MT1389xx Based Player Information

[CruNcher]

ChipsRev/Players
-----------------
DivX Certified MT1389DE = Elta 8883,Amstrad 3016dx,Irradio Dvx 103,Ascomtec DVD-3004,
Rimax NEW, Scott 842, Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4, Yamada DVX6600
DivX Certified MT1389EE =
DivX Certified MT1389FE = Peekton 6003,Atacom DV967
Not Certified PreChip/Buggy MT1389GE = Gran Prix,Lifetec 7457,Medion 7457,Nevir 2046,NeoDigits NeuNeo
Transcontinent TR-100,,Dual 800,Ansonic dixh-ht10,DK Digital DVD-339
DivX Certified MT1389SE =


Firmware:

Elta 8883 (Germany) 1st update
---------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66108)

Amstrad 3016dx (Italy)
--------------- 1st Update
VERSION = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.33

Irradio Dvx 103 (Italy)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14

Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx (Austria)
-----------------------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 54.03.00.02
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65648)

Lifetec 7457 (France)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.01.00.05
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08


Medion 7457 (Germany,Denmark) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.35

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67066)

Dual 800 (Germany)
---------------
Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 54.0D.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ascomtek DVD-3004 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.01
8032 = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
Servo = ??.??.??.?? 01.05.01.00
RISC = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.02.02
DSP = ??.??.??.?? 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65884)

Ascomtek DVD-3006 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??

Nevir 2046 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 54.07.00.01
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.23

Addnew AN-DivX600 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Arlink MP-530 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Gowell Divx-888 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

BBK DV967 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Auvion SL-801K (Germany)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Transcontinent TR-100 (France) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 54.00.00.07 54.09.00.03
8032 = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.36

Keyplug 4810 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Atacom DV967 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Peekton 6003 (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = 01.06.00.00
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Technika T1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.08.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Wilson DM1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.0A.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

LaFayette DV967 (US/UK ?)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Rimax NEW (UK) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

Yamada DVX6600 (Europe)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 0B.00.00.02
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

NeoDigits NeuNeo Mpeg4 DVD (US)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Scott 842
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.02.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.20.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36

DK Digital DVD-339 (UK)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.04
SUB-VERSION = 44.01.00.03
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4 (Germany,Netherlands)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Tests

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Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx


XviD Aloha Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

ASP features:

B-frames <- WORKS Perfect
Qpel <- WORKS Perfect
GMC 3 Warp Point <- Problems (slow playback see below)

Matrices:
H263 <- WORKS Perfect
MPEG <- WORKS Perfect
HVS <- WORKS Perfect

Upsampling (Bleeding Colors) <- No Problems

Test Videos:

b-frames(2).avi (640x272) 550 kbps <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 Mp3 128 Abr) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
level5.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
fullresvbr.avi (720x304 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
rmdfullres.avi (704x576 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 4.8 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect

gmc-h263.avi (640x272) <- slideshow
gmc-qpel-hvs.avi (640x272) <- jerky all the way picture every 5seconds
gmc-qpel-h263.avi (640x272) <- better then the one before still slideshow

used Source:

640x272 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
640x346 = Matrix Reloaded Trailer (Sorenson 3 Ultra Trailer Resized) (Matroska Techdemo)
720x304 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
704x576 = Romeo Must Die Trailer (DVD)

DivX 3.11 Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

smart bitrate controll intro (DivX 3.11 SBC 640x272 Mp3 160 kbps CBR) 1 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
shaggy.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 576x416 Mp3 192 kbps ABR) 1.3 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
lenya.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 512x304) Mp3 192 kbps VBR) 2.7 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect


Problems:
Desync from the beginning with CBR Mp3 muxed Movies (very old rips). (fixed latest firmware)
Speedup/Slowdown problems most probably overheating or EMF problems occouring randomly. (GE based Player)
Scaling wrong (not really that noticeable). (fixed latest firmware)
Packed Bitstream with more then 1 B-frames doesn't work

at least the CBR Mp3 problem and the Scaling probs seem to be fixed with the newest firmware for DE
and GE based player.

if you have more infos about the Chip (Specifications) Firmware or any other Info about coming players or Tests
please don't wait to post them :) Please be aware that these Players are in somekind of a Beta Status and
when you think about buying one you'll most likely buy a thing wich could be outdated really fast.

The Elta 8883 DE is Assembled different then the GE based Players the MT Chip lies beneath the loader and on the
others it's a the right site, could be an indication that the GE Chip has little heat problems as allready assumed here
by some french folks
http://tototeseb.9online.fr/onatester/liteon7457.htm

Warning: Most GE Based Player die after a Firmware update so be carefull even if you get the original
(btw the firmware is not done by the sellers it's done by MediaTek) This could also be the reason why
GE based Player most times are cheaper then DE Based Player for example. To my knowledge the
GE based assembly cost the sellers arround 40 € and are sold @ arround 80 € and the DE based player 60 €
and are sold @ 120 € i have no real confirmation for this values yet.

Announced GE Firmware: Atacom DV967,Nevir 2046 (2nd), Medion 7457 (2nd)
Announced DE Firmware: Elta 8883 (2nd (OGG),Yamada DVX6600 (OGG,AVI subs)

GE Chip Bugs: Speedup/Slowdown @ playback random problem (seems to be fixed with latest firmware !!)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi CruNcher,

Thanks for posting such detailed info.

I can't remember anyone asking before but how good are these players at spinning RAW Mpeg1 and 2 encodes?

I gather, that a firmware upgrade is already available for the Elta 8883. Do you know if it's an official or unofficial upgrade?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Official enhancement list of firmware for elta 8883:

Modification:
• DVD/VCD/SVCD/CDDA/mp3/Divx4.x/5.x playback
• Divx3.11 support
• SRT/SSA/SMI divx subtitle support
• multi-language support(English,German,French,Italian,Spanish and
Russian)
• .jpeg,.jpe(for JPG file) and .divx(for divx file) extension
 > support 6) restore the value of setting(STOP+BWD+FWD) 7)OGG and WAV file playback

• WMA file playback
• Hot keys for setting DVD region code and
• 480P/576P/720P/1080i video output
• Auto DVD audio/subtitle selection
• Improved DivX 3.11 Codec
• PCM Audioformat in AVI-Files is supported


EDIT: Link removed! Don't update!

This article (http://www.golem.de/0312/28995.html) (german) also states ogg support.

Let's see if I can pluck up the courage to try this one on my Gran Prix.

@CruNcher: I haven't forgotten the DAR sample, I'll try it tomorrow

cu, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hmm,

The firmware upgrade I found was not nearly as big as this. It comprised of an .doc file totalling 247KB and an MKT.BIN file totalling 1,015KB

Me thinks we have the makings of a couple of Moderators for this section of the forum..... About time too!

Cheers guys

[monty0815]

Just did a diff on the 2 firmware isos (the one for the 8882 and the other one for the 8883) and they are identical.
So I don't think it is the same as the the one which was released (unofficially?) two days ago.
Maybe the smaller one is far more hardware specific. Furthermore you had to call the UpdateCD MEDIATEK.

[SeeMoreDigital]

OK.

Although I have not, as yet, purchased one of these standalone players myself.

I would hate to think that some owners might be encouraged to upgrade their players with outdated/unofficial firmware!

Cheers

[monty0815]

Must be an error, it would probably destroy your player if you use the sigma update on a mediatek player.
According to another board elta has been informed of the mistake.

SO DON'T UPGRADE YOUR 8883!

[Zhnujm]

It was the firmware for the 8882, for the 8883 theres only the unoffical update.

[die_leuchte]

Official update will be back online tomorrow as golem wrote after talking with Elta Today!

