JFerguson
9th January 2004, 02:34
Maybe the third time's the charm?
First tried Big 3 a few months back. Result was too big and I couldn't read the files into DVD Shrink ("Programming error - impossible program state occurred") for post-processing.
Tried it again a month ago, but that was a title with shared VOBIds, so that probably wasn't a good idea in the first place. I'll have to take a look at that Finding Nemo guide that Eyes `Only just put out... ;)
Tried it again a couple of days ago on a relatively simple title (multi-PGC, but no sharing of VOBIds). Here's how that went...
First, check out these movie attributes:
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81,0x80)
Audio 3: (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x82)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20,0x21)
SubPicture 2: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22,0x23,0x20)
In DIF4U, I deselected the French Audio Stream, but left all of the Subtitle Streams checked.
The end result played, but was too big, and I ended up with 4 subtitle tracks instead of the original 2. I did a search here in the forums and saw some related inquiries relating to this but not much in terms of resolution. They were here:
ReAuthorist & Subtitles (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67567)
Subtitle question (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58730)
Can someone explain the subtitle assignments above? It appears that the title only has two actual subtitle tracks, but have multiple assignments?
So, I went back and redid the DIF4U step, deselecting subtitle streams 0x21, 0x22, and 0x23, leaving only 0x20. I didn't care about the French subtitles, btw.
Built the DVD and all came in at a good size. However, I could not bring the files into either DVD Shrink or InstantCopy and that bothered me.
As of late, I've been able to get past these DVD Shrink programming errors (I get 'em with InstantCopy output every once in a while too) with some work in IfoEdit. True here, too, just went in and did a Strip Streams and let IfoEdit rewrite the .IFO files and I could then read the content into DVD Shrink.
I figured it had something to do with what IfoUpdate does and does not transfer over from the Scenarist files. Did a lot of comparing of IFO files using that cheezy tool that I wrote (here (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdauthor/)). On a side note, here's a decent tool for doing 3-way comparisons: link (http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net); for 2-way I use Beyond Compare (link (http://www.scootersoftware.com)).
Anyway, I figured I'd take a look and see if there were any new IfoUpdate revs out (I was using v0.72) and lo and behold there is. Up to v0.77 as of 01/04/04 (check out the Doom 9 download page).
Using IfoUpdate v0.77 and these options:
Transfer VTS_C_ADT Table
Copy Color Table in Each PGC
VTS_TMAPTI Table Transfer (Time Map)
Adjust VTS_TMAPTI and ADMAP Sizes
I get:
output that's directly readable by DVD Shrink
proper advancing of content using PowerDVD time bar (you don't get kicked out to the menu)
Update: I did have to do IfoEdit Get VTS sectors after IfoUpdate to get this to go thru DVD Shrink, but that was it (and changes were made by IfoEdit even after doing the "Correct VTS Sectors" function in IfoUpdate).
The resultant IFO files actually look a lot like what I was getting when I was using Strip Streams in IfoEdit before to make the content readable in DVD Shrink.
Reading the changelog for IfoUpdate, it looks like Eyes `Only has been doing a little QC with jdobbs, so kudos to both you guys! I couldn't get the Time Map to transfer with the old version because the tables differed in size, so good work!
Looks like an update to the guide might be in order... :)
First tried Big 3 a few months back. Result was too big and I couldn't read the files into DVD Shrink ("Programming error - impossible program state occurred") for post-processing.
Tried it again a month ago, but that was a title with shared VOBIds, so that probably wasn't a good idea in the first place. I'll have to take a look at that Finding Nemo guide that Eyes `Only just put out... ;)
Tried it again a couple of days ago on a relatively simple title (multi-PGC, but no sharing of VOBIds). Here's how that went...
First, check out these movie attributes:
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
Audio 2: Français (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81,0x80)
Audio 3: (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x82)
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20,0x21)
SubPicture 2: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22,0x23,0x20)
In DIF4U, I deselected the French Audio Stream, but left all of the Subtitle Streams checked.
The end result played, but was too big, and I ended up with 4 subtitle tracks instead of the original 2. I did a search here in the forums and saw some related inquiries relating to this but not much in terms of resolution. They were here:
ReAuthorist & Subtitles (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67567)
Subtitle question (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58730)
Can someone explain the subtitle assignments above? It appears that the title only has two actual subtitle tracks, but have multiple assignments?
So, I went back and redid the DIF4U step, deselecting subtitle streams 0x21, 0x22, and 0x23, leaving only 0x20. I didn't care about the French subtitles, btw.
Built the DVD and all came in at a good size. However, I could not bring the files into either DVD Shrink or InstantCopy and that bothered me.
As of late, I've been able to get past these DVD Shrink programming errors (I get 'em with InstantCopy output every once in a while too) with some work in IfoEdit. True here, too, just went in and did a Strip Streams and let IfoEdit rewrite the .IFO files and I could then read the content into DVD Shrink.
I figured it had something to do with what IfoUpdate does and does not transfer over from the Scenarist files. Did a lot of comparing of IFO files using that cheezy tool that I wrote (here (http://www.mrbass.org/dvdauthor/)). On a side note, here's a decent tool for doing 3-way comparisons: link (http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net); for 2-way I use Beyond Compare (link (http://www.scootersoftware.com)).
Anyway, I figured I'd take a look and see if there were any new IfoUpdate revs out (I was using v0.72) and lo and behold there is. Up to v0.77 as of 01/04/04 (check out the Doom 9 download page).
Using IfoUpdate v0.77 and these options:
Transfer VTS_C_ADT Table
Copy Color Table in Each PGC
VTS_TMAPTI Table Transfer (Time Map)
Adjust VTS_TMAPTI and ADMAP Sizes
I get:
output that's directly readable by DVD Shrink
proper advancing of content using PowerDVD time bar (you don't get kicked out to the menu)
Update: I did have to do IfoEdit Get VTS sectors after IfoUpdate to get this to go thru DVD Shrink, but that was it (and changes were made by IfoEdit even after doing the "Correct VTS Sectors" function in IfoUpdate).
The resultant IFO files actually look a lot like what I was getting when I was using Strip Streams in IfoEdit before to make the content readable in DVD Shrink.
Reading the changelog for IfoUpdate, it looks like Eyes `Only has been doing a little QC with jdobbs, so kudos to both you guys! I couldn't get the Time Map to transfer with the old version because the tables differed in size, so good work!
Looks like an update to the guide might be in order... :)