making a "vcd" by burning on DVD-R?!?

[emazur]

Hello,
If I have a bunch of vcd compliant mpegs sitting on my hd, normally I'd simply burn a vcd onto a cdr and be done with them. But if I had a DVD-R (which I just now bought), can I make a "VCD" with a crapload of mpegs on a single DVD-R, and then play it back in powerdvd (or maybe some real DVD players)? If not, why, and what would you recommend I do with them (using a DVD-R)?
And just to make sure I'm clear on something, if I want to make a standard DVD, vcd mpeg videos MUST be reencoded right? I'm not willing to spend the time and very likely loss of quality doing the conversion, but if they don't need to be converted to MPEG2 than I don't see a problem.

[jojo15]

I'm not 100% sure but i think you can make a "vcdvd"
Someone else has to verify that..
And yes, for a standard dvd you need an mpeg2 file so you'll have to re-encode your vcd's for that..

[Bubba]

emazur,

Yes you can put VCD on DVD. VCD's video standard (i.e. 352x240/288) is already DVD-compliant, but VCD's audio standard of 44.1 KHz is not DVD-compliant which requires 48 KHz. There are plenty of tools that will do this conversion, but I recommend to TMPGEnc DVDAuthor that will automatically convert your audio to DVD-compliant's 48KHz if it is not. TMPGEnc DVDAuthor also allows other DVD-compliant's format (i.e. 352x480/576, 702x480/576, 720x480/576), to co-exist within one DVD. Very convenient.

Cheers

[towknee]

Whoa Buddy Im using this TMPGEnc DVDAuthor like you suggested. This is great i was doing it the hard way before using reel dvd and burning a "low res DVD" (VCDVD). It was not cool cause you had to demux the audio > convert audio to 48KHZ > make the menu > Ect. TMPGENC DVD does it all in one swoop. Most tight. Thanks

-Tony

[emazur]

So many quick and useful replies- thanks a bunch guys. And the answers exceeded my expectations- I wasn't aware that standard DVD supported MPEG1 video. So would I be right in assuming that such a DVD would work even with DVD players that don't support VCD? For other newbies I found thisDVD Chart of Standars (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/dvd)
And also an "official" guide for VCD2DVD conversion:


VCD2DVD (http://www.lordsmurf.com/convert/vcdtodvd/vcdtodvd.htm)
It basically states what Bubba said, but has pictures, and also tells you how to go about using .dat files from a burned vcd if you want to convert to DVD. Doom9 could use a guide like this.

Like I said, your answers have already exceeded my expectations. But just for the heck of it (and for the fact that audio theoretically wouldn't need to be reencoded which would take time & reduce quality), is it possible to make a VCD on DVD-R that complies to the VCD standard (not the DVD standard)? If anyone is confused this disc would be exactly like a VCD in every way (including 44.1 khz audio), but takes advantage of the extra storage space of DVD-R in order to fit more episodes or hours of footage. I'd assume this disc would work on pc software like power dvd (right?) but do you think it would work on standalone dvd players too? My guess is that it will work, but only if the DVD player has VCD support.

[jojo15]

Well,
i think this dvd will be supported by standalones who don't support vcd's
and i think you can use the vcd standards,
but you must choose in nero or something for vcd, not for dvd, then i'll think it'll be fine..