[CruNcher]

DSP,8032,Servo and Risc updates come as it looks like directly from MediaTek.
the other enhancements are on a Sub-Level this is also indicated by the firmware marked as Sub-Version.
Firmware updates between the Gran Prix, Lifetec and the coming Medion should be the same (GE) only the Sub-Version will change (most likelie gui things) the question now are the decissions about what container support is made available also definable in these Sub-Version region (so Elta could change it with they Embedded Programmers "do they have such guys ??" or most likelie it is in the hands of MediaTek and ESS to integrate those capabilities on request ?
Problem now with the (GE) Chip could be that it was a Prototype Chip and that it's maybe not anymore working with (DE) updates so updating a (GE) chip based player with a (DE) Firmware could possibly lead to lose of functionality or "dissengaging" of the player if we dont get a statement on what the (GE) chip is "chips that getting to hot and fallen out of the production "DivX Certification" and sold for lower prices but still compatible with (DE) updates ?" i would not risk it maybe if i had a orginal firmware as backup.

Anyone has the Elta updated ? what does the Servo show in the updated firmware ?

[romravan]

Hallo,
I have an italian clone of Elta 8883, whose name is Amstrad 3016dx, it is different for active optical escape
firmaware is:
VERSION =05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION =00.00.01.06
8032 =05.00.01.06
RISC =05.00.01.06
DSP =03.03.00.14
REGION FREE

its price is 99 euro......

you thoughts that are upgradable with firmaware elta...?

sorry for my bad english.....

[CruNcher]

that sounds good but this is only still a theory the other problem is we dont know yet how then Special OEM things like the Optical output are handled so if they are defined in the SUB-Version you could possibly lose that capability of your Player after an Elta firmware update. You could try it but you risking your Player if you do, but when nobody tries it we never find out i assume from you firmware that this Amstrad is a DE based Player ? And its clear that i take no resposibility for any damages this might cause and be aware even if it works you could lose the Optical output and then without a base firmware you can't get it back. Could you please also post your Servo version ?

[Doom9]

@cruncher: actually these Aldi players are DivX certified according to DXn.

[romravan]

Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg

[Zhnujm]

The actual Firmware for the elta is this:

Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by romravan
Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg AMSTRAD!!!

Wow, Alan Sugar strikes again.

This player should be in UK stores soon.

Cheers

[CruNcher]

Doom9 their are many DivX Players gone arround on Aldi not only MediaTek based ones and to my knowledge (press Release MediaTek) only those Chips that listed above got certified even if i myself don't hold much from DXNs Certification that let suspect that this Chip has some uknown problems.

thx Zhnujm for the update

[Doom9]

@cruncher: I asked the DXn specifically about my Gran Prix player ;)

[Zhnujm]

btw, the firmware update that is mentioned in the news on the main page with subtitle/... support is not for the 8883, its for the 8882.

[Sorrow]

Are there any sites that will ship to the US? Or that are in english. ;) I'd love to get my hands on one of these.

S.

[CruNcher]

Doom9 hmm then maybe you could also ask DXN where the differences between those chips are and why MediaTek doesn't mention that the GE also got Certified in their press Release ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Given that all these new players carry a MediaTek chipset. Do any of you guys think/wonder/know if the firmware upgrade for say, the Elta will suit say, the Gran Prix or the Medion!

It would appear they all share the same remote control and maybe even the same internal operating system/GUI layout!

Is this a reasonable question, or am I just wishful thinking?


Cheers

[amango]

I heard that Mediatek-based players does have problems with XVID if you are using more then ONE B-frame. Is that true, or was that problem already solved?

[Doom9]

@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

[Charbax2]

I got a Medion player, here are the stuff info it says:


Medion (Denmark)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08



I seriously got AV-synch problems. And freezes.. so maybe elta firmware upgrades will work here also..

[CruNcher]

Charbax2 and SeeMoreDigital
please read on the first pages carefully what i think and what i fear
to sumon it up i belive that it would be to much of a time effort for MT to maintain a unique firmware for every one of those chips "selers", so they most probably will work on any of those chips without problems but that's not confirmed yet and someone still needs to risk his player todo so.

[shredness]

Two questions:

1.Are any MediaTek based DVD/DivX players available in the US?

and (more importantly)

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?

TIA!!

[Doom9]

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?
Most definitely.

[scifiguy]

There doesn't seem to be a lot of crosstalk about the player. How many here actually have one? Where would you purchase one if you wanted one?

[oddball]

Nothing in the UK yet then?

[Doom9]

@scifiguy: Which player are you talking about? There are quite a few of us who own one of those Aldi players (me included), and elta has agreed to send a 8883 over for testing after my codec comparison.

[scifiguy]

I was thinking about the Elta 8883. The capabilities seem pretty impressive - although the market is getting swamped now with new boxes from other manufacturers.

[oddball]

Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :(

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by oddball
Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :( Too Bloody True Mate!

[CruNcher]

Old europe RuleZ :rolleyes:
sorry had to get that out but doesn't belong here really just be pationed it will come sooner or later to your wonderfull island too :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, I'm off to France and Germany for 10 days, starting from Dec28.

Maybe I might be able to pick up a player!

I wonder if they have 'sales' in euro land?

Cheers

[amango]

Originally posted by Doom9
@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

I have bought the new Medion-Player today. All my XVID encodings with 2 B-frames are stuttering almost the whole time. If I encode with "packed bitstream" there is no difference. Without B-Frames the videos are playing smooth. So it DOES have problems with B-frames. However it is a very nice player and I don't regret buying it, as it is much better than any ESS-based player I have seen yet.

[monty0815]

@amango
Are you sure you didn't use GMC too in those encodes?

[amango]

Of course! I never use GMC in my encodings. Only B-Frames, nothing more.

[CruNcher]

amango im about to test my Pearl Harbour encode stay tuned :)
no problems amango sorry but my encode works it uses 2 b-frames hvs matrix and qpel no problems.

[amango]

@cruncher

Which bitrate have you used? I usually have this problems with high-bitrate AVIs (2000 KBit and higher).

Which settings do you use for B-Frames? Can you list your whole settings for encoding this video you just finished?

I just encoded a 90 minutes-movie yesterday. The whole movie slows down after 5 minutes and playback becomes jerky. I just encoded a twenty-minute video out of the same movie, but without B-Frames. The playback is smooth all the time.

[Zhnujm]

I have had the same problems with xvid+bframes with my elta 8883 (even with only 1 bframe).
The firmware update fixed the problem.

[amango]

Ah! So I have to wait for Medion making a firmware update... :)

[CruNcher]

bitrate was ~550 kbps 3 h 640x272 without sound standard b-frame settings qpel and hvs matrix testing more samples and clips now

[Colyptic]

I see XviD 1.0 QPel is supported. As I believe QPel code changed alot in dev-api4, I'm just curious if dev-api3 QPel is supported by the elta?

[CruNcher]

The CBR unsync problem has been pinpointed
the problem is the sampling frequenzy of 44100 Hz for MP3 CBR files this
is causeing the proportional delay @ playback a sampling frequenzy of 48000 Hz works fine and shows no problems.

[plazz2000]

What audio formats does the elta 8883 support?

Is there a list of specifications or maybe a review of it somewhere?

I'd like to have more information before I buy one.

Is it true that XviD GMC (3-warppoint) and OGM will be supported in February?

EDIT: Never mind that final question. I read doom9's answer in another thread.

[CruNcher]

@plazz2000 look above @ the test this is the same for the elta player the Chips features are the same. Only the firmware is newer and fixes some bugs like the scaling problem and some other thinks like the servo
function their is still no mentioning what the GE Chip Series is missing or what the differences is between them but the GE Chip is mostly used for Low budget players in the price range of 80 € the DE chip is used in the Price Region of about 120 € but for me the 80 € player seemes the same besides the firmware so you can save alot of money but still it's not known if their ever will be updates for the GE based players nothing official yet.

[CruNcher]

Ok some updates on the front trying to update the medion 7457 with the new Nevir Firmware failed in 4 of 5 tries so be aware updating @ all is a risky thing for those players as it seems. Even some Nevir Players are dead now :( And yes my player is dead also :D

[samcook2003]

Hi,

I know it was stupid, but I updated my Medion 7457 with the Elta-Firmware. Result --> Before I shutdown the player he showed me the elta-label and the setup for this player, but after I shut him down,
he was dead.

