Interesting Interaction between DIF4U & Reauthorist

[foxmid]

Hi guys,

My last few backups have had some interesting quirks, and I was wondering if you had any advice.

Each of these last few movies have included different PGCs under different titlesets, and some are getting encoded, while others are not (some over 200 MB, some under).

So, what DIF4U and Reauthorist do, instead of putting those particular VOBs in the VIDEO_TS folder, they are included in the Scenarist project.

The quirk lies here - I think Reauthorist doesn't calculate these non-CCE files, so I wind up with 5.11 GB or so after the encode.

Has anyone else seen this before? This is the first time I've seen this pop up, usually I have to reduce the Reauthorist "estimated" file size to about 4470 MB to get it to fit (it's always just a bit bigger), but these last two movies (Blood Work & Dirty Harry) have the exact same issue.

DIF4U v 1.3.2.0 & 1.3.3.0 (upgraded yesterday)
ReAuthorist 1.0.0
DoCCE4U v 1.0.1.5

btw - after running the encode and seeing it was too big, I just re-did the ReAuthorist bit, and whittled the file size back to about what I was over (plus 100 megs, didn't want to encode THRICE), and it works like it's supposed to.

[influenza]

you mean that the vob gets demuxed but the resulting m2v file dos not get encoded?

Check the setting under global options, other options, do not encode .m2v files less then xx MB

[foxmid]

No, it's working correctly. Basically, I've got a few PGCs under a VTS that are under 200 MB. So they're not going to get encoded, by design. Here's what I think is happening. If you have a VTS on its own that isn't getting encoded, DIF4U just copies the VOBs over to VIDEO_TS, and you don't have to worry about them.

ReAuthorist then automatically takes them into account, and the big three work as designed.

Now, if you have a few small PGCs under a VTS that IS going to be encoded (say, the main movie VTS), these get copied over into their respective VTS folder, with nocce appended to the filenames, but when you look at these in Reauthorist, they show bitrate of 1850 (cause it thinks they're extras).

I think this is where the math flies out the window. Like I said, I've never seen this before, but I'm getting results I can replicate now, that's why I think I know what's causing it.

Maybe I'll try encoding everything, even the little 90 mb files, and see if the file size comes out correctly. Reauthorist HAS to know about these other files, since it's generating the .SCP thats pulling everything together, I just think maybe Reauthorist isn't looking at the nocce correctly, and counting on these files to shrink in size, but they're not going to.

Thanks for your time, I'll keep y'all updated, if anyone cares.

No one else seen this before?

[influenza]

hmm what does dif4u report as bitrate (ccedata.txt)?

[foxmid]

OK - I have somewhat muddied this whole thing up. In Reauthorist, the PGCs that aren't going to be encoded are shown, but they're greyed out (bitrate, passes, etc), since they aren't going to be encoded.

I have run into this problem yet again with American Pie, Reauthorist suggested a bitrate of 4722. I did some off-the-cuff math (guesstimate), and reduced the bitrate to 4410. This produced a 4.8 GB file, some half a gig too large. CCEData.txt had the right 4410 bitrate in it.

When I use Reauthorist on a DVD that will either get ALL PGCs under a Title Set either encoded, or left entirely alone, the file size calculation works nearly perfectly.

I guess I'm going to have to work up an Excel spreadsheet to figure out bitrates from now on, I just hate to have the computer run all night encoding 4 movies, and wake up to find that two of them are too large.

Time to quit being so lazy, eh?
Thanks for all your help.

[influenza]

if dif4u calculates the bitrates correctly then just pass the ccedata.txt to docc4u and use RA afterwards to just create you scenarist script. (only browse to the dir and choose author it)

[the phoenix]

personaly i set the min to demux to 50 mb i think it help a lot to avoide that

[foxmid]

Thanks for the advice - I'm definately going to just do the encodes myself, I mean DIF4U does most of the dirty work, all I've got to do is use the right values.

I may try setting a lower minimum, it's not like it's a huge deal to encode a couple of smaller extras, it's the main movie that takes all the time.

Now I get to learn about multi-angle! Trying to backup Ghostbusters, guess I'll either learn what I'm doing, or die trying.

Thanks again for the great forum, and for those out there who write or support these great addons (DIF4U, ReAuthorist, DoCCE4U, DVD Decrypter). If it weren't for maniacs like yourselves, your average idiot would not be able to make such beautiful backups!