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redbaron2
5th January 2004, 18:53
Hi everybody!

I'm resizing The Mask Of Zorro Pal r2 at the moment, and have a too high total bitrate problem when compiling in scenarist.
i searched and found lot of advises in the forum, and followed them, but the problem is not solved.
hier some data:
main movie consists of 6 vobid's 1-5 are diffrent angles 6 is the rest of the movie
the angles show diffrent openings (english, german, netherlands aso.)
i study the procedures-book from scenarist und used not-seamless cells, which means each angle has own audio and subpicture data. Zorro has 2 audio-streams at 384 kbit/s and 17 subpicturestreams, i skipped the commentary track.
all angles have the following bitrates:
min 0, avg 1500, max 5500.

i don't know why scenarist reports errors, everything's correctly encoded.
any suggestions?

thanks!

Eyes`Only
7th January 2004, 00:29
when using cce, did you check the 'dvd compliant' checkbox?

redbaron2
7th January 2004, 13:31
no i didn't, but i checked dvd-multiangle.
i checked the files with bitrate viewer also.
peakbitrate is 4.484 kbit/s.

Eyes`Only
7th January 2004, 16:54
Well, you are using 2 audio tracks at 384kbps each, for each angle. That's 3840. You encoded at 5500, that brings the bitrate up to 9340. This leaves approx 1460 available for subs. 17 subs is a lot of subs. Contrary to popular belief, subs CAN take up a lot of bitrate. As a matter of fact, the range of bitrates on subs is quite large. They can take anywhere from a couple kbps to a couple thousand kbps. I've never really researched it that deeply to find out what determines this, but I think it's the complexity of pictures contained within them, and it also seems to be proportional to the amount of streams. I'm quite sure it's your subtitles that are taking you over the limit. I would recommend removing a couple streams, and try to compile again. If that doesn't work, remove a couple more, etc. Once you get your project compiling, you may be able to work out how much more bitrate the remaining subs are going to take and then you'll know where you can set your max.

Then again, I could be totally wrong. It's all an educated guess. Just trying to help!

redbaron2
8th January 2004, 01:50
okay i will try this, thanks for your suggestions!