Conclusion: Don't be as stupid as I was.

cu

Sam

[monty0815]

Haven`t dared to update my gran prix player yet (and probably won`t after what i`ve heard).
I just tried some sort of basic cooling with some heat paste and a small heatsink.
Still that didn`t solve the problems with the speed/slow downs.
Has anybody had any luck with any modification to the player?

Happy new year,
cheers, monty

[CruNcher]

jep i also wouldn't risk it for now at least try updateing my replaced MD 7457 again :)

[monty0815]

Too bad, seems most updates fail.
With my basic spanish I understood that most nevir Players which had their official update are dead now.

[m99]

What players with Mediatek 1389 is there out there now?

[SHODANXX]

I own the Medion Player too. But i got problems encoding my DivX/XviD.
While Video always works the player does not play the sound.
I use Lame as MP3 Encoder trying different bitrates but it did not work. Which Bitrate do i have to use?
And to the question mentioned above: the player is able to play several encoded avis from DVD. as well as it plays jpgs, mpgs and mp3s from DVD+-R(W).
Greets SHODANXX

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by m99
What players with Mediatek 1389 is there out there now? That may be difficult to say with 100% certainty now.

It would be nice to think that MediaTek would know, as I think it's a great shame that chipset manufacturers in general don't have greater control over second party firmware upgrades designed for use with their own manufactured chipsets!

Cheers

[bond]

what about reading the first post in this thread!

[SHODANXX]

Uh. I am sorry. Think i violated one of the most basic forum rules.
Please accept my apologies.

[m99]

Oops! I didn't notice that the first post was updated.

[oddball]

The RIMAX player has a Mediatek chipset. If you hex edit firmware 'A' MTK.BIN on their site it has "MT1369 RESETDISC UPGRADE". Can someone find out if that is inside the bin file for the 1389? or if there is a difference between the two chipsets? I read somewhere that the Ascomtech firmware could be used on the RIMAX also.

[Divido77]

Hi everyone! I´m from Spain and I have the dvd-mediatek Nevir 2046 and I update with the own firmware and now is perfect! no desincronizations but no yet capable for ogm in xvid but it eat most part of my divx and xvids and with high quality.I know that the grand prix and medion 7457 are suitables for the same firmware so if you are with security of return the dvd you can try,I know because in the forum in Spain the people now are not getting in trouble with the firmware for Nevir,in the beginning it was a problem cause a lot of dvds died but now with the sistem for burning(very important switch off before updating) they are living and going very well.And the Ascomtec 3004 is suitable for Elta 8883.The problem is that firmware for ascomtec is not very functional,it doesn´t repair the problems at all.
sorry for my english,I left my classes years ago and now is very poor...
Cheers

[CruNcher]

(very important switch off before updating)

hmm what do you mean by that what to switch off ? the Power ?

[DMJ]

I got myself a Medion 7457 just before Christmas :rolleyes:
And want to hear if anyone knows if it supports *srt subtitles (or any other subtitle format)
And if so, how to use?

DMJ.

[Divido77]

Hi,when I said switch off it was the power efectively,cause in the volatil memory stays some dates from the disc read before,switching off its cleared completly the memory and then is ready for the firmware.Think about it,with the file of the update, that we are changing all the firmware initial,1Mb most part of times and any date that is remaining can avoid the good working of the dvd.

[monty0815]

@DMJ subs aren't supported at the moment, an i doubt there will be a firmwareupgrade in the near future

@Divido77
Could you please give a link to the flashing instructions, as I find it kind of hard to navigate through the spanish forums

cheers

[die_leuchte]

Hi folks!

Be cautious with the fw from the nevir player. 4 of 5 people who tried to flash the Nevir firmware on the Medion 7457 destroyed their players with it! Seems like there different versions of the Medion 7457 on the market, so better wait for official updates. If you want to know more and you're able to read German try http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64372

pls. read the complete thread. If you have problems with understanding ask me for a translation.

greetz

die_Leuchte

[CruNcher]

what die_Leuchte wrote is true at least for the Medion their 2 different
mainboard assemblys and we don't know yet how this interfers with the flashing process so still be carefull and even with the switch off power method (and if i remember correct i done this) it could be the last CD that your drive is gonna read :(. New findings also show that some CBR MP3 are not standard conformly done but it's nearly impossible to say what the problem is it could be a old "b0rked" Lame version that produced floating point CBR encodes so you can be almost sure that videos that are old "downloaded/selfmade" that play fine on the PC could have problems with sync on the Standalone, but it's not MediaTek's fault their new firmware solves it wich is indeed a nice feature.

Ahh and here is something funny :)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dafperso/photo/photo10.jpg

this is a new MediaTek Based Player from (France) the Peekton 6003

[die_leuchte]

Ok cause this is one thing realy pissing me off, I set the whole night in front of my MD 7457 to find out in which constellation the assynch problem occures and thats what I found out (maybe someone could tell me what that means):

(Used Gspot to compare the different files)

Divx with MP3 CBR 128k "Split = Yes" OpenDML Avi -> asynchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 192k "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 64k Mono "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 128k "Split = No" -> synchronous
S-MPEG 4 v3 with MP3 128k "Split = Yes" -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 96k "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 96k "Split = Yes" OpenDML Avi -> asynchronous

seems like the async problem only occures when "Split = Yes" and the file is OpenDML Avi.

It'd be great if there'd be anyone out there that could tell me what Gspot means with "Split = Yes" and OpenDML Avi & Avi (in the Stream Type and A/V interlace section).

greetz

die_Leuchte

[begu]

I did not find accurate information about over 2gb files for elta 8883, does it work?

I assume that the firmware (not the Mediatek chip) determines if the over 2gb file in udf format in DVD-R can be played, right?

I have an opportunity to buy the new Rimax player with Mediatek chipset (the better one?). But I did not find any info about it's ability to play over 2gb files. Also I did not find any info about it's new firmware or the ability to playback the subtitles (simple .srt etc.). Does anyone here know something bout the Rimax new player?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by begu
I did not find accurate information about over 2gb files for elta 8883, does it work?


No. It stops playing after something around 1GB.
But it does play files <2GB fine.
AFAIK theres no player out that can play avi files >2GB, if you can find one please post, im also searching.

[Top_Cat]

How can I tell if my Elta 8883 has a GE Chip or a DE chip? I just ordered one from ebay so it would be good to find out when it arrives

Thanks

[bond]

open the player and look what is written on the chip ;)

[amango]

An update for GE-based chipsets will be available soon. Medion just announced an update for the MD-7457. It should be released in two weeks. Also Nevir announced an update.

[CruNcher]

@Top_Cat all Elta 8883 have the DE Chip

[begu]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
No. It stops playing after something around 1GB.
But it does play files <2GB fine.
AFAIK theres no player out that can play avi files >2GB, if you can find one please post, im also searching.

I don't quite follow. You must mean "It stops after something around 2GB" (Instead of 1GB??).

I find this odd. In the Kiss forums, there is some info about the UDF support. And I can play over 2 GB files using Sigma's Xcard (with UDF filesystem on DVD-R). And the xcard uses similar chip to the Kiss (of course the drivers and firmware must support over 2 GB). The 2.0 beta drivers did bring the support for over 2 GB files, so I assume the firmware must support it too. I must check in the Kiss forums, if the player can handle over 2 GB.

