Question about passes

[Xirtam G]

I want to convert my stargate dvds to dvd5, Now as im sure you know the quality of tv episode discs is usally pretty poor, So should i do alot of passes (9) or will that make the video look worse?

[Grover]

Try it and see for yourself (DVD-RW...) Maybe just select one episode for encoding (so you don't have wait for your PC to run 9 passes over the whole disc which could take a while...)

More passes shouldn't make it (quality of re-encoded video) worse.

But you probably need some serious A/V equipment to tell any noticable difference/benifit from doing 3-5 passes as opposed to 9 passes.

Depends alot on the quality of the original source. I have jsut finished backing up Farscape Season 2 and used 1 pass on CCE and it looks fantastic. Whereas for Sopranos Season 4 I used tried 1 pass but was not happy and did them at 3 passes.

Good Luck...

[jarvis1781]

Originally posted by Xirtam G
I want to convert my stargate dvds to dvd5, Now as im sure you know the quality of tv episode discs is usally pretty poor, So should i do alot of passes (9) or will that make the video look worse? Dude. are you serious? 9 passes is NEVER needed. anything beyond 3 has a negligible effect on the final product

[Chubmeister]

Sounds like you've just started to venture into to the realm of re-encoding - welcome!

Believe me, the number of passes will be insignificant when you come to doing episodic disks, they change their construction on every damn series!

Best to set DoIF4U up as described in doom9 guides, leave as much to the suggested default settings as possible which should leave you with 5 passes for extras and 3 for main movie.

There are quite a few posts on stargate alone...just keep checking these forums for help.

All the best

Chubs

[Grover]

Originally posted by Chubmeister

Believe me, the number of passes will be insignificant when you come to doing episodic disks, they change their construction on every damn series!


Agree that the same series can change from season to season. A recent one for me was Farscape S1 which was done by one company and S2 and S3 by different production company and the structure and layouts were quite different between the two.

Can't agree that the number of passes is insignificant. Some Ep DVD's will be quite happy with 1-2 pass whereas others will need more. If you meant that final quality improvment in anything over 4-5 passes is insignificant then I agree (at least in my experience). A while ago I backed up Godfather Part 1 using 4 passes in CCE and then again using 8 passes just for the heck of it to see what it would do. 8 was waste of time IMHO.

Cheers...

[OvERaCiD23]

Having only done one disc of episodes, my experience is limited in that specific area. However, with full feature movies, 4-5 is the way to go. I can't imagine anything over 5 passes necessary for any material, especially with such an excellent encoder as CCE. Like stated earlier, try the different passes (3/4/5) and see when the quality is acceptable; if that is too demanding (considering how the quality does in fact change over collections), do 5 passes on each and call it done. If 5 passes doesn't provide the right quality, simply use the original instead or break it up to more discs.

[Xirtam G]

Er not a total noob, so far i have done 1 dvd using dif4u,dcce4e&reauthorist.

okay maybe i am a noob:rolleyes:

Anyway I have pasued my episode discs for now.

Im doing the back to the future triogy at the moment.

Doing the 2nd film @ 4743 3 pass, Thats a good bitrate isnt it? I did lotr at just under 3000 with 5 passes and it looked great.

also rencoded the menus with numenu4u, So i am lerning anyway!

just a few questions.

1.Can i run numenu4u&dif4u, then take a break use the computer for other things, then load reauthroist, and pick the "rip" folder to where dif4u exported its files and contuine as normal?

2.I saw CCE 2.60 at a computer fair a few days ago, At the moment I have 2.50, is it worth updating? is dcce4u compatible with the new version?

Thanks for your help:)(sorry for any typos:mad:)

[Chubmeister]

If you're managing to encode something at 4743 then you could probably have done a straight rip without the need for the big 3, that's probably about the quality of the original. So long as the main movie is over 2500 then the copy will be perfectly acceptable, of course, it depends on the original source though and length of movie.

I would stick with CCE 2.50, if it ain't broken, don't fix it! It can get difficult enough without introducing more potential errors, certain versions of CCE can be fickle!

Don't let us put you off episodic disks, most are fine, it's that some can be real nasty, get back on it straight away!

As far as ReAuthorist, sorry mate, don't use it, it only takes a few mins to set up Scenarist manually, you'll learn more and it will show errors up before you get to compiling.

[Xirtam G]

Nah it is a dvd9 disc, and i like menus etc I just ripped the DTS channel(at least i hope it was the dts...) And i'm down sampling some of the extra VTS sets as well.

The film lasts 01:43:36:13, so its short.

[Xirtam G]

okay, just watched it, it looks amazing.

Only problem is it's a bit blocky when he jumps off the hover board in to the warter, the water ripples look funny.

[Djuby]

Same problem here with Big 3 and Stargare series DVDs. I have tried almost everything and can't get the playback to be as smooth as the original. Whenever there is a camara movement through the scene there is something like skipping frames. Still can't figure out what's wrong. I am following the Doom9's guide. Any ideas will be greately appreciated.

[hendrix]

"I have tried almost everything and can't get the playback to be as smooth as the original."

hmmm...sounds to me to be a hybrid, progressive and interlaced intermixed...ive produced some documentaries in the past and intermixed progressive material with interlaced...

you may want to try demuxing by Vob ID

[Djuby]

Are there any specific settings that I have to change except demuxing by VOB ID?

[hendrix]

Originally posted by Djuby
Are there any specific settings that I have to change except demuxing by VOB ID?

no

for progressive parts it doesn't matter what field first you choose because progressive footage uses whole frames and not fields

personally i dont deinterlace, but its your choice