TMPGenc & Widescreen problems

[xeen]

I'm trying to convert a DVD to VCD using DVD2AVI and TMPGenc. The movie widescreen. When I open it in DVD2AVI it has the black bars but its still vertically stretched (the bars should be bigger), and so the picture comes out wrong. I see no settings in DVD2AVI to correct this so I'm just moving on TMPGenc.

In TMPGenc I open the project file made by DVD2AVI. For the source I select 16:9 525-line NTSC. For video arrange method, I select Full Screen (Keep aspect ratio 2), although I've tried all the other ones too. I also unlock the output aspect ratio box and select 16:9. Yet the output is still stretched for some reason and comes out wrong.

Can someone help please?

[Kika]

You have an anamorphic Video, what do you need as Targed? Letterboxed or anamorphic? Your Settings are for anmorphic -> anamorphic Video.
If you are not doing any Resizing, select Center instead of Full Screen.

[xeen]

Whats the difference between widescreen and anamorphic?
Which Center should I select? Theres 3 of them.
Also do you think maybe the problem is coming from DVD2AVI, since it shows the picture wrong as soon as it opens up the VOB files?

[Kika]

Anamorphic Video is verticaly stretched. ;)



Which Center should I select? Theres 3 of them.

Yeah, and one of them is called simply Center - like i wrote.

And no, it's not a problem. DVD2AVI shows you the Video as is - the Source IS verticaly stretched, it is an anamorphic Video.

For DVD, you can it encode this Style, no Problem.

[xeen]

I dont understand. When I play the video in PowerDVD it displays it fine. But when I open it in DVD2AVI you its stretched. What you're saying is that it SHOULD be stretched?? It doesnt look right that way. I want it to come out the same way it plays in the DVD player, not stretched out so that it looks wierd. Sorry I'm a bit confused by all this.

[Kika]

Anamorphic Video is a Trick to get a better Video-Quality for Widescreen-Movies.
If it is encodet the right Way (in 16:9-Mode), your DVD-Player will show you the correkt Aspect Ratio = not stretched.
DVD2AVI just shows you the Picture as is, it does no AR-Correktion, PowerDVD will show it the right Way.

Just do a research on Doom9 (the Board and the Guides) about anamorphic Video. Very interesting stuff. ;)

[cweb]

My favourite solution for this problem is:

I cut the black bars using my avisynth script (using Crop)
Then I do filtering as usual and at the end of my script before converting to RGB24, I add black bars (just enough for my TV so I don't lose any details to the overscan border).
I should note I have a widescreen tv, so the result fills the tv quite well and looks great which is what counts.

Edit: I always check the bars using Virtualdubmod before I do the KVCD encode using Tmpgenc Plus with avisynth.