Is this the actual truth, there must be someone else requesting for firmware update (for standalone players) to support over 2 GB, hmmm?
Can anyone else confirm, that these Mediatek xx chip equipped players can't do over 2 GB ?? Well I guess that if Zhnujm says so, so it is, sad. :(

In the bottom line, I might just get the same quality using Qpel and multiple b-frames with 2 gb file than I'm getting now without Qpel and b-frames using 2.4 GB file. Thanks to Xvid team. :)

** EDIT **: for Zhnujm: here is thread from Kiss forums. Few persons calim that they can play over 2GB AVI. Generally the opininon is that it is not possible. So only way to find out is to buy the player ;)

[Doom9]

Some rather disturbing news regarding the GE chip: I asked DXn about that chip, and they haven't had any in their lab and so far have been unable to get any information about the chip from MediaTek. I'll keep you posted on any development on this issue.

[Top_Cat]

CruNcher: Thank you for the information. Is it worth updating the firmware on the 8883 I get the feeling that some people are having problems with it?

[Zhnujm]

@begu:
No, thats the funny thing, if the file is bigger than 2GB (i tried a near 4GB file) the playback stops much before the 2GB limit.
Cant say if it is exactly 1GB, but the same is true for my Yamada (ESS based).

I think the kiss players are a bit expensive only for testing ;), but before that, the Sigma Players were limited because they did not support UDF DVDs so maybe its now possible to play >2GB files with the UDF support.

And i would also ask at least twice if somebody says that a player can play files >2GB, most people make only a short test if the file is playable and nothing more :rolleyes:

But i think i can live with splitting the files in 2 or 3 parts until theres a player that supports it (and does not use Sigma or ESS).
If that ever happens ;)

[begu]

Odd indeed :/
Well if I calculte correctly:
2 GB = 1024 * 2 = 2048 MB -> You can encode ~2040 MB AVI ?
And this can be played back without problems.

The only positive side is, that with the advanced options (b-frames and Qpel) I may achieve same quality with 2gb limit than using bigger files without advanced options.

So, maybe the FW will be updated to support >2gb someday.

[Doom9]

alright, the GE chip mystery is solved but I'm afraid the news isn't too good:

The 1389GE is an early version of the certified chip. It is incomplete and buggy and was to be sold as a generic MPEG-4 chipset without DivX playback (and thus certification).

DXn is currently testing the chip but it appears to be identical to a chip they've tested before and that failed certification. So we can remove the DivX certified from that chip..

[bond]

normally i would say "who needs divx certification" but when it didnt even pass this outdated/limited certification its surely a little risk to use that chip :D

tough it would be interesting to know what exactly were the reasons why it didnt pass

[SeeMoreDigital]

Agreed!

It must be a pretty poor chipset.

Cheers

[CruNcher]

hehe finaly that is solved i knew it before because that thing is swapping the markets @ very low prices but the only problem with that chip that i expirenced so far is a speedup/slowdown problem :) but you can save like 40 € for such a GE player and its virtualy the same from the feature set.

@Top_Cat some sync isues are solved with bad encded MP3s and scaleing is done better, also srt subbtitles are supported and some other things watch the changelog on elta.de

thx Doom9 for clearing this hope MediaTek isn't mad now ;)

Doom9 could we get information on wich tests in the Certification process it failed ?

[monty0815]

Can anybody confirm, that the Elta Players don`t have those Speedup/slowdown problems, because I can remember somebody saying that he has been experiencing those on his Elta8883?

Btw I tried modding my Gran Prix with a cooler, but didn`t help against those Problems, eventhough I thought it helped at first, but then yesterday I was proven wrong 3 times during a movie.

cheers, monty

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by CruNcher
@Top_Cat some sync isues are solved with bad encded MP3s and scaleing is done better, also srt subbtitles are supported and some other things watch the changelog on elta.de

The elta 8883 does NOT support subtitles. :(

@monty0815:
I dont have problems with slowdown/speedup with the elta but i think that means nothing, maybe my files are different.
Best thing would be if somebody can upload a file that has this problems for sure so somebody can try it with the elta.

[CruNcher]

Zhnujm if it would be that easy the problem we talking about happens randomly never @ the same place and if some people say it does they are wrong this problem is a technical problem also it hasn't anything todo with the CD thats being used it's just happening after some time. I tried for example allways with my Equilibrium Encode and it happened the 2nd time at another place then at the 1st and also sometimes you can watch a whole movie without it but other times not i mean i accept it as it is for 40 € less ;) but if it would happen more often i would definatly buy a DE based Player :P, thats not the case so i can live with it :)

[Doom9]

Doom9 could we get information on wich tests in the Certification process it failed ?
I very much doubt that. I've had a long discussion about the certification process, a "super" certification (including GMC and QPel) and DXn's bottom line was that they encourage manufacturers to include those features but right not cannot afford to piss off all their OEMs who are incapable of passing such a certification. They'll eventually add new features when tbe next generation of chipsets roll out (hopefully all supporting the entire MPEG-4 ASP featureset), but until then, they encourage independent testers to test for such features and use a scale that reflects the performance of a player not only w.r.t. their certification requirements, but go beyond that. For instance, a player that can only handle 1 CD DivX3 rips flawlessly would not get a very good rating in the DivX3 department.. stuff like that.

I have asked whether they'd actually publish an internal evaluation like that and the answer was a clear no, thus I deduce that they have no interest in pointing out specific flaws / problems in a player / chipset and risk pissing off their partners.

[CruNcher]

i understand thx anyway :)

[plazz2000]

I have two 2MB test clips here that I would like someone with a Mediatek 1389xx player to try out.

Both are 18 second clips encoded with XviD 1.0 Beta 3. Both use QpeL, but one has 1 consecutive B frame, the other has 2.

The video with 2 Bframes is jerky, it's not exactly unwatchable, but you can see that the playback (especially on camera pans and zooms) is not as smooth as the other clip.

I have tried encoding the same clip with 2Bframes using Koepi's old 24/06/03 devapi3 build, and it plays perfect. So the problem is only with the new XviD 1.0 Beta 3, when 2 Bframes are used.

I'm using an elta 8883, with the firmware upgrade.

If anyone would be kind enough to try these out on their player, please PM me. Thanks.

[Zhnujm]

Maybe "packet bitstream" was enabled ?
Its on by default in the new Xvid beta 3, before it was disabled.
And it causes jerkiness on Mediatek based players.

[plazz2000]

Thanks, I didn't know that. I'll encode another test clip soon and try it out.

[DMJ]

To amango !!

Where do you get the info about an upcomming update for the Medion player?

I have been looking at www.medion.de without luck (it might come down to the fact that my german is very very poor)

DMJ.

[die_leuchte]

There's no official statement from Medion at the moment. The info about the upcoming FW update came via e-Mail from Medion's support.

[DMJ]

die_leuchte

Thx for info :)

DMJ

[begu]

One question about these players. i did try to find some info about interlaced video support for these Mediatek chip players.
But I did not find accurate info.

So if I enable the interlaced encoding option in xvid, will the playback be successful? And when b-frames (1 to 3) are used, how it works then? Anyone..?

[die_leuchte]

@begu:

afaik interlaced is only used when you have an interlaced source, so it must some kind of deinterlacer integratet in the encoding tools of xvid. But there'd be no difference in the result, only some horizontal lines cause of the deinterlacing.

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).

[Doom9]

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).That is incorrect. I never tested the gran prix player but if you check this very forum you'll find reports saying multiple b-frames is no problem on MTK players. I tested a sigma based player.

[die_leuchte]

I'm sorry Doom9. thought I read sth. from you about b-frames.

The only thing I had problems with was gmc in xvid files with my Medion.



quote "..But I do have the MediaTek based Gran Prix.. ..and I'm going to run a quick test on my Gran Prix soon.."

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66108&perpage=20&highlight=Gran Prix&pagenumber=2

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by begu
One question about these players. i did try to find some info about interlaced video support for these Mediatek chip players.
But I did not find accurate info.

So if I enable the interlaced encoding option in xvid, will the playback be successful? And when b-frames (1 to 3) are used, how it works then? Anyone..?

