Dinky
19th February 2004, 16:56
My XPerience guide with VObedit IfoEdit(v0.96) and srt2sup (update: and subremap)
DVD is much more interesting and complicated than I thought. So these are my practises to learn more about it.
(thanks to this good forum )
I bought a dvd-burner and i got a dvd of "finding Nemo" (region 1),allready fitted to 5dvd.
With smartripper I made a copy to my hardisk-directory FN_ORG
With Vobedit I demux all video, subtitles and audiostreams of the main movie (i.c. vts_01) to directory FN_WORK.
I got this:
VTS_01_0.m2v - 3.318.572 kB main movie
VTS_01_0.80.ac3 - 329.942 kB main audiostream
VTS_01_0.81.ac3 - 141.404 kB directors comment ?
VTS_01_0.20.sup - 5.329 kB english sub
VTS_01_0.21.sup - 4.191 kB french sub
VTS_01_0.22.sup - 4.017 kB spanish sub
Open IfoEdit ,select open-button and select VTS_01_0.ifo in FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Menu Tools->SaveCelltimes to File
saves cell-times.txt to FN_WORK
Close IfoEdit
My goal was to insert another subtitle, which would not be selectable from within the menu but with the remote-button of the dvd-player.
On the net I found "finding nemo.xvid.srt"
Open Srt2sup
global settings
ScreenFormat NTSC (although I have Pal, the movie is NTSC).
colorsettings: BG=Black, Outline=Blue, Text=white and AntiAlias = Gray
Black set to transparant
font: Tomaho 20
I dis-selected autowrap
menu->SRT File->open as text "finding nemo.xvid.srt"
menu->SUP File->Save "VTS_01.0.23.sup"
Close Srt2sup
Open IfoEdit:
Menu->DVD-Author->New DVD
video -> select FN_WORK/ VTS_01_0.m2v
audio -> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.80.ac3 main audiostream
select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.81.ac3 directors comment ?
subpicture -> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.20.sup english sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.21.sup french sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.22.sup spanish sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.23.sup my brothers lanquage
chapters -> select FN_WORK/celltimes.txt
at audio I select the languages: both english
at subpictures I select for each language the correct country (Eng, Fr, Es,Mine)
no delay time.
Then click OK and wait:
In your working directory you get also:
VTS_01_1.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_2.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_3.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_4.VOB 750.164
VTS_01_1.IFO 98
VTS_01_1.BUP 98
VIDEO_TS.IFO you dont need it
VIDEO_TS.BUP you dont need it
All these files(except het last 2) I copied to a new dvddirectory FNNEW/VIDEO_TS
Because I want to hold the menustructure I also copied to that directory:
FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS.IFO
FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS.BUP
FN_ORG/VTS_01.0.VOB 500.498kB (Menus)
FN_ORG/VTS_02.0.VOB intro Pixar etc.
FN_ORG/VTS_02.1.VOB
FN_ORG/VTS_02_0.IFO
FN_ORG/VTS_03_0.BUP
Open IfoEdit:
select OpenButton: FN_ORG/VTS_1_0.IFO
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Mnu Tools->SUbtitle Color -> Copy form this PCG
select openButton: FNNEW/VIDEO_TS/VTS_1_0.IFO
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Mnu Tools->SUbtitle Color -> Past into this PCG
(My colors didnot work so i changed them later on manualy:
in VTS_PGC_1:
color 0: 10.80.80
color 1: 10.80.80
color 2: eb.80.80
color 3: d7.80.80
The original subs are now gray with a white outline, my own sub is beatiful white with a black outline)
(see below:update 1 - using remap)
To keep the menu's :
menu->merge menutables : FN_ORG/VTS_1_0.IFO
select the savebutton.
GOTO VTSI_MAT (in the upper window)
set (in the lower window)
number audiostreams in VTSM to 1
number subpictures streams in VTSM to 1
push the savebutton again.
So far , so good
(i only had some problems with the sub colors, but no sync problems)
BUT.....
The lenght of the movie changed from 1.40.27.06 to 1.20.22.06
The subs are on the right moments - all of them, but in the new VOB there are just 25 chapters instead of 32.
chapter 25 is the end.
