DoItFast4U "Field Order could not..."

[Fresh T.]

I'm trying to backup Austin Powers Goldmember. It's a PAL DVD and while using DIF4U 1.4.0.0, it gives me the following error: "Field Order could not be determined! Maximun tries reached." In Global Options/Other Options i've checked Header Flags. Checking Frames Diagnosis results in the same error. Checking Off results in having no .d2v files so there isn't a .avs script created. Where does it go wrong?

[Eyes`Only]

that doesnt make any sense. There's always a .d2v file...

[Fresh T.]

Not here for some reason... Using the "Off" selection it says: "No D2V files found! Aborting this VTS." This happens after step 2: Creating DVD2AVI Projects. The problem occurs only in VTS 3.

[Eyes`Only]

send me your log file plz

[Fresh T.]

Here's a full copy of the log file. This is with the "Off" selection enabled:
(14:04:07) Current settings saved as default
(14:04:23) Welcome to DoItFast4U! v.1.4.0.0 - By Eyes`Only
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(14:04:23) Avisynth Version Detected= 2.5.2.0
(14:04:23) Checking AVS Scripts...
(14:04:23) OS Kernel = NT (good!)
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(14:04:23) Checking for CDROM/DVDROMS... Found Drives= E: F: G:
(14:04:23) Non-Right-click activation. Using last working directory: d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember\
(14:04:23) (If you don't know what this means, READ THE GUIDE!)
(14:04:23) Checking for Angles in VTS 01...
(14:04:23) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--32 Number of Cells= 2
(14:04:23) VTS 1 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--486 Number of Cells= 1
(14:04:23) VTS 1 PGC 2 Minutes= 1
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--776 Number of Cells= 3
(14:04:23) VTS 1 PGC 3 Minutes= 1
(14:04:23) Checking for Angles in VTS 02...
(14:04:23) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--24 Number of Cells= 18
(14:04:23) VTS 2 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--1062 Number of Cells= 1
(14:04:23) VTS 2 PGC 2 Minutes= 91
(14:04:23) Checking for Angles in VTS 03...
(14:04:23) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--32 Number of Cells= 1
(14:04:23) VTS 3 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--354 Number of Cells= 1
(14:04:23) VTS 3 PGC 2 Minutes= 3
(14:04:23) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--676 Number of Cells= 1
(14:04:23) VTS 3 PGC 3 Minutes= 2
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(14:04:23) Checking for updates...
(14:04:23) Updates Check Skipped ( Help->Check For Updates to turn this on )
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(14:04:23) Install Directory = C:\Program Files\DoItFast4U
(14:04:23) Current Directory = d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember
(14:04:23) Checking For Duplicate VobIDs...
(14:04:23) Checking For Duplicate VobIDs...
(14:04:23) No Duplicate VobIDs Found.
(14:04:23) Automatically selected 2 as largest VTS.
(14:04:45) Skipping VTS 1
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(14:04:45) Current Dir= d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember
(14:04:45) DVD Drive= G:
(14:04:45) Autocreating Directory
(14:04:45) DVD Drive= G:
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(14:04:45) DVDDEC Version 3.1.9.0 Location= C:\Program Files\DVD Decrypter
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(14:04:45) Newer version of DVDDec detected (3.1.9.0)
(14:04:45) Split Mode= auto VobID_Demux=0 CellID_Demux=0
(14:04:45) Using DVD Decrypter to Demux VTS 03 PGC 01 ANGLE 01
(14:04:49) Finished Processing VTS 03 PGC 01 ANGLE 01
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(14:04:49) Skipping Field Diagnosis by User Request
(14:04:49) File to rename= \ÑD
(14:04:49) vid= 0, pgc= , ang= , vob= , cel= darloc= 4~3
(14:04:49) Rename to= VTS__03_P.4~3.M2V
(14:04:49) renerr= 2 vobid= 0 sub= 0 y= 1
(14:04:49) Using DVD Decrypter to Demux VTS 03 PGC 02 ANGLE 01
(14:04:52) Finished Processing VTS 03 PGC 02 ANGLE 01
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(14:04:52) Skipping Field Diagnosis by User Request
(14:04:52) File to rename= \ÑD
(14:04:52) vid= 0, pgc= , ang= , vob= , cel= darloc= 4~3
(14:04:52) Rename to= VTS__03_P.4~3.M2V
(14:04:52) renerr= 2 vobid= 0 sub= 0 y= 2
(14:04:52) Using DVD Decrypter to Demux VTS 03 PGC 03 ANGLE 01
(14:04:54) Finished Processing VTS 03 PGC 03 ANGLE 01
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(14:04:54) Skipping Field Diagnosis by User Request
(14:04:54) File to rename= \ÑD
(14:04:54) vid= 0, pgc= , ang= , vob= , cel= darloc= 4~3
(14:04:54) Rename to= VTS__03_P.4~3.M2V
(14:04:54) renerr= 2 vobid= 0 sub= 0 y= 3
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(14:04:54) Step 2: Creating DVD2AVI Projects
(14:04:54) No D2V files found! Aborting this VTS.
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(14:04:54) Total extras minutes= 0.000000
(14:04:54) Total MainVTS minutes= 0.000000
(14:04:54) Task Completed.
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(14:04:54) Creating d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember\VIDEO_TS directory using unused VTSes
(14:04:55) -This may take a while!-
(14:04:55) Copied VTS_03_0.IFO (1 of 14 files) 7% Complete
(14:04:55) Copied VTS_03_0.BUP (2 of 14 files) 14% Complete
(14:05:53) Copied VTS_02_4.VOB (3 of 14 files) 21% Complete
(14:07:21) Copied VTS_02_3.VOB (4 of 14 files) 28% Complete
(14:08:51) Copied VTS_02_2.VOB (5 of 14 files) 35% Complete
(14:10:33) Copied VTS_02_1.VOB (6 of 14 files) 42% Complete
(14:10:45) Copied VTS_02_0.VOB (7 of 14 files) 50% Complete
(14:10:45) Copied VTS_02_0.IFO (8 of 14 files) 57% Complete
(14:10:45) Copied VTS_02_0.BUP (9 of 14 files) 64% Complete
(14:10:46) Copied VTS_01_1.VOB (10 of 14 files) 71% Complete
(14:10:46) Copied VTS_01_0.IFO (11 of 14 files) 78% Complete
(14:10:46) Copied VTS_01_0.BUP (12 of 14 files) 85% Complete
(14:10:46) Copied VIDEO_TS.IFO (13 of 14 files) 92% Complete
(14:10:47) Copied VIDEO_TS.BUP (14 of 14 files) 100% Complete
(14:10:47) Finished copying unused VTSes
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(14:10:47) Extras Assets= 0 bytes, DVDR Size= 4700000000
(14:10:47) Main VTS Assets= 4045725696, Chosen DVDR Size= 4700000000, Video_TS Directory= 4045725696 bytes
(14:10:47) Final Bitrate Calculations...
(14:10:47) (Doesn't work with HDD Demux mode, all other modes supported now!)
(14:10:47) ----
(14:10:48) Creating REJIGdata.txt file for use with Rejig 0.4b+