Interlaced playback works fine on my elta 8883, unlike the other (ESS, Sigma) players.
Maybe you have to change the field order, in divx theres a button for that (top field first), in xvid you need some avisynth tweaking.
bframes >1 also work fine, as long as you have disabled "packed bitstream".

[CruNcher]

die_leuchte hmm their are no stuck problems with the Medion and 2 bf that's only because many people mix to much up and do alot of false reports the problem you are refering too is the packed bitstream problem.

[die_leuchte]

Right, I only had problems with XVID and GMC.

[CruNcher]

Yep and if you read the first Page you would have seen that it can't playback 3 Warppoint GMC as XviD and Nero Digital are useing.

[begu]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
@begu:

afaik interlaced is only used when you have an interlaced source, so it must some kind of deinterlacer integratet in the encoding tools of xvid. But there'd be no difference in the result, only some horizontal lines cause of the deinterlacing.

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).
Yes, thanks for info.
I know that the source must be interlaced to make a proper use of the interlaced option. And I have some TV captures at full PAL resolution, which are indeed interlaced.

I know this, because I can encode the captures using xvid, and they play smooth trough my xcard on my TV. So indeed the Sigma's xcard can decode interlaced material, that was encoded using xvid.

But now for the real point:
- my xcard cannot decode interlaced material (no xvid nor ffvfw) when using b-frames.
-> so could it be that Mediatek chip can decode interlaced material, when using b-frames in xvid? And maybe multiple >1 too?

[monty0815]

There is a Firmwareupdate for the Medion 7457, but no changelog.
You can get it here. (http://www.medion.de/downloads/download.pl?id=1777&type=treiber&filename=md7457.exe&lang=de)

But it seems like it's trashed some players, so use at your own risk.

cheers, monty

[die_leuchte]

Player successfully flashed! I'm going to do some test during the day.

greetz

Admiral

[DMJ]

It seems the URL for the update doesn't work :(
Someone who can upload or link to other position.

DMJ

[die_leuchte]

Medion took the update from their page, cause it seems to have some failures.

I have the feeling that my Player for example has now even more speedup/slowdown problems then before.

[monty0815]

The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by monty0815
The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

I actually killed my Gran Prix Player with the Medion Firmware ;)
so I don't think it's covered by warranty, but I'll still try to get my money back and grab an elta 8883, as those don't seem to have slowdown/speedup problems.

[amango]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

Yes. (In Germany)

But you should wait one week or two, because Medion will release another firmware that should be compatible to all players.

[LightningFire]

H&B's new player DX-3220 (http://www.hb-direct.com/EN/P_26.html)can also handle all the Divx-pro features.
Don't have it, but info about it is here (http://p2prod.ifrance.com/p2prod/les_platines_divx_de_salon.htm) and here (http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=21599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
And H&B's products are generally available in the Netherlands, Belgium and France of course. This player is already on sale at this French E-Shop (http://www.rueducommerce.fr/hifi/showdetl.cfm?product_id=2338&pl=1713|2119|2338).
Does H&B makes some players itself or would this one also be a repackaged model of another brand?
Nice thing they are explicitly promising Subtitle and DTS support in a firmware update, it is printed in their product brochure.

And this French E-Shop (http://www.multe-pass.com/boutique/fiche_produit.cfm?ref=205982#) does delivery in the EU, EEC, not really sure.
They however have no stock at the moment.

Greetings.

[oddball]

RIMAX spec says it supports HDCD and DVD Audio! And they are selling it at a special price of £89.00 inc VAT!

http://www.rimax.net/products.asp?id=66
http://www.rmxdirect.co.uk/

[oddball]

BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

[monty0815]

Originally posted by oddball
BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

That would just be the second revision of the original firmware, which was announced by Elta.

[Zhnujm]

Heres the current firmware version for the rimax player, if you want to update the page:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

The elta is still a bit ahead.

[Zhnujm]

And the Ascomtec 3004:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[die_leuchte]

And the Medion 7457

Version = 05.00.02.04
SUB-Ver = 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The elta 8883 does NOT support subtitles. :(


Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

[monty0815]

Originally posted by ronnylov
Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

Simple Answer: None.

[die_leuchte]

And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

[monty0815]

some manufacturers got srt subs working on players (none of them based on the mediatek chips), so there is still hope, eventhough srt isn't my first choice when it comes to subtitles.

So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by monty0815
So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

Yes, at least it works for me, but the buttons on the player do not work anymore.
Thanks god you can start the update with the remote control :D
And the elta firmware seems to be the newest one.

[CruNcher]

thx Zhnjum and die_leuchte for contributing those firmware infos, but die_leuchte please check next time if they aren't allready in the list :)

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

Here in Sweden we watch foreign movies with original sound and subtitles instead of the dubbed fake voices they use in many countries. Most of my divx have subtitles unless the original language is Swedish. Dubbed voices does not exist here other than on childrens movies. It does not matter that I can understand English, I still want the subtiles in Swedish just because I'm used to it. And I want to be able to switch the subtitles on or off (no matter that I always keep them on). Just don't want to reencode everything to get harcoded subtitles in the picture (takes time and decreases the quality). Then I can as well make them to DVD format if I must reencode it anyway.

[die_leuchte]

@ronnylov

some some genres I as well prefer subtitles instead of stupid dubbed voices and I'd be very very happy if the Mediatek 1389Ge/De Players would be able to play subs.

[Sharro]

Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

[monty0815]

Originally posted by Sharro
Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

No subtitle formats are supported at all, so we will just have to wait.

cheers

[oddball]

I reckon there will be subs support simply for the reason that there are so many players based on this chipset now and I can see some manufacturers being asked by their customers for subs support and the info filtering back to MT.

Well that's my logic anyhow.

[CruNcher]

An E-Mail send by an Umax Employe for the New Yamada DVX6600 DivX Player stated.

1.Vorbis-OGG audio format is under development.(Estimated end of March)

2.will support subtitles for DivX discs in the coming weeks.(Within the next few weeks)

so MediaTek is about to finish with the newest Firmware :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

So no MP4 container or AAC audio yet then?

Shame!

[oddball]

Don't give a crap about MP4 or AAC containers. More interested in soft subs, Ogg, OGM and possibly MKV at a later stage (Though may not support all file types within).

[Alxemi]

Just to tell that a firmware that will read subtitles has been anounced for the ascomtec 3004 in this spanish forum (http://www.indicedivx.com/foro/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&forumid=86&x=18&y=5)
It is suposed to appear before friday, but i think is a little soon. Anyway i will post here any news.

[Sharro]

Damn, just in time for my Ascomtec that will arrive 1st March.

This is my most wanted firmware update.

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

@Alxemi:
Sorry, my spanish is not that good :), did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?
Its the only thing im really missing.

[Alxemi]

did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?

xD Seems an easy question but it is not.
Ascomtec didn´t say anything. There´s a guy in the forum who is very near to Ascomtec and it is like the Ascomtec-bridge. He has announced other things and firmware updates and everything was (more or less) like he said. But it is NOT official word.
It seems to be very clear that the firmware will support subtitles, what is not clear is when. He said before friday but that´s tomorrow and nowadays theres nothing out there. Anyway subtitles will come; at midnight, tomorrow or the next week, and they will be more than welcome, now even more welcome when seems that OGM is a lot further that it was a few weeks before (or lost forever sniff:()...

[oddball]

My Elta has just been shipped. Weeee! Yes subs would be nice. OGM would be even nicer. I can live without MKV for now though. I just want a player that handles the basics (If you can call them that).