The audio and subs are in sync, no problem and audio isn't higher of pitch.(like playing to fast).
What happend and how could I fix it?
I presumed it depends on the pal/ntsc rate,
but i couldnot find any setting to change in VOBEDit nore IfoEdit.
Then i decided to manual change the celltimes.txt with the ratio 80*60+22,06/100*60+27,06 (=movielenghts in seconds)
That was much better (maybe 25/29,97 is even better, but I decided to take te lenght of the film as a reference).
So I went through the whole process again.
Then I closed IfoEdit and opened it again, openend my VTS_01_0.info and did get VTS sectors
(don't know exactly why you have to use this, but I was told to do it in een new started IFOEdit window).
Everything went fine, but the chapterselections still didnot work.
The Program table command was empty and I put there the commands of the original VTS_01_0.IFO.
add pre command and fill in the hex.
Then it worked fine, even in my dvd-player.
Update 1:
movie not in vts_01_1.vob
I tried another movie, the main movie was in vts_04_1.vob
When to re-author the new VOB with ifoedit, the outcom were vts_01_1.vob, vts_01_2.vob en vts_01_0.ifo etc.
Before you move the files to the new directory, you have to rename them to the orginal numbers, i.c. vts_04.01.vob etc and vts_04_0.ifo
You also need to merge the menu from the orginal vts_04_0.ifo
You will notice I am a newbie. Transforming the menutable was not recommanded. Scene selection was available wihout, and after I tranfered the orginal commands, the main movie didnot play, it said it was the wrong region. (Strange because it was for all the regions).
I don't know what happened, but I like to learn, so I will find out or hear from you.
using subremap:
I still got problems with the colors of the orinal subs and my own subs. Using subremap, solved that problem.
With that program you can change the settings of your new sup-file, according to the original settings.
after changing and re-author, you can copy and past color as I discribe above and you don't need to set the colors manual.
The result is a subtitle in orginal colors and a subtitle of my own in the colors I like.
:D
DVD is much more interesting and complicated than I thought. So these are my practises to learn more about it.
(thanks to this good forum )
I bought a dvd-burner and i got a dvd of "finding Nemo" (region 1),allready fitted to 5dvd.
With smartripper I made a copy to my hardisk-directory FN_ORG
With Vobedit I demux all video, subtitles and audiostreams of the main movie (i.c. vts_01) to directory FN_WORK.
I got this:
VTS_01_0.m2v - 3.318.572 kB main movie
VTS_01_0.80.ac3 - 329.942 kB main audiostream
VTS_01_0.81.ac3 - 141.404 kB directors comment ?
VTS_01_0.20.sup - 5.329 kB english sub
VTS_01_0.21.sup - 4.191 kB french sub
VTS_01_0.22.sup - 4.017 kB spanish sub
Open IfoEdit ,select open-button and select VTS_01_0.ifo in FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Menu Tools->SaveCelltimes to File
saves cell-times.txt to FN_WORK
Close IfoEdit
My goal was to insert another subtitle, which would not be selectable from within the menu but with the remote-button of the dvd-player.
On the net I found "finding nemo.xvid.srt"
Open Srt2sup
global settings
ScreenFormat NTSC (although I have Pal, the movie is NTSC).
colorsettings: BG=Black, Outline=Blue, Text=white and AntiAlias = Gray
Black set to transparant
font: Tomaho 20
I dis-selected autowrap
menu->SRT File->open as text "finding nemo.xvid.srt"
menu->SUP File->Save "VTS_01.0.23.sup"
Close Srt2sup
Open IfoEdit:
Menu->DVD-Author->New DVD
video -> select FN_WORK/ VTS_01_0.m2v
audio -> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.80.ac3 main audiostream
select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.81.ac3 directors comment ?
subpicture -> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.20.sup english sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.21.sup french sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.22.sup spanish sub
-> select FN_WORK/VTS_01_0.23.sup my brothers lanquage
chapters -> select FN_WORK/celltimes.txt
at audio I select the languages: both english
at subpictures I select for each language the correct country (Eng, Fr, Es,Mine)
no delay time.
