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george_zhu
26th January 2004, 20:24
Is there any options about this decoder? I cannot find a program of it.

BTW: Whether it is better than ffdshow? Both Xvid(1beta3 with qPel and GMC) and DivX(5.1.1 no qPel and GMC) files have huge blocks when they are played by ffdshow. But they works fine with windows media player 9.0 (with xvid's/DivX's own decoder). What is the best decoder for xvid?

Koepi
26th January 2004, 21:25
Currently ffdshow has issues with XviD decoding (due to lacking support for packed bitstream bframes >1).

If you'd read up a little instead of just wildly posting (forum rules violation!), you'd noticed that as this has been mentioned close to hundred times now.

So XviD is the best decoder for XviD currently.

Decoder options can be set either through the vfw interface (in vdub) or through the dshow interface. Since you are using the worst player ever (WMP9), you can't access dshow filter properties. Use WMP6.4 (called mplayer2 in your c:\Program files\Mediaplayer\ directory) and right click on the video window and try "options" or "properties". You'll be amazed.

Koepi

george_zhu
26th January 2004, 22:26
Well. Thanks.

However, I think I do read a lot of things related. The point for me (and maybe lots of other newbie) is that it is kind of hard to figure out those professional words and what my problem really is. And to make things worse, xvid changes very fast and lots of out-of-date information mixes with the correct ones in this forum. For example, I did read some stikys here which said ffdshow is the availbe good decoder.

Anyway, thanks for all your help. I found this forum is especially helpful.

george_zhu
27th January 2004, 01:43
Well. WMP6.4 seems to play more smoothly although I feel WM9 plays also pretty smoothly. I guess that is because my computer is relatively quick (AMD 2000+ with 512M DDR2100).

However, I did not find options for xvid video. I guess that is something like "dering" or "de-block", isn't it? I only see a "hardware acceleration" is a little alike. Do I see the right thing?

Originally posted by Koepi
Currently ffdshow has issues with XviD decoding (due to lacking support for packed bitstream bframes >1).

If you'd read up a little instead of just wildly posting (forum rules violation!), you'd noticed that as this has been mentioned close to hundred times now.

So XviD is the best decoder for XviD currently.

Decoder options can be set either through the vfw interface (in vdub) or through the dshow interface. Since you are using the worst player ever (WMP9), you can't access dshow filter properties. Use WMP6.4 (called mplayer2 in your c:\Program files\Mediaplayer\ directory) and right click on the video window and try "options" or "properties". You'll be amazed.

Koepi

JimmyBarnes
27th January 2004, 12:01
Originally posted by Koepi
Currently ffdshow has issues with XviD decoding (due to lacking support for packed bitstream bframes >1).

So XviD is the best decoder for XviD currently.

Which XviD, yours, Nic's or uManiac's?

@george_zhu (best XviD decoder): As the XviD FAQ states


8. What filter should I use to play back XviD encoded videos?

The two main filters of choice are:
Nic's XviD DShow Filter ( http://nic.dnsalias.com )
or
Milan's FFDShow ( http://sourceforge.net/project/show...?group_id=53761 )
(As a general rule, get the latest version, even if it is alpha)

Although FFDShow has more options, it is not based on the XviD project and may contain incompatibilities from time to time. It is advised to try both and see what works best for you.

I sympathise with George's question. XviD decoding on different PC can be a problem - I find I have to juggle XviD decoders from time to time to get a particular XviD to play on a particular one of my 3 PCs. No one decoder seems to be universally satisfactory. I don't encode in XviD, and only download AVIs which I cannot get by other means - sometimes these are in XviD.

JB

sysKin
27th January 2004, 12:08
Imho FAQ should be deleted until we make a new one.

yaz
27th January 2004, 13:09
Originally posted by sysKin
Imho FAQ should be deleted until we make a new one.
imho, the faq is ok for the devapi3 branch (which is still in heavy use, afais!) the same for the newbie setting sticky. i think they are pretty good, but it should be clarified that they relate to sg running outdate.
a typical example is ffdshow. it is a good decoder for the devapi3 stuffs but i wouldn't recommend it for devapi4. the b-frame business, mentioned by koepi, is a major issue, but there are some other.
say, i spent weeks for chasing down some ugly artifacts in my devapi4 encodes which had been turned out to be generated by ffdshow. yesterday night i played a bit with the new(?) decoder coming with niltze. with some settings (vertical deblock + forced rgb output) i was able to reproduce that weirdy artifacting. that's why a think, there is sg fishy about the colorspace handling in ffdshow, too.

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