Subs are needed though as I watch a lot of anime and the occasional foreign movie. Luckily most subs are hardcoded in anime fansubs. ;)

[Alxemi]

...but not good news. subtitle-firmware for asctomtec has been delayed without a new release date because off "bugs in it that must be fixed".
Not a big surprise for me. As i use to say "never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you" :rolleyes:

[Alxemi]

"never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you"

Sorry for the OT but, does this sentence make any sense in english?
anyway, you understood me? :D

[Hackerjac]

I got my scott 842 the other day and was suprised over it was build on the MTK 1389DE chip, since what i had found on the net all said it was the sigma 85xx, but well seems like scott have made a new build, so here is the inf of it so you can add it to the list in the start of this trent

Scott 842:

Version 05.00.02.02
Unter-Version 00.00.02.02
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.20.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23


Damn good player :)

[CruNcher]

New (GE) Player with the newest firmware appeared :)

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36


The Problems the firmware fixes are not known for sure but one thing has been changed for sure the Zoomfactor Display now dissapears after some seconds :)

[plazz2000]

Hopefully someone can test out the new firmware for Packed Bitstream compatability.

[Alxemi]

About packed bitstream: how can i know if a video is coded with it?
avicheck doesn´t help i think.

[clayts450]

DK Digital DVD-339 (launched in the UK 1st March) details see here (http://www.dkdivx.co.uk) and review section slowly being constructed at at Area 450 (http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/dkdvd339.htm) :

I only have a November trial unit from Germany, so the firmware may differ on the production models :

MT1389GE chipset

Firmware info (accessed by pressing SETUP, then 1379):

http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/otherplayerimages/dkdvd339/dvd339screenshots/setup1379.jpg

[CruNcher]

thx clayts for the update :)

[oddball]

How do I check the firmware version on my Elta? I tried the above keys and it does nothing.

[clayts450]

Try SETUP 6688, or SETUP 8888.

[Sharro]

Does anybody know the keys for Ascomtec 3004 ?

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

also works on scott 842

[oddball]

I'm really looking forward to the next firmware version. HURRY UP MEDIATEK (and Elta)!

[Sharro]

Hurry....hurry.......... give me .srt support and I will be a great promoter....

[Sharro]

Is there anyway to get (EDIT: Mt1389DE END EDIT) based players to play mp3 files on dvd ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Of course, just burn them on dvd and play them ;)
Does it not work for you ?
I dont have problems so far with that, but it shows only the first 1000 files i think.

[monty0815]

Originally posted by Sharro
Is there anyway to get Mt1379DE based players to play mp3 files on dvd ?


Do you really mean 1379DE (which exists, but isn't an mpeg4-chip)?
I assume 1389DE is what you mean, so there should be no problems with mp3 on dvd.

cheers

[Novakane]

Hi,
My parents bought a Lenco (http://www.lenco.de) DVD-37 MPEG 4 (http://www.lenco-audiovideo.com/lib/product_detail.inc.php?arti=DVD-37 MPEG4&language=en) player. Chipset is MT1389DE. Firmware info (setup & 1379):
version 05.00.02.02
sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.00.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23

[CruNcher]

thx for the info updated

[Guest]

The latest firmware for MT1383GE players
http://www.tecnilog-service.com/soft%20dvix/download/MTT1389.zip

I upgraded my Standard SR3550 (sold in Interdiscount shops Switzerland) with this version and it fixed a number of things compare ro original, Nevir and Medion firmwares.

In pasticular my player had weird sound problem with either Nevir or Mediatek firmware all my avi files with MP3 encoded sound tracks ( which the most often case anyway) - really nasty echo espesially with a spearch paterns.

This one fixed that.

Now my FW level is like this:

VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36

Still have overheating problem after a while (3-4 hours of usage) the image starts freezing and have to do cold reset of the playrer to restore its functionality.

[clayts450]

I'd previously posted prototype firmware info for the DK DVD-339. The production models, as suspected, use a newer firmware version :

http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/otherplayerimages/dkdvd339/dvd339screenshots/production339setup1379.jpg

[langman]

I got this for a week, updated the firmware to Rimax latest version.
SETUP + 49540
Version 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version 05.00.01.06
8032 05.00.01.06
Servo 01.05.01.00
RISC 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23

Nice player, Someone post a thread asking about the UK (220V)plug fitted. The people advised him to buy a step-up transformer from 110V - 220V. I noticed on the back panel that it can handle any AC voltage from 100- 250 Volt 50/60 Hz. So it should be OK for the USA. Just change the plug.

What I would like in a future update is a "RANDOM" function for audio CD's also with MP3's. The reset button on the remote is too easy to press, a combination of 2 buttons will be great. Remote control distance very limiting.
:angry:

[CruNcher]

@Guest

see my first post (previous page) ;)

@clayts450

changed it :)

@langman

it's allready listed, do you remember the non updated firmware rev ? :)

[Reptile-X]

Hmmm, you guys get more info than on Yamada DVX-6600

[Setup] and than "Prefence page" (last icon) after that hit 1369
and this is what i get nothing more :confused:

Version 05.00.02.03
SubVer 0B.00.00.02

I did try other codes i saw here in every menu but those are not working for Yamada DVX-6600.
Anyone knows the code for other information?

[CruNcher]

huh strange maybe the firmware was more adjusted to their needs ? could you post some pictures of the interface ? and what Chip does it use the MT1389GE or MT1389DE ? thx for the info :)

[Reptile-X]

I think it is a 1389DE, I can’t unscrew and open the player to see the chip, it has a warranty sticker on it :(

But for pictures from the player interface you can take a look here (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/875933) on my post about Yamada DVX-6600 (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/875933)

[langman]

@ CruNcher

The original as received firmware is as follows.
Version 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version 00.00.01.06
8032 05.00.01.06
Servo 01.05.01.00
RISC 05.00.01.06
DSP 03.03.00.14

It look like if the firmware menu page is access with 49540 its a DE based chip and with 1369 its the GE? Maybe I am wrong.

[CruNcher]

@langman

are you sure that only DSP and RISC where updated that's somehow unlikely that even not the SUB-Version changed hmmm i changed it but im not so sure that this is correct.

[langman]

@ CruNcher

Yes, I noticed that only the RISC and DSP changed. The upgrade was very quick, less that a minute, so it could be that it only updated that 2 files. If it fixed some bugs I don't know, because I did not discovered any bugs before I done the upgrade. Was hoping for a random play function.

[Zhnujm]

The Rimax should already support a random function. Im somewhat sure because i already tried the firmware with my elta.
Normally you can cycle trough the different playback modes with the repeat button.

[langman]

Thanks for the info. If I understand you correctly you tested the Rimax firmware in your Elta and it worked. On the Rimax with the latest Rimax firmware the repeat button only cycle through All or Single. No Random function. Anyhow the good news is that if it worked on the Elta it will also work with a new firmware release from Rimax "hopefully in the near future". Can I use the Elta 8883 firmware on the Rimax (MT1389DE) player. Don't want to kill it, was not easy "$$$" to get the player delivered in the Middle East.

[Zhnujm]

Yes, i tried the rimax firmware with the elta but i would not recommend this. Theres no gurantee that it works the other way. I only tried it because i have a damaged second player that i cannot use for other things anymore.
And now it does not read any CD/DVD because i flashed the xoro 400pro firmware on this player...

[langman]

@ Zhnujm

Thanks for the info and advise, I will wait for Rimax's new firmware.

[monty0815]

Don't know if it is of any importance, but the Neuneo Player has a MTK1389EE chipset. does anybody have information, on what the differences are to the other chipsets?

http://www.neuneo.com/shtmls/divxdvd/

Based on next generation MPEG4 Chipset --- MTK 1389EE, MTK1389EE is DivX™ Certified and support raw MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG-4 Avi, DivX™* (all version includes ver 3.11, 4, 5 and up), Xvid, VBR MP3, WMA, Jpeg, PhotoCD, HDCD, burn your favourite PC format files into CDR and watch on big screen TV!