Then click OK and wait:
In your working directory you get also:
VTS_01_1.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_2.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_3.VOB 1.048.574
VTS_01_4.VOB 750.164
VTS_01_1.IFO 98
VTS_01_1.BUP 98
VIDEO_TS.IFO you dont need it
VIDEO_TS.BUP you dont need it
All these files(except het last 2) I copied to a new dvddirectory FNNEW/VIDEO_TS
Because I want to hold the menustructure I also copied to that directory:
FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS.IFO
FN_ORG/VIDEO_TS.BUP
FN_ORG/VTS_01.0.VOB 500.498kB (Menus)
FN_ORG/VTS_02.0.VOB intro Pixar etc.
FN_ORG/VTS_02.1.VOB
FN_ORG/VTS_02_0.IFO
FN_ORG/VTS_03_0.BUP
Open IfoEdit:
select OpenButton: FN_ORG/VTS_1_0.IFO
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Mnu Tools->SUbtitle Color -> Copy form this PCG
select openButton: FNNEW/VIDEO_TS/VTS_1_0.IFO
doubleclick VTS _PGCITI and then select VTS_PGC_1
Mnu Tools->SUbtitle Color -> Past into this PCG
(My colors didnot work so i changed them later on manualy:
in VTS_PGC_1:
color 0: 10.80.80
color 1: 10.80.80
color 2: eb.80.80
color 3: d7.80.80
The original subs are now gray with a white outline, my own sub is beatiful white with a black outline)
(see below:update 1 - using remap)
To keep the menu's :
menu->merge menutables : FN_ORG/VTS_1_0.IFO
select the savebutton.
GOTO VTSI_MAT (in the upper window)
set (in the lower window)
number audiostreams in VTSM to 1
number subpictures streams in VTSM to 1
push the savebutton again.
So far , so good
(i only had some problems with the sub colors, but no sync problems)
BUT.....
The lenght of the movie changed from 1.40.27.06 to 1.20.22.06
The subs are on the right moments - all of them, but in the new VOB there are just 25 chapters instead of 32.
chapter 25 is the end.
The audio and subs are in sync, no problem and audio isn't higher of pitch.(like playing to fast).
What happend and how could I fix it?
I presumed it depends on the pal/ntsc rate,
but i couldnot find any setting to change in VOBEDit nore IfoEdit.
Then i decided to manual change the celltimes.txt with the ratio 80*60+22,06/100*60+27,06 (=movielenghts in seconds)
That was much better (maybe 25/29,97 is even better, but I decided to take te lenght of the film as a reference).
So I went through the whole process again.
Then I closed IfoEdit and opened it again, openend my VTS_01_0.info and did get VTS sectors
(don't know exactly why you have to use this, but I was told to do it in een new started IFOEdit window).
Everything went fine, but the chapterselections still didnot work.
The Program table command was empty and I put there the commands of the original VTS_01_0.IFO.
add pre command and fill in the hex.
Then it worked fine, even in my dvd-player.
Update 1:
movie not in vts_01_1.vob
I tried another movie, the main movie was in vts_04_1.vob
When to re-author the new VOB with ifoedit, the outcom were vts_01_1.vob, vts_01_2.vob en vts_01_0.ifo etc.
Before you move the files to the new directory, you have to rename them to the orginal numbers, i.c. vts_04.01.vob etc and vts_04_0.ifo
You also need to merge the menu from the orginal vts_04_0.ifo
You will notice I am a newbie. Transforming the menutable was not recommanded. Scene selection was available wihout, and after I tranfered the orginal commands, the main movie didnot play, it said it was the wrong region. (Strange because it was for all the regions).
I don't know what happened, but I like to learn, so I will find out or hear from you.
using subremap:
I still got problems with the colors of the orinal subs and my own subs. Using subremap, solved that problem.
With that program you can change the settings of your new sup-file, according to the original settings.
after changing and re-author, you can copy and past color as I discribe above and you don't need to set the colors manual.
The result is a subtitle in orginal colors and a subtitle of my own in the colors I like.
:D