seems the elta 8883 is out now

[Doom9]

http://shop.plus.de/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/de/-/EUR/Storefront-KatalogID;sid=lMIO02dtp2IMEVigtMHPzwPojm34HC3cKzg=?KatalogID=Z0349B&KID=22200102

I wonder if they ship abroad..

[SeeMoreDigital]

It's nice to see from elta's specification (http://www.elta.de/english/artikel.asp?Artikel=8883+MP4&Artikel1=8883&x=68&y=17), that this player supports DVD-Audio!

I wonder what else it can do, that the competition (Grand Prix & Ascomtec DVD-3004) can't?

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Seems it got one today ;)
Plays pretty much the same as the grand prix.
Does not play xvid gmc, divx audio and .srt subtitles (have not tried others)

Definitly the best divx player i had (and i have had a Sigma and an ESS player)

[Doom9]

elta has told me about some future plans for alternative audio and container formats but I don't have the mail with me now. as for DVD audio I'm still trying to get official confirmation.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

does it support b-frames?

[Zhnujm]

I just made some tests with Xvid 1.0 and it cannot play files with bframes>1 smooth.
DivX with bframes is ok.

[bond]

XviD 1.0b1 is buggy and i wouldnt use it for testing! try some older dev-api3 builds

[Zhnujm]

I have only tried 1.0 because it was the same with older builds :)
But i have not used a devapi build before, maybe i try this.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Zhnujm,

Are you able to confirm the chipset in the player. Is it the MediaTek MT1389?

Can it play DVD Audio?

Can it play RAW Mpeg1 and/or 2 encodes

Can it recognise the MP4 container?

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

It is the MediaTek 1389 chipset.
Plays of course mpeg1/2 files, but no mp4.
Dont know if ot supports DVD-Audio, i dont have such a disk :rolleyes:

[mcentee]

Well, I nearly made a "mistake" and ordered the Elta - but this by only browsing the www.alphaundomega.com website (Austrian). Its all in German and I don't speak the lingo.

Try it if you want one, and see if they deliver - I didn't put in any credit card details etc like ususal but I got a confirmation with a UK address.

At 199 Euros + delivery I thought I would wait a while until the MTK settles down a bit - see what the support is like.

[Zhnujm]

btw, it does NOT support DVD-Audio, even if its written (in really big letters) on the package.

[Doom9]

does NOT support DVD-AudioThought so.. DVD audio capable players are still in the upper price regions. Interestingly enough, I never got an answer to that specific question from elta (I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list).

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yep, the DVD audio part in Elta original link has now been removed!

Shame really.

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by Doom9
(I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list).

I would be happy if a simple subtitle solution (.srt or something ) is on that list...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Doom9
...I do have something about their future firmware plans though.. @SeeMoreDigital: MP4 is not on that list). Bummer!

My plans for world domination have been scuppered again!

Cheers

[Doom9]

there's WMA in AVI (4 weeks), Ogg media (2 months), srt subs (I presume.. and I didn't get a date) and as for 3 warppoint GMC, they're looking into that without a timeframe.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Doom9
there's WMA in AVI (4 weeks), Ogg media (2 months), srt subs (I presume.. and I didn't get a date) and as for 3 warppoint GMC, they're looking into that without a timeframe. WMA in AVI! I thought quite a few standalones could spin WMA streams anyway. Can your existing Elta not do this?

How difficult is this to do. I wonder if 6Ch WMA streams in an AVI would work too!

I think it would be quite cool to have both WMV and WMA streams in an AVI.

Cheers

[Doom9]

I don't think I have a single DivX with WMA audio (I did a few movies with it.. and while I'm not an audio freak I could definitely hear the bad audio quality so I quickly gave up on that). I'll see if I find something to throw at my players (yes, I got the Gran Prix :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Doom9
yes, I got the Gran Prix :) Blimey... That was quick!

[Buddy Casino]

Do two 5.1 AC3 streams in one avi file work? I encoded lots of movies that way. Are there problems with sync/muxing/switching audio tracks? Unfortunately the elta is sold out at Plus, but as soon as they get fresh ones... :D

[Doom9]

2x AC3 was possible using the old elta player so I'd be very surprised if it didn't work in the new one. I'll get the player for testing but I have a codec comparison to run first so don't expect any results before 2004. But I do have the MediaTek based Gran Prix which afaik is capable of 2xAC3 so I wouldn't expect any problems (and I'm going to run a quick test on my Gran Prix soon, I still have the files I used on my elta 8882)

[Zhnujm]

Problems with Xvid and bframes are solved with a firmware update.
And 2xAC3 works also of course.

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by Doom9
Thought so.. DVD audio capable players are still in the upper price regions. Interestingly enough, I never got an answer to that specific question from elta (I do have something about their future firmware plans though..

Do we have any more information about the when DVD-Audio support will be added back into the player? I was looking forward to getting a few DVDA disks

Thanks

[Zhnujm]

It was written on the package of the newer models that DVD-Audio support can not be added with a firmware update.

[Top_Cat]

That is a shame, I wonder why it was originally advertised as having this feature then? surely it was working at some point for them to initally release it saying that DVDA was support

[Top_Cat]

If the Mediatek-chip is apparently able to decode DVD-Audio (at least Mediatek says so at their home page) why is it that the Elta 8883 can't play it?

Any idea's?

[SeeMoreDigital]

I suspect it down to licensing!