[Hackerjac]

Found some inf about Denver 158 on another board, seems like they have changed the build and now put in the MTK 1389DE chip insted

05.00.02.02 VERSION
00.00.00.01 SUB-VER
05.00.02.02 8032
01.07.00.00 SERVO
05.00.02.02 RISC
03.03.00.23 DSP

[sneaker333]

I have recently purchased the Rimax Divx Player - I was swayed to it from the other MT1389 based players available in the UK due to the fact that the specs clearly state AAC audio support. All the other MT1389 appear to list WMA support instead of AAC, whereas the Rimax listed AAC and had an absence of WMA in its list of supported formats. However, I find that the player appears to play WMA format instead of AAC just like all the others despite trying various file extension (such as .MP4, .M4A or .AAC). Has anyone else had any luck with this. I have also found that the player doesn't really like any of the brands of DVD-Rs or DVD-RWs that I have despite the fact that they are generally regarded as very good (Verbatim, Apple, Ritek). I find that I appear to get errors in the data stream that causes random corrupt video sequences .... if I rewind and replay a problematic section then it will play it fine, and then screw up elsewhere. There doesn't appear to be this kind of problem using CD-R or CD-RW. Is anyone else finding this or what make of media are you using.

Cheers

[CavalloPazzo]

I've just received a doshima 2038... the seller told it was a elta 8883 clone, but I'm suspecting it has a ge chip because it has display on the right :( ... I can't find where this information is stored... Can someone help me?
I've just watched a full movie... at the beginning it showed some speedup, slowdown, but only at beginning (first minute), but I experienced a little audio / video desynch (vbr mp3) so I'd like to update firmware...but don't know where to download and if I can broken my player (on first post it's written so).
Thanks

[Sharro]

Could somebody try to confirm the change of DENVER 158 to chip MTK 1389DE ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

@CavalloPazzo:
Is it this player: http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3083306734&category=27730
It looks really like an elta 8883. But you say the display is on the right side :confused:

A good sign for a DE Player is if it has color settings (brightness,contrast,..) in the setup, i have not seen a GE player that has such settings.

[CavalloPazzo]

Yes, it has brightness and color control... but maybe it's only question of firmware :confused: .
Maybe i'll open to see...

[ropmip]

I have a DENVER DVD 158divx, and I am almost sure it has a MEDIATEK 1389DE inside (I haven't open it). I've checked the firmware version
and it's the same as elta's 8883 firmware update:
05.00.02.02 VERSION
00.00.00.01 SUB-VER
05.00.02.02 8032
01.07.00.00 SERVO
05.00.02.02 RISC
03.03.00.23 DSP
I guess I could download ELTA's Firmware to "update" my player as it would only change background picture. Am I right?
The screen captures I've seen from other 1389DE based players are the same as DENVER 158 so...

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by ropmip
I guess I could download ELTA's Firmware to "update" my player as it would only change background picture. Am I right?
The screen captures I've seen from other 1389DE based players are the same as DENVER 158 so...

Maybe you are right but maybe you loose the front buttons or the remote control.
And if both happens the same time you cannot flash it back....

[Mirko]

I HAVE AMSTRAD DX3016 DVD PLAYER WITH MEDIATEK DE CHIP LIKE ELTA 8883,
AND I FOUND NEW UPDATE ON http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html WITH MTK.BIN FILE DATE 13.02.2004.
ITS THAT NEW UPDATE OR SOMETHING ELSE ?

I BADLY NEED SUBTITLE SUPPORT(DIVX) FOR MY AMSTRAD DX3016!!! :confused: :confused:

[plazz2000]

Will this firmware upgrade work on elta 8883?

Anyone brave enough to try it?

[Mirko]

it is not that simple.
I while only update my amstrad dx 3016 if that upgrade support subtitle in divx movie.
Everything else is not important for my.
BECAUSE that i ask you what is that on page [url]http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html

HOW I NOW ELTA 8883 BIOS ON AMSTRAD DX3016 WORK BUT REVERSE ? I DON'T NOW.

[monty0815]

There is a newer firmware available for the Ascomtek 3004 which should re-enable the DTS encoding (or something, my spanish isn't all that good ;-)). It's available through the spanish Ascomtec page.
The change should be like this:

Versión:.....05.00.02.02
Sub.ver:.....00.00.02.02
8032:........05.00.02.02
Servo:.......01.11.40.00
Risc:.........05.00.02.02
DSP:.........03.03.00.33

no changelog, but the MTK.bin is dated 29.3.2004.

cheers, monty

[oddball]

Monty does it play any sort of subtitles? Got any divx with .srt or .sub?

[monty0815]

Don't know for sure.
I don't have an Ascomtec, just read it in a spanish board, but they didn't talk about subs there.
I'm waiting for subtitle support on the elta 8883. The Ascomtec firmware probably works for me, but it's not worth the risk, until I find out that a firmware definatly supports subs.

cheers, monty

[Zhnujm]

They even removed the update, because of some dying players if i can trust the google translation of some spanish forum.
Also it seems that it does not support subtitles.

[Mirko]

How I now , neither one of dvd(divx) player with mediatek DE chip dont support divx subtitle.

[Humus]

I just got Apex DVX-2102 player. Can't open it, but I think it based on DE chipset. Firmware version is:
VERSION = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??
I'm also pretty sure it's the same manufacturer that making Yamada 6600 - same rear panel, same front panel buttons on the top of the player, same firmware version...all except sub-version and some cosmetic changes on front panel. Of course there isn't a sign of this player on Apex website - I think they jsut used Apex logo to sell it in our region- Middle East. Since I couldn't buy Yamada here, I got this one. No hope for firmware upadate for this player, so I wanted to ask your opinion - may i try upcoming Yamada firmware. Subtitles are pretty important to me, and reencoding movies with hardwired subs as you all know is a pain:). I don't know if it will be safe cause of Sub-version difference and I can't tell what Servo etc are.
Thank you in advance.

[Mirko]

NEW BIOS update(06.04.2004) for AMSTRAD DX3016 (MEDIATEK DE CHIP)
ON PAGE
http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html
DOES ENYONE NOW THAT THIS UPDATE SUPORT SUBTITLE IN DIVX MOVIE BECAUSE
MY ITALINO IS EQUAL ZERO

[Zhnujm]

Amstrad DX3016 Update

Version:.....05.00.01.06
Sub.ver:.....00.00.01.06
8032:........05.00.01.06
Servo:.......01.05.01.00
Risc:........05.00.02.02
DSP:.........03.03.00.33

Support for DivX Audio, but cant find subtitles :o

[CavalloPazzo]

it say it only fix A/V synch problems

[CruNcher]

thx btw i also have a update for you :) 1st successes in Reverse Engineering the MediaTek Firmware have been achived it's now possible to modify and flash it back to the player :)

[CruNcher]

Again news :)
the first MediaTek Based firmware with .srt subbtitle support has found it's way to the net based on BBK Standalones like the Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 http://forumdreamzone.free.fr/Dv967/967FR-1-0402%81inew%20software%20with%20subtiltle).bin just rename it to MTK.bin and the normal burn procedures for DE Player it's not known yet if it can be used on GE based player also and still their is the eprom problem i can't guarantee that it will work for your player and i take no responsibility for what you doing with it.


However it also looks like this firmware has introduced new bugs :

- extended characters do not show in subtitles ; extended characters (as in the ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1) charset) are absolutely necessary for the use of accents in French, German, Portuguese and Spanish texts.
- screen display is excentered to the top (moved up)
- fast forward on simple DiVX turns out to have become limited to x4 even if the OSD shows x32
- zoom 1/2 does not work anymore and acts as a zoom x2
- finally, some people complained that the screen display permanently autoswitches from 4/3 to 16/9 (large) and back from 16/9 to 4/3 leading to a distorted image on 4/3 TV's, but i suspect this one was already present in the former firmware.
Thanks very much for transmitting these infos to your technical team.
We are eagerly awaiting any possible fix for these introduced bugs.

Best regards,
Rod

[Zhnujm]

Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 are all GE based.
I dont think its a good idea to try this firmware on DE based players...

[CruNcher]

Zhnujm are you sure ?

[amango]

@Cruncher

Do you have tested it on one GE-based player? The firmware seems to be bigger as usual (over 1100 kb). Or are there any reports about successfully upgrading the firmware?

