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unimatrixzer0
14th February 2004, 00:13
I just got a WinTV-PVR-250 and tried to capture with vdub. Is there a reason it won't work with virtualdub? I see the card listed but it keeps telling me something else is using the card but I don't have anything else open.

jggimi
14th February 2004, 00:20
See the driver discussions in Q14 and Q22 in the FAQ. Hopefully, that will solve your problem.

unimatrixzer0
14th February 2004, 00:21
Originally posted by jggimi
See the driver discussions in Q14 and Q22 in the FAQ. Hopefully, that will solve your problem.

I will, thanks for the reply.

unimatrixzer0
14th February 2004, 00:25
- vfwupd.exe
- dx80bda.exe
- wdm-vfw-wrapper

Which of those would you recommend for my card?

jggimi
14th February 2004, 00:37
I don't know your card. My capture PC runs WME, has a BT878A chipset, and I use the BTWinCap driver at the moment.

Why not try one or two, and see if you can get them to work?

unimatrixzer0
14th February 2004, 03:20
Card is more trouble than its worth. Guess I'll just be sending it back. I already have an AIW 9800 but someone kept telling me this card was significantly better but it actually ended up making my video looks worse. On top of that I can't even capture in in vdub.

I don't see why it wouldn't open in vdub. ATI uses WDM drivers doesn't it? I see them in its download page thing, so why wouldn't this card load in vdub if it uses WDM drivers as well? Oh well. =/

Kb_cruncher
14th February 2004, 13:56
your card uses hardware Mpeg2 compression and not software compression like most tvcards so you proberbly can't capture avi with it hense not working with vdub.
Its a relativly expensive card too compared to most and does have a great reputation so i would at least have a bit more of a play with it before giving it up.

Plus if you have an XCard, Jove Player can use it nativley to capture with and play it back with progressive scan(NICE:D )all with the XCard remote.

If you still want to get rid of it i'll take it off your hands(they cost around $325US in my country).;) I'm serious, i'll send you a cheque in the currency of your choice for whatever you payed for it plus post to my country(it would still be much cheaper than me buying one here as you can see below)

http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=119649

http://www.hauppauge.com/html/wintvpvr250_datasheet.htm

alky
18th February 2004, 14:51
Originally posted by unimatrixzer0
Card is more trouble than its worth. Guess I'll just be sending it back. I already have an AIW 9800 but someone kept telling me this card was significantly better but it actually ended up making my video looks worse. On top of that I can't even capture in in vdub.

I don't see why it wouldn't open in vdub. ATI uses WDM drivers doesn't it? I see them in its download page thing, so why wouldn't this card load in vdub if it uses WDM drivers as well? Oh well. =/

omg do you ever inform yourself about a product before you buy something !?

the one reason one would buy a hauppauge pvr card is the hardware mpeg2 encoder. fullscreen mpeg2 capturing with zero cpu load (except load for capturing application and harddsic writing). also every faq about this card (even on hauppauges website) says that it does not support third party products:

http://www.hauppauge.com/html/pvr250faq.htm

"Third party capture applications not supported:

The WinTV PVR 250/350 records directly to MPEG using onboard Hardware encoders. Most third party capture applications are looking to attach to a card or driver that supports uncompressed video recordings. Like AVI files. These programs cannot capture video directly using the PVR250/350."

if you dont want what you buy, better send me the money you ve got to waste next time :P

Boulder
20th February 2004, 21:05
I suggest you check out www.shspvr.com and the forum there. WinTVCap is an excellent program for capturing with the PVR-250.

rfmmars
22nd February 2004, 08:20
You can capture excellent video with ATI 9800, and you can capture in VD if you want, if you install the VDF to WDM wrapper, but you can with the ATI capture software capture full 720x480 29.97 fps at 15,000 bps compared to 6000 fps using VD and Xvid codecs.

There is no reason that to the normal eye you van't match DVD quality with the ATI AIW cards, even with the 7500 PCI model.

Richard
photorecall.net

gotaserena
11th March 2004, 14:45
Like someone said above, this is THE card if you want ZERO drop frames regardless of the system you use, no A/V synch problems and the ability of burning an all-compatible DVD just 15mins after the recording (assuming you want to edit out the commercials).

It is not the best way to capture to mpeg-4, though. I used to do this a lot when I tried to compress 4 hours of shows into a single DVD, but I wouldn't recommend it. If you want that ability, look for a hardware MPEG-4 encoder, or use software (i.e., buy a card that can output raw video.)

The directshow filter of the Hauppauge outputs MPEG-2 video and MPEG-1 layer II audio, there is no easy way to access the raw data, and Hauppauge is not disclosing the card's SDK. So the prospective of someone hacking into the Hauppauge chip and writing another filter that can output raw video and audio is slim.