DVD+RW 4X Burning

[Ac3Dc3]

i had trouble searching for this, so if some1's asked b4, then just point me to the post :rolleyes:

can i burn 2.4x DVD+RW Media at 4x [with no degredation] like i can burn 4x DVD+Rs at 8x ? - its just that im having trouble finding 4x DVD+RW Media. any help is appreciated,

Ac3Dc3.:devil:

edited typos

[Doom9]

not that I'm aware of. It might also be a technical problem. 4x and 8x DVD+Rs are virtually identical (I believe the only changes are in the allowable error margins), but I haven't heard that the same would apply to 2.4x and 4x +RWs (be wary of the sign.. at the end of your post you said 4x DVD-RW media ;)

[alexnoe]

4x and 8x DVD+Rs are virtually identical The sensitivity of the Dye of 8x discs will be higher.

It it were really easy, then other upcoming 8x drives would also support 8x writing to 4x discs ;) As far as I know, you need a powerful laser to write to 4x discs at 8x
its just that im having trouble finding 4x DVD-RW Media. any help is appreciated,After the latest media tests in the C'T, the only rewriteable media you should use is Mitsubishi 2x DVD-RW media, until some firmwares get fixed :devil:

[Doom9]

I think I recall Philips 4x DVD+RW being okay.

[alexnoe]

I bought some, and they were made by Ricoh :( And still, if you compare the error rates after 10 cycles as well as after 1000 cycles, even the Philips discs looked bad, compared to Mitsubishi

[Ac3Dc3]

at the end of your post you said 4x DVD-RW media

:rolleyes: i guess that coulda confused the post a bit*, sorry, edited the post accordingly

thanks for the info guys. so i think ill wait untill my local radioshack has some 4x Philips or Mitsubishi DVD+RWs, and i won't try to burn my 2.4x's too fast ;)

Ac3Dc3. :devil:

* alexnoe - my mistake got me some info about DVD-RWs, cheers !

[alexnoe]

This shitty Ricoh thingie is unreadable after the 4th rewrite cycle :angry: I'm glad I only bought 2 pieces of this crap (and 10 Verbatim DVD-RW)

[Doom9]

hmm... I can't locate my c't but I thought the Philips disc had Philips as manufacturer code.
Unreadable after 4 cycles is indeed bad. I have some 1x Verbatim -RWs as well and they've been pretty good. After 10 cycles they're still readable (but I always fill them up, not like c't in their tests), and yet, while I can read them on the PC, the standalone is beginning to display the usual "can't read disc properly" (maybe we should christen that the Princo effect?) effect. The 1x Ritek -RWs also exhibited the same problem. So far the 2x Riteks -RWs are okay but I haven't used them quite as extensively as the 1x variety and these days I have less reason to use RW discs (data transport is much more convenient using a portable 2.5" USB2 HD).

[alexnoe]

hmm... I can't locate my c't but I thought the Philips disc had Philips as manufacturer code. In the Feurio shop, you find both! Philips with Philips code and Philips with Ricoh code!
Since I always have bad luck wherever it is possible (the first time I tried cheap media, it turned out as VIVASTAR), I would not have expected anything else :confused:
I have some 1x Verbatim -RWs as well and they've been pretty good. I have used those for about 20 months, and they always worked.
After I received my Plextor drive, I tried to burn one of those 1x discs and voilà -> terrible write quality....it doesn't like them. New-burner-old-discs-problem :(

Maybe I should make a cdrecord-prodvd script which rewrites dvd±rw discs several times without interacting over night :) I already have a working script for 'burn-from-dir <speed> <volume label> <directory>'

[spath]

> can i burn 2.4x DVD+RW Media at 4x [with no
> degredation] like i can burn 4x DVD+Rs at 8x ? -
> its just that im having trouble finding 4x DVD+RW
> Media.

In short, no. Recordable and rewritable blank discs
carry information to allow burners write them only
up to their nominal speed, ie 2.4x and 4x discs
don't carry information to respectively be written
at 4x and 8x. This means that this overspeed
feature is entirely contained in the firmware, and
therefore it will work only if the manufacturer
says so.