[Zhnujm]

@Cruncher:
No, not really, i read it at this forum:
http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24467

Theres also a discussion about the firmware, but i cannot read french :rolleyes: , and the google translation is awful.

Maybe some frech speaking people here ?
http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=23969&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600

[CruNcher]

@Zhnujm

even if that's the case it doesn't matter anymore finaly i have the evidence :) that GE and DE are made from the same Source Tree by a Seller



@Pixies II : mon contact m'a répondu que le firmware était à la fois adapté pour les DE et les GE, donc a priori les 2 cas que l'on a observé ici sont dus à un mauvais respect de la procédure.

Ci-dessous copie de la lettre envoyée à BBK :

After multiple beta testing of the new firmware for Atacom DV967 on our popular forum (Forum.surdvd.com), it appears that the firmware 967FR-1-0402 has solved the wma support, and some asynchronisation problems, and has introduced the ability of reading subtitles and we thank you very much for this.

However it also looks like this firmware has introduced new bugs :

- extended characters do not show in subtitles ; extended characters (as in the ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1) charset) are absolutely necessary for the use of accents in French, German, Portuguese and Spanish texts.
- screen display is excentered to the top (moved up)
- fast forward on simple DiVX turns out to have become limited to x4 even if the OSD shows x32
- zoom 1/2 does not work anymore and acts as a zoom x5
- finally, some people complained that the screen display permanently autoswitches from 4/3 to 16/9 (large) and back from 16/9 to 4/3 leading to a distorted image on 4/3 TV's, but i suspect this one was already present in the former firmware.

Thanks very much for transmitting these infos to your technical team.
We are eagerly awaiting any possible fix for these introduced bugs.

Best regards,
Rod


@Pixies II : mon contact m'a répondu que le firmware était à la fois adapté pour les DE et les GE, donc a priori les 2 cas que l'on a observé ici sont dus à un mauvais respect de la procédure.

translated:
my contact answered me that the firmware was both for the DE and the GE, so the 2 case we observed here are probably due to a disrespect of the procedure


i'll update my Medion now even if it fails i build on Pandora anyways :)

It Failed he's dead goodbye Medion 7575

[Zhnujm]

Better have a look if that player/remote control look similar to yours, theres no need for a player if the remote control does not work anymore...or even worse, the dvd drive.

[CruNcher]

@Zhnujm

but you know whats cool :)
i have a test case for Pandora now :D

@amango

it killed my Medion 7575

[amango]

Medion seems to have a new firmware for the MD 7457, but haven't released it yet.

Look here (http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70794) (in German).

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by CruNcher
Again news :)
the first MediaTek Based firmware with .srt subbtitle support has found it's way to the net based on BBK Standalones like the Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 http://forumdreamzone.free.fr/Dv967/967FR-1-0402%81inew%20software%20with%20subtiltle).bin just rename it to MTK.bin and the normal burn procedures for DE Player it's not known yet if it can be used on GE based player also and still their is the eprom problem i can't guarantee that it will work for your player and i take no responsibility for what you doing with it.

Great news. Has anyone tested if it support SMI format or VobSub subtitle (ifo/idx/sub)?

Thanks.

[Sharro]

Is there dates known for a similar firmware from Elta or Ascomtec ?

All the best

Sharro

[CruNcher]

it looks like the Firmware is for MT1389 FE player

What does this say to us: Never trust a Seller

[JuanCC]

I have just bought a Divx Player ( SunsTech ) with MT1389 GE chip and I would like to know if they ( Mediatek )are planning to take out a firmware to be able to see subtitles.

Thanks , sorry my english ...

[oddball]

I emailed Elta about this FE issue and they said that the Elat 8883 firmware was still being worked on.

[JuanCC]

Thanks oddball , do you know if they also have planned to take out a menu upgrade to view long filenames ?.

[oddball]

All he said was an update was being worked on (Could be bluster of course).

[Zhnujm]

The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.

[mactop]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.
Hi
Where can i read more about it ?

[Zhnujm]

Thats all i know, it was posted at www.dvdboard.de:
I wonder how long MediaTek needs to "research" the Xvid problems. :rolleyes:

Original geschrieben von Thomas3k
I put the first Firmware that support SRT subtitles on our server.
(Supports SRT subtitles, name of subtitle should be the same like movie
so file.srt and file.avi , will play automatically, use subtitle key to disable it.)
Fixes some small issues like onscreen Time/Zoom display,has latest codec available for the used MTK chipset.
XVID issues are still under research from MTK company, if they did solve this we will release another firmware immediately.
(For Information why XVID movies could make trouble please see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=72899
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=67028

Download www.yamada.de/ftp/dvx6600b1.zip
Instructions: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_eng.pdf
Anleitung: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_ger.pdf

Cheers and have a nice weekend,

Thomas

[mactop]

Thank You !
And i wonder if there is anybody brave enough to update Elta 8883 with this FW :D Those players got the same chip version so it might work :confused: :)

[oddball]

I'm presuming Thomas works for Yamada? If so I find it funny that they should use my post about my workaround for removing packed bitstream from XviD as a reference. ;)

I cannot believe it's taking them so long to make a fix in the firmware. If I see a fix to playback XviD correctly appear before the summer I'll be very surprised. In fact I have a sneaky feeling Mediatek will dump making new firmwares for this chip and move onto the next.

[Zhnujm]

I dont think there will be new chips from Mediatek in the next time.
But everything seems to take a LOOONG time in this business. :rolleyes:

[Humus]

Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)

[romravan]

Yesterday firmware for the reader Amstrad 3016DX has arrived..... but the readers with number of series 311,and some with seriale number 312, are all dead.......

Version 05.00.03.06
Sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.03.06
Servo 01.11.40.00
Risc 05.00.03.07
Dsp 03.03.00.99

without responsibility from part mine

[Zhnujm]

Do you know wich serials do work ?

[romravan]

There are four seriali numbers:
311=NO!
312= ?
401=yes
402=yes


without responsibility from part mine
sorry for my bad english......

[mactop]

Originally posted by Humus
Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)
My elta 8883 accept that file from Yamada 6600 but im not brave enough to press "PLAY" key to update FW :rolleyes: :p

[romravan]

sorry....the amstrad 3016dx firmware upgrade it makes to recognize the subtitles.srt and divx with audio wma.......

[Hackerjac]

my scott 842 whit mtk 1389DE chip also accept the file after i renamed it to MTK.bin, but i'm not brave enough either to hit the play button yet

[Zhnujm]

@romravan:
Thanks, i think i wont try it with my elta, the serial begins with 310...


@others:
I dont think you will have a working player if you try to update your elta with the yamada firmware.
Even if the player will work - if the remote control or the buttons on the player are different you wont have a chance to flash it back or use it.
If the problem with some of the amstrad players are solved i will try the amstrad firmware, it is fully compatible with the elta (remote control,buttons)

[Zhnujm]

Theres now a second update for the amstrad, i think for the players that failed before.
So i tried this with my elta and it works.
Finally .srt subtitles, but very limited. Not centered, white text with no outline and if you use ff/rew they stop working.
And it seems the default video setting is NTSC.

[Zhnujm]

It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :) Does this mean you can now manually alter the AR of any Mpeg4 video stream?

Cheers

[romravan]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

but the xvid with GMC..?
yes or not?

[Zhnujm]

@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd.

@romravan:
No change, Xvid+GMC and Packet Bitstream with more than 1 bframe still do not work.

[oddball]

Dammit!

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd. This is still excellent news. I was not expecting such an implementation to take place using the AVI container.

Have you tried generating anamorphic encodes using 3ivX and FFvfw? Or does anamorphic signalling only work when Xvid's 4CC is present?

I'm interested that AR adjustment is able to work with cropped encodes. Have you tested using 720x480/576 with a 2.35:1 image and with the mattes left in?

And... does the 16:9 TV output setting work correctly?

Sorry about all the questions!

Cheers