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killer099
26th November 2003, 18:46
hello

Iīm using CloneDVD to convert dvd-9 to dvd-5, and it works very well,
at least when I play the burned disk on my computer with PowerDVD XP.
When I play it on the standalone player (Philips something), Iīve noticed that when there is a scene-change the film "stops" (or whatever to call it) for about 200ms or so. Itīs hardly noticed when youīre unaware of it, but Iīm very confused why it is so?

I havenīt play the whole movies yet, but Iīm wondering if someone knows anything about this?



(sorry for by bad english, Iīm Swedish you know :-)

mrbass
26th November 2003, 19:38
Everytime there is a scene change? So your talking about 500 times per movie?

writersblock29
27th November 2003, 00:29
@killer099

It sounds like a compatibilty problem between your media and your set top box. While many set tops will play recordable media, they don't always do it flawlessly. If you have a burner that will enable you to finalize your DVDR as a DVD ROM (which studio DVDs are generaly recognized as), you may profit from giving that a try; my experience has been that doing this will almost always clear up any reading problems you may have.

I wouldn't say that there's an actual problem with the media itself -- if that were the case, then the glitches you mentioned would be apparent when playing your disk on your computer. And so long as the disk plays fine on the computer, your burning software isn't *necessarily* to blame, either. (Depending on how that software formats the files -- some set top boxes only recognise UDF 1.02. Also, is the disk recorded as "track at once?" If so, switch it to "disk at once," which will close the session and increase compatibility.)

So long as you're not using a Sony burner, you can try downloading DVD Bitsetter (I'm not sure what the link is, but typing this into your browser will undoubtably give you some place to start), which will let you change the default of your burner so that it always finalizes the disk as DVD ROM. If that solves your problem, there y'go! If not, then at least we'll have eliminated that possibilty.

It's where I'd start, though!

Good luck!

Kedirekin
27th November 2003, 03:40
It sounds like a layer break [sic] to me. Play the original disk in your player and see if it has a pause at the same place.

killer099
27th November 2003, 19:33
writersblock29: Iīm using Nere Express which I got included with my plextor-recorder. Iīve looked through the few settings there were, and couldnīt find anything about finalize the disc as a DVD ROM, or even about finalize at all......

I will look for that "DVD Bitsetter" and see if that helps....thanks!

writersblock29
28th November 2003, 05:03
@killer099

You betcha, bro. Not every version of Nero will let you change this setting -- but on the ones that do, it'll be found under the "disk info" option. Bitsetter sounds like your best option if your version of Nero isn't one of the few that allow DVD ROM finalizing. There's also DVDINFOPRO, which does the same thing... but the free version is ad-supported. I have that on my system, though, and haven't noticed anything as far as pesky pop-up adds while browsing the Net. I mention it, however, for two reasons: the first, in case you have trouble finding BITSETTER -- or that it for some reason won't work with your drive -- and the second, so that at least you have options open to you!

Changing this setting has allowed my copies to play flawlessly in set tops that don't support DVD+-R playback at all, and why not? If you're burning to +R, the reflectivity of the reading surface is the same as a DVD9, and *most* studio DVDs are recognized as DVD ROM. My copies even read perfectly on my computer's DVD ROM drive (which previously didn't recognise the recordable media at all). The only downside is that you'll have to re-record anything done on write-once media (easy enough -- just drag and drop the VIDEO_TS folder onto your desktop, then re-burn as DVD ROM). If you've got stuff on rewritable media, I've heard that BITSETTER can be used to simply reformat that particular disk without erasing the contents. I haven't tried that yet, though, since I rarely record stuff that I intend to keep on rewritable media.

If this doesn't work, you could try running your files through IFOedit and examine the titlesets for "layer breaks." You usually don't see more than one or two of them in a typical studio DVD... but as Kedirekin observed, they sometimes cause problems such as "pauses" in the video, and just may be worth looking at if the playback problems continue.

Hope this helps!

zande
28th November 2003, 11:50
Originally posted by mrbass
Everytime there is a scene change? So your talking about 500 times per movie?

Killer099: You didn't answer the question from MrBass.
I'm curious too..... is there really a short pause every scene change??? or perhaps every chapter???

writersblock29
1st December 2003, 04:37
@killer099

Did that work for you? Any problems getting DVDINFOPRO (or) DVD BITSETTER to work? If not, then did it fix your playback problems?

MikelGee
27th December 2003, 01:50
writersblock29:

I'm having the same problem and was wondering what burning software give you the option to burn as a dvd-rom. Also, where can I find the "dvd bitsetter" program. I've searched for it, but all the links seem to be dead. Lastly, when I try to use your method with dvdinfopro, i get the "not a ricoh drive" error. I'm currently using a OPTORITE DVD+/-RW DD0203.

Any help with software, drive brands, and utilities would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You!

writersblock29
27th December 2003, 07:33
@MikelGee

Well, let's see... To begin, some drives don't allow for the bitsetting switchover using the original firmware that the drive came equiped with. In my case (I have a Sony DRU-120A), I had to flash my firmware with that of a RICOH drive, so that my system thinks that this is the type of drive that I'm using. Here's a link that'll go into more detail, and describe the method that I used.

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/174580.php

But before getting carried away, if you're using Nero 6, try downloading the newest updates: Nero 6 now finalizes a DVD video project as a DVD ROM in drives that support it; DVDINFOPRO may not work with your drive, but that's not necessarilly a sign that your drive can't do this on its own. Even if you're not running Nero 6, the updates serve as a fully operational demo -- so if the download time doesn't kill ya, it's worth a shot!

COPYTODVD was the software that I was using when I first enabled this switch, and may also automatically switch it for you (there is a fully-functional demo available on their site, if you want to try that out). Using the original Sony firmware (on my drive), COPYTODVD only yeilded the same problems as Nero in that the freezing... or "stuttering"... from DVD Shrink (or Recode, for that matter) generated files continued. Once flashing with RICOH firmware, I haven't had a single problem since, and my drive automatically finalizes as DVD ROM. But, again, the drive you're using may not need flashed to work this way.

In the very least, I hope this offers you some ideas!

killer099
10th January 2004, 16:17
writersblock29: Hello again, sorry I havenīt answered, I totally forgot about this thread. I found the BITSETTER software, but it didnīt work on my plextor-burner. A error-message appeared telling me that I had a incompatible burner(like a SONY).

I donīt know if I mentioned that the most of my movies works great, but at least 3 of my 25 movies are "faulty".