Credit Compression in Auto GK

[CCoug83]

I don't know if there is a way to setup further credit compression with the way autogk is laid out, but if there were it would be my definite choice for full time ripping. You can gain a pretty good amount on the bitrate by using further credit compression. This is basically the only feature that keeps me ripping with regular GK (besides Auto GK's lack of a batch mode, which I understand is under development). Right now I just use Auto GK for converting TV related material because I seem to have a hard time getting that part right in regular GK.

Keep up the good work!

[bilu]

Welcome to the forum :)

IMHO it's hard to do automatic credits compression, it would conflict with a batch mode.

Imagine you put 5 movies in a batch - would you manually specify the credits before each film? Or all before the batch job starts?

The option itself could be available I guess - but there's no way to automatically detect where credits are through Avisynth's conditional filtering.


Bilu

[CCoug83]

I suppose it is a tall order to ask for that as well. I figured it would be practically impossible. Sigh, I guess I can't have all the features of GK in AutoGK or it wouldn't be AutoGK.

Something else I would like to see is the ability to change the codec settings. I know that it's highly debated if running the slower passes helps any, but I like to do it anyway to make sure I get the optimal quality. Usually I run the first pass on standard, then the second pass on slow. I'd like to be able to set it this way in AutoGK so I can achieve the highest quality.

[len0x]

Originally posted by bilu
but there's no way to automatically detect where credits are through Avisynth's conditional filtering.


*I* believe it should be pretty easy to write a filter which returns you a frame number for a start of credits (although I have no experience of programming avisynth filters). But somehow noone did that yet...

[bilu]

Why don't you post that idea in the Avisynth Development forum? :)

Bilu

[pixolex]

just a idea...

but i think in 99% of cases the last chapter of a movie is the start of the credits...

and if there is a option to enable or desable rip credits in a diferent bitrate we could USE the chapters to do that or not...:)

like i said just a idea

[stax76]

the movies I tested didn't start with the last chapter

[pixolex]

Originally posted by Dolemite
the movies I tested didn't start with the last chapter

well 90% a think :D

but all my movies the last chapter was start of the credits or a little bit after

[bilu]

Originally posted by pixolex
well 90% a think :D

but all my movies the last chapter was start of the credits or a little bit after What would you prefer in this case:
a) 20 hours encoding and find out that you missed the end of the movie?
b) Preview every movie and mark credits, possibly killing the batch encoding feature?
c) Encode credits as a normal part of the movie?

Bilu

[CCoug83]

I think I would rather have the option of previewing it and selecting the frame where the credits start. Some movies have video in the credits (bloopers, more scenes, etc.) which I like to leave normal. To me, this feature may be worth not having the batch mode. At least with this option I could completely switch to AutoGK. I got to thinking a little more, and couldn't you change the PREVIEW function in AutoGK to be the same as GK's window when you open the D2V file? It wouldn't make any difference to beginners because you can still preview the movie even play it in the preview window, and then you could set the credits starting point, then add the job. Repeat the process again for your next movie, and bingo you have batch mode and credit recompression in AutoGK. (I'm just winging things here, but it seems like a good idea to me.)

I love how it does the compressibility checks and auto IVTC and all that. Honeslty, my television show rips that I use AutoGK for turn out a lot better than my rips of television shows I do in GK.

Like I mentioned in my above post too, I would definitely like to see a little more control over the codec settings. Maybe you could hide this ability in one of the menus up top so not to clutter or confuse the ameteur users that don't need or want this option on the main interface.

Thanks again for making such a great program. I've been a faithful fan going on 6 months now.

[bilu]

An interesting project would be mixing AutoGK and GordianKnot into one project where you would select user levels, like Beginner, Intermediate and Advance, and a Custom one. Custom would let you define which decisions would be yours or automatic. It would become the de facto coolest ripping application ever, even more than AutoGK and Gordian Knot together.


Bilu

[pixolex]

Originally posted by bilu
What would you prefer in this case:
a) 20 hours encoding and find out that you missed the end of the movie?
b) Preview every movie and mark credits, possibly killing the batch encoding feature?
c) Encode credits as a normal part of the movie?

Bilu

well i choose a.1 :) 4 hours encoding (with Xvid) and find out that you missed the end of the movie...it's a risc ;)

or b..preview every movie...bla bla...but i think lenox wanna something more automatic.

I think with all the options in autoGK now the development of this tools is finished. weel some better suport in codecs(new xvid 1.0 and new filters) and fixe some bugs. But the main concept to this tools by lenox IMHO is DONE...a pretty simple and good tool to backup dvds.

And if i'm rigth the way to go it's make something like EAC and like you said, options to HIDE some "more advanced" features to the newbies .

Because the very annoying thing is to do every thing before the configuration of codecs, to me! But i admite the configuration of codecs can be very dificult to some one that just want to back a dvd to cds.

Like i said IMHO the way to go is add some more advanced features (hided) and converge to GK but more frendly...

Just a opinion

Thanks to "SAINT" lenOx by this two tools autoGK and GK!

[CCoug83]

I disagree that the tool is FINISHED. Just like it's predecessor, it's still a work in progress, a brilliant work in progress of course. I'm extremely glad that someone (lenox) enjoys making these kinds of programs... and is even so gracious as to provide them free of charge to the masses. I'll remain a faithful visitor and user of his programs, continually updating to the newest version and playing with all the cool new features.