AVI to VCD problem

[djpw]

I am new to this - so apologies if obvious but I have read the Q&As and can't see anything directly related.

I have an AVI on the computer which I'm burning to VCD in Nero using CUE and BIN files taken from DVD2VCD. I use the process recommended on the doom9.org website.

Everything appears to work fine (no errors I can see during the process - it plays on my computer) until I play the VCD on my DVD player. It doesn't work.

Basically, every 4th frame is fine, but the 3 intervening frames are displayed incorrectly with only the top half of the screen displayed very unclearly with washed colouring.

My DVD player plays VCDs (I own a couple).

Working off a few of the Q&As which seem a little bit related, I've tried a couple of different options (NTSC to PAL, putting in a 2 second offset at the start of the movie, and burning it at the slowest possible speed) but appear to get the same results each time.

Apologies by the way if this is in the wrong forum - I'm not really sure whether this a burning problem or a DVD2VCD problem .... :confused:
Can anyone advise what I'm doing wrong?

Log file below:

WNASPI32.DLL 0.0.0.0
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- 11/01/2004 18:18:10
- AVI to SVCD Conversion
- AVI2VCD ver. 1.2.1 build 3
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Initializing
- C:\DVD\Extract\Extract.avi
Initializing finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:18:13
- Free on drive C: 11151.10 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Audio extraction finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:18:15
- Free on drive C: 11151.10 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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- 11/01/2004 18:18:17
- Free on drive C: 11151.10 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Converting MP2 to WAV. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Executing MADPlay (mp2 to wav). Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\MADPlay\madplay.exe" --quiet --output=wave:"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2.wav" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.mpa"
Conversion (mp2 to wav) of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.mpa finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.mpa
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2.wav" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max ) -shibatch( --rate 48000 ) -2lame( -e -b 224 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.mpa finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:18:59
- Free on drive C: 11151.29 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding C:\DVD\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 771186864
AudioSectors: 8656900
VideoPAPO: 11811996
ScanOffsetBytes: 0
SeqAligningBytes: 0
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 750717964.00
Seconds: 305.01
CalcMPEGStream: 750717964.00
Frames: 7193
CDSize: 740.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 735.00
Using CQ Value: 80.00
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc-2.521.58.169-Free\TMPGEnc.exe" "C:\DVD\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:52:23
- Free on drive C: 11162.95 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/01/2004 18:52:25
- Free on drive C: 11162.94 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/01/2004 18:52:28
- Free on drive C: 11162.94 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 11/01/2004 18:52:31
- Free on drive C: 11162.94 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 735 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:52:49
- Free on drive C: 11112.29 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
300.921 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:52:58
- Free on drive C: 11112.29 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 5

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\DVD\FINDIN~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\DVD\FINDIN~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\DVD\FINDIN~1\VCDXBU~1.XML"
Image creation finished.

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- 11/01/2004 18:53:08
- Free on drive C: 11112.54 mb
- Conversion done!
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[Nick]

Hi. Welcome to the forum.
:goodpost: for a first timer!

The logfile you posted looks OK and if the result plays on your PC it probably is OK. My first suspicion is a burning problem.

Try the method detailed in Q61 in the Q+A (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21859) and let us know if it helps.

Cheers
Nick

[djpw]

Thanks for the advice.
Cool tool! :thanks:
Unfortunately I got the same result. :confused:
As before it works fine on the computer - in this case both the virtual and the actual CD - but as before when I transfer to the DVD player only 1 in every 4 frames displays correctly.
P

[Trahald]

you mentioned you have vcds, are they real vcds (meaning pressed origionals not copies) reason i ask is , your player may be having a hard time with cdrs. what model player do you have. check it against the vcdhelp.com dvd player list (check if it plays cdr vcds). also download one of their free vcd-image examples and see how they play burned onto cdr. just some suggestions

[djpw]

Thanks. Yes they are real - or at least I bought them. I have checked the site you mention - but haven't tried downloading the tests.
Thanks again.

[djpw]

I'd have almost been happier if the test material on vcdhelp hadn't worked. Unfortunately it worked fine. I guess this means that at least I can do it as long as I have the right input....
Do I just give up on the AVI I have?

[djpw]

Have now tried it with another AVI from another source completely - and the same thing happened.
Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?