Advice needed on backing up LOTR:TT Extended

[buzzby]

Hello

I currenlt use DVDShrink to backup all my DVD's and have found this to be an very good and quick way of backing up DVD's but now i want to backup the lord of the rings two towers extended edition. For those who havn't seen the dvd the film is spread across 2 disks.

I am wondering what would be the best way to get these 2 disks onto 1 DVD. I only want the film and the english soundtrack with the subtitles for the non english parts.


Thanks in advance for the help



Buzz

[Doom9]

well.. dvdshrink allows you to join multi-disc movies or put two (or more) movies on one DVD±R disc. Just follow my dvd shrink guide and you'll get there.

[zande]

I dont think it's a good idea to backup 2 full DVD9's to 1 single DVD5!!!!
You're gonna need to compress the video BELOW 50% percent, resulting in terrible quality!

Actually I myself did a backup of LOTR TTT Extended (PAL) a few days ago in Shrink.
One important thing i noticed is that both FOTR and TTT got 15-20 minutes of fan-credits in the end of the film/credits. Throw it away and you won't need to compress the video at all (requires that you do it in Re-Author mode without the menues).
Fitted EXACTLY on 2 DVD-R's.

FOTR: Got a 2-disc version with DD5.1-sound and NO video compression (Had to extract the last minutes of disc 1 and move it over to disc 2, to have it fit perfectly)
TTT: Got a 2-discs version with DTS-sound and NO video compression.

Feels like perfect backups to me at least! :D
Bummer that the DTS sound didn't fit in FOTR though.....

[doktor motte]

I have also made a backup of LOTR:TTT SEE (2 DVDs) with CCE and 4pass to one DVD+R with only german ac3 (untouched) and only the forced subs burned into the video (via AviSynth and VobSub).

And I have to say: It's nearly perfect quality (in other words amazing), also when compare to the original one.

I cut the fan-credits out and also the normal credits (about 9:30min), came out with 206 min pure film in stunning quality :D :D

[Tonio Roffo]

* off topic *

I'm glad I live in Belgium. Couldn't even start to imagine translated english movies into dutch.

Guess if you grow up with it you get used to it...

Don't you prefer watching in English with german subs?

Once saw prince of bel-air in french... that's just sad... even if you are fluent in french!

[doktor motte]

@Tonio Roffo: I also look movies in english but then without german subs, coz my english isn't so bad (i hope :p )

But most the time i look them in german, so normally no need for subs. :D

[AtaqueEG]

I did TTT Extended version last night with DVD Shrink into one DVD-R
I ripped and encoded the first disc, movie only, DD 5.1 and spanish subtitles, deep analysis, 93% quality.
Second disc: movie only, cut credits when they start with the medium-sized fonts (after the "important" credits with larger fonts), DD 5.1, spanish subtitles, 100% quality (no need for deep analysis).
Loaded both encodes separatedly and performed deep analysis to each one.
Reauthored both to one DVD-R, 46% quality.

Looks awesome.
You have to really look hard to notice artifacts. You DO notice some of them, but they are very few and far between. Consider that this is a 3+ hour movie.
Not even on the Helms Deep scenes which are very dark or the forest one.
Perfect for my everyday needs, at least on my 30 inch TV.
I'll check it on my friends wide flatscreen.

[AtaqueEG]

Originally posted by zande
[B]I dont think it's a good idea to backup 2 full DVD9's to 1 single DVD5!!!!
You're gonna need to compress the video BELOW 50% percent, resulting in terrible quality!


They are not "full" movie-wise.
They have four commentaries each, along with the DTS track and the DD 5.1 one.
I think you can ditch the commentaries and the DTS.
Just keep the Dolby Digital (I doubt you can notice a difference).
Removing this both discs can be encoded almost perfectly (and if you cut the credits on the second one, perfectly).

Putting both of them to one DVD-R does require a 46% compression, more of less. But the results are awesome. It doesn't look half bad.
This proves that you can compress a lot of a well-mastered movie and it will still look good.
I have had movies where I get 85% compression and they don't look as good.
I don't think it depends on that.
Try it yourself.