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Seimour
25th September 2003, 16:48
First appeared portable cd players, mostly known as "discman". Then mp3, nowadays wma... and when ogg?
Does anybody know if exist any portable cd player that supports this file format?
If someone knows something, I'd be very pleased if it was from a well known mark such as Philips, Samsung, Panasonic, Sony... and if I could see them soon on shops or if I should buy them through amazon or ebay.
Goodbye & many thanks!
smiller667
26th September 2003, 11:26
Yeah, right, as if Philips or Sony would be the to first implement an open-source audio code like OGG :) ... as for well-known brands, iRiver makes about the best mp3 cd players worldwide, so you can safely forget about Sony etc ... Havin also turns out high-quality products, maybe you heard about the TDK "Mojo" series (Havin OEM product).
Basically there are no such devices currently available ... for flash-based players, Frontierlabs has been announcing a new firmware supporting OGG for "next month" since ages :) ...
This is what little I know about CD players:
From iRiver: First of all thank you for your support and showing your interest to iRiver.
iRiver would like to make an announcement about the OGG Codec.
Plan for supporting OGG files:
There are many customers who are wondering if iRiver would ever support OGG file formats. Technically, it is difficult to play an OGG file from a portable audio device. There is currently an OGG Codec available (only for non portable players) on www.xiph.org. According to this site, the Fixed Point version source "Tremor" is required to make an OGG Codec. This version is not optimized for Embedded (or portable) audio devices. To insert this Codec in the iRiver MP3 player, the size of source needs to be reduced by half. It is possible to reduce a source about 10 to 20% without making any major changes.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to reduce the size of the source by 50% without changing the algorithm of the source. Since OGG file has been recently developed, there is not enough information or research result available to modify the algorithm of the source. iRiver is currently researching and developing a Codec that would allow OGG files to be played by a portable player with two side companies. Please wait patiently and iRiver will update you the research and development process of the new Codec.
From Havin:HVC-300E, ultra-slim and most advanced portable CD player with MP3 & WMA decoding system, featuring a backlit ReFlex remote control with text display. At now, we have been developing new model which is compatible with ogg vorbis for the first time in the world and new model will be introduced around october.
So I guess it would be either of these Korean companies ...
Sirber
26th September 2003, 13:03
I mailed RCA few times to add OGG to Lyra HDD, but they ignore me (4/5) or send me that there is pattent issue with Vorbis :devil:
smiller667
26th September 2003, 13:19
Wow, talk about a "hot topic" ... virtually minutes after I posted my reply, this (http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=355) rather exhaustive statement popped up on the iRiver site :). Sounds cool ... especially if they can keep their promises.
ChristianHJW
27th September 2003, 20:25
Read the corresponding thread on hydrogenaudio, iRiver announced Ogg Vorbis support now through all the product series they have, except the small series 150 x ....
smiller667
28th September 2003, 14:55
Originally posted by ChristianHJW
iRiver announced Ogg Vorbis support now through all the product series they have, except the small series 150 x .... Umm ... I actually tried to say that in my previous post (link to iRiver included :)).
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