Getting subs from VOBs for use with ifoEdit

[mats.hogberg]

Asked this not long in DVDRHELP, but as I'm getting a little frustrated with this issue (after further trial and error), and didn't get any replies, I'm trying again:

I have: 4 VOB's, ripped to HDD, the IFO and all other DVD files.
I want: A DVD with 1) The video (transcoded to lower bit rate) 2) One audio track 3) One subtitle track
To boot, I don't want to use any one click solution (like dvdshrink) at this point, I want to do it the hard way, and learn something in the process. To this end, I've used DVD Decrypter to rip, and ReJig to transcode/demux video/audio. ifoEdit to author. Couldn't be more straigt forward.
I have achieved 1) & 2), but 3) still bugs me.
To recap, so far I've tried this:
Trial 1:
Ripped the sub track I wanted with SubRip, got 4 .sup files (one each VOB). Selected them one by one as sub track (all set to the same language), but as expected, I got a DVD with 4 different subtitles, all the same language. Looked beautiful, tho...
Trial 2:
Ripped the sub track with vStrip, and got me 1 file. However, if I use this, ifoEdit simply ignores it, and creates a DVD without subs at all.
Trial 3:
Ripped the sub track with VobEdit, and got me 4 .sup files. In desperation I tried to concatenate these to one file with copy 1.sup+2.sup+3.sup+4.sup all.sup and used all.sup in ifoEdit. ifoEdit started to complain about end if stream and buffer underruns while muxing the VOB, so I didn't even bother to look at the end result.
So, I ask again: Has anyone any ideas on how to rip a sub track that's split over several VOBs to one .sup file for use with ifoEdit? I'm losing my sleep over this!

TIA!
/Mats

[smiller667]

Hi & welcome to the board ...

Regarding vobedit, open the first vob, click "demux", select your subtitle stream and check "demux complete title set". You should get one sup file containing the entire selected sub stream (i.e. from the 4 vobs).

[mats.hogberg]

Thank you!
I usually hang out at DVDRHelp, but for the first time none there seems to be able to help me out with this.
Hm... I think I tried "demux complete title set", but then VobEdit didn't do nothing at all. I guess it looks in the ifo for what VOB's belong to the title set, and when not all are available, just ignores my wish...

/Mats

[smiller667]

Maybe try again ... and make sure about that "demux complete title set". Vobedit doesn't need an ifo, I just tried it on a set of vobs and it worked just fine.

[mats.hogberg]

?? Strange! When I do exactly that, nothing happens at all. If I don't check "Demux complete title set", I get a sup from the VOB I've opened. I must be doing something wron, but how hard can it be? Open VobEdit, select first VOB, click demux, select the subs stream I want, check Demux complete title set, and then - Nothing!:confused:

/Mats

[Zeul]

vobedit is a no go - across several vobs there is an error in the demux coding.

use vsrip which will provide 1 sub file and 1 idx file. open up sub2sup (from d/l page) and choose your idx file. .sup files will be automatically created. load this sup files into ifoedit and voila

zeul

[smiller667]

Thanks for the clarification. Does this error occur under certain circumstances only? So far I have been lucky, vobedit always worked correctly for me.

[Zeul]

my understanding is that when vobedit reaches the next vob in sequence it resets the clock to 0, so the timestamps for the subtitles are always wrong for vob files 2+

if you are using just 1 vob file then i believe you will be ok.

Zeul

[mats.hogberg]

Well, I've solved the issue:
[list=1]
Rip whole DVD.
Using VobSub, open the title set and select just the chapters you want. Convert to .sup with sub2sup.
Dump this rip, then rip again, this time in chapter mode, ripping just the chapters you want.
Process these VOB's (demux, shrink, whatever)
Author m2v + audio tracks + sup
[/list=1]
Using this approach, I can take any chapters I want, and keep the sub(s) and audio(s) I want. Only restriction is that I must put them sequentially. (Chapter 3 must come before chapter 6, but I can skip chapter 4 and 5)

Thanks all!

/Mats

[alucard83]

How about just using VOB merge to merge all your VOB files or putting a higher limit on the max vob size in DVD Dycrypter? That way, you end up with one huge vob so you can get your complete sub track

[mats.hogberg]

Well, It was meybe not clear, but I wanted to author just a few chapters as a new DVD, not the whole disc.
But then again, will Ifoedit accept a ripped subtitle track?

/Mats

[2COOL]

Just trying to understand your situation. I assumed in your first post that your 4 VOBs were your whole Titleset movie VOBs. Now, I'm thinking that your 4 VOBs are actually 4 separate chapters? And you want to join them all with subs to make a movie only backup?

[2COOL]

*edit

[mats.hogberg]

No, these 4 VOBs where just 4 chapters (out of 13) I wanted to keep. Actually, it's 4 songs from a 10 song music DVD. The 3 remaining chapters are back stage "documentary" and other non interesting stuff.
The subs are the lyrics, that I thought it'd be nice to keep.
As this is one of my first tries at DVD authoring (just been doing (S)VCD stuff previously), I thought keeping a sub track would be as easy as keeping an audio track - Not so! :-) From what I gathered lately, this is due to the fact that this is a shortcoming in the multiplexer. There's simply no multiplexer available (in the free world (are you listening, mjpegtools?)) that can take a demuxed sub track and just mux it into a mpg.

/Mats