The following is with the "Header Flags" enabled.
(14:14:27) Welcome to DoItFast4U! v.1.4.0.0 - By Eyes`Only
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(14:14:27) Avisynth Version Detected= 2.5.2.0
(14:14:27) Checking AVS Scripts...
(14:14:27) OS Kernel = NT (good!)
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(14:14:27) Checking for CDROM/DVDROMS... Found Drives= E: F: G:
(14:14:27) Non-Right-click activation. Using last working directory: d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember\
(14:14:27) (If you don't know what this means, READ THE GUIDE!)
(14:14:29) Checking for Angles in VTS 01...
(14:14:29) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--32 Number of Cells= 2
(14:14:29) VTS 1 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--486 Number of Cells= 1
(14:14:29) VTS 1 PGC 2 Minutes= 1
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--776 Number of Cells= 3
(14:14:29) VTS 1 PGC 3 Minutes= 1
(14:14:29) Checking for Angles in VTS 02...
(14:14:29) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--24 Number of Cells= 18
(14:14:29) VTS 2 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--1062 Number of Cells= 1
(14:14:29) VTS 2 PGC 2 Minutes= 91
(14:14:29) Checking for Angles in VTS 03...
(14:14:29) Program_Chain_Information_Table_Offset--4096
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--32 Number of Cells= 1
(14:14:29) VTS 3 PGC 1 Minutes= 0
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--354 Number of Cells= 1
(14:14:29) VTS 3 PGC 2 Minutes= 3
(14:14:29) VTS_PGCI_Start_Byte--676 Number of Cells= 1
(14:14:29) VTS 3 PGC 3 Minutes= 2
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(14:14:30) Checking for updates...
(14:14:30) Updates Check Skipped ( Help->Check For Updates to turn this on )
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(14:14:30) Install Directory = C:\Program Files\DoItFast4U
(14:14:30) Current Directory = d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember
(14:14:30) Checking For Duplicate VobIDs...
(14:14:30) Checking For Duplicate VobIDs...
(14:14:30) No Duplicate VobIDs Found.
(14:14:30) Automatically selected 2 as largest VTS.
(14:14:36) Skipping VTS 1
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(14:14:36) Current Dir= d:\dvd's\Austin_Powers_Goldmember
(14:14:36) DVD Drive= G:
(14:14:36) Autocreating Directory
(14:14:36) DVD Drive= G:
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(14:14:36) DVDDEC Version 3.1.9.0 Location= C:\Program Files\DVD Decrypter
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(14:14:36) Newer version of DVDDec detected (3.1.9.0)
(14:14:36) Split Mode= auto VobID_Demux=0 CellID_Demux=0
(14:14:36) Using DVD Decrypter to Demux VTS 03 PGC 01 ANGLE 01
(14:14:39) Finished Processing VTS 03 PGC 01 ANGLE 01
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(14:14:39) Analyzing Video...
(14:14:40) Field Order could not be determined! Maximum tries reached.
(14:14:40) Total Odd / Even = 1 / 1 = Even/Unknown/B dominant and 0.00% progressive

