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Sirber
20th January 2004, 14:42
Hi

Using the same settings:

RV10+cook = all FPS
RV10+he-aac = constant dropped frames

all while encoding... :confused:

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renamed the title...

karl_lillevold
20th January 2004, 16:34
I think what you are seeing is a playback problem in MPC, which will be fixed in the next release. Encoding should be OK, it never drops any frames due to CPU scaling for file-to-file encodes. With corrected DLLs in RP10 (not yet available, will let you know) the file should also play back fine. Here is what Gabest wrote when I reported this:


With the current release out the audio renderer only receives the first
frame per packet with the right timestamp, you have to wait the next one to
play he-aac smooth. The problem was that I didn't notice that he-aac frames
contian twice the number of samples, and using the same formula the
timestamps of intermediate frames became wrong.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Lillevold"
To: gabest
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 7:58 PM
Subject: RV10 + HE-AAC = unsmooth video


> Hello, Gabest
>
> For the first time I was trying out the combination RV10 + HE-AAC, as
> encoded by Sirber's RealAnime, and immediately noticed a strange
> playback problem in MPC 6.4.7.5. The video with raac plays back very
> "unsmooth", both with raac and coreAAC, compared to the one with RA8.
> It seems to display all the frames, but the framerate does not appear
> to be very smooth. Stats even show higher jitter than the file with
> RA8. The file plays fine in RP10 (with fixed raac.dll)
>
> http://www.lillevold.com/files/a_raac.rmvb (64 kbps HE-AAC)
> http://www.lillevold.com/files/a.rmvb (44 kbps RA8)

Sirber
20th January 2004, 18:15
Looks like the same problem. Same thing on BSPlayer.

Sirber
25th January 2004, 04:16
Gabest said the bug was corrected, but I can't find any new build. 6.4.7.5 is still buggy.

bond
25th January 2004, 18:40
try using "overlay mixer"

Sirber
25th January 2004, 18:44
It's a bug with the splitter, not the renderer :)

bond
25th January 2004, 19:16
well i always get frame dropping when not using overlay mixer, i guess the reason is my 866 cpu

Sirber
25th January 2004, 20:02
might be the CPU :D

Sirber
25th January 2004, 20:38
RMVB problem fixed with lastest splitter from gabest :D
dunno for MKV...

haibane
27th January 2004, 03:30
I just tried the new mpc version....
the he-aac + rv9ehq playback is perfect......
Is there any way to use he-acc with less than 64k bitrate?
Will lower bitrate be added in the future?

Sirber
27th January 2004, 12:37
not at the moment, maybe later. Since HE-AAC is not an oficial Real codec, who knows :)

bond
27th January 2004, 20:53
Originally posted by haibane
Is there any way to use he-acc with less than 64k bitrate?of course, simply use neros he-aac codec

haibane
27th January 2004, 22:51
Originally posted by bond
of course, simply use neros he-aac codec
I mean in the rmvb container......
everyone knows how to play a rmvb extension file but not everyone knows how to play a mkv extension file.......
will there be a tool such that it will mux matroska content or anyother content in to an rmvb container........

Sirber
27th January 2004, 23:42
IIRC, there is no external muxer for rmvb.

Dark-Cracker
29th January 2004, 17:55
hum there is an rmvb muxer :) just wait and see :)