And then DIF4U crashes.

[Eyes`Only]

The only thing I can think of is that you tweaked some DVD Decrypter settings somewhere.. it's obviously not demuxing any video files for some reason.

[Chubmeister]

You should try ripping this manually, as a check, use smartripper or another program just to prove you can get the files.

Have you ripped as an iso file first and mounted it to a virtual drive using daemon tools? (as recommended).

Doesnt look like the disk is corrupt, but they can get damaged easily.

Revert back to dvddecryptor 3.1.7 or something, uninstall your current version and leave it at the default settings when you put it back on again.

I did goldmember some time ago on older revision software at the time, no problems.

Let us know how you get on ripping manually.

[Fresh T.]

Originally posted by Chubmeister
You should try ripping this manually, as a check, use smartripper or another program just to prove you can get the files.

Have you ripped as an iso file first and mounted it to a virtual drive using daemon tools? (as recommended).

Doesnt look like the disk is corrupt, but they can get damaged easily.

Revert back to dvddecryptor 3.1.7 or something, uninstall your current version and leave it at the default settings when you put it back on again.

I did goldmember some time ago on older revision software at the time, no problems.

Let us know how you get on ripping manually.
I always rip it as an ISO file and use Deamon Tools. Using an older version of DVD Decrypter (3.1.7.0) resulted in the same failure. I haven't changed any settings in DVD Decrypter besides removing the PUO's. I tried using DVD Decrypter 3.1.9.0 and then demuxing them myself using the IFO mode and it came out fine, so I can access those files. But here's the nice part: Demuxing them myself resulted in a 100MB .m2v file and a 3.5MB AC3 file, while using DIF4U resulted in a 10MB .m2v file and a 0.3MB AC3 file.

[Fresh T.]

Does nobody have a solution/explanation for this? I've also encountered it with another dvd (Boat Trip) where it also ripped only a fraction of the whole vob and came up with the exact same error message.

[Eyes`Only]

nope, I did Boat Trip R1 (keeping every extra, and the killer menus) and it went just fine.

[Fresh T.]

hmmm... I finally figured out a solution. By correcting the original ifo's using ifoedit, it somehow seemed to work. I don't know the ins and outs, but I'm happy to finally backup these dvd's.