DVDshrink - where are the subs?

[Holomatrix]

Hi, is it possible for DVDshrink to display the subs when doing the preview? I just did BulletProof (Re-author) movie only, keeping all audio and subs but when the movie is played back on computer or DVD player the subs don't show up when they are speeking a different language. I did a whole DVD backup of Lord of the rings 2 and the subs were there, I just don't understand what happened to my subs in the other movie.
Thanks

EDIT: sorry, they do play on the computer in windvd but on my standalone they don't for this movie. weird. I burned both movies the same using copytodvd.

EDIT2: double weird, the burned DVD playes on the computer with subs, must be a setting with my DVD player but I have english subs enabled on my player. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks

[2COOL]

@Holomatrix

I'm going to ask a really dumb question.:p Since you don't have menus now, did you try using your subtitle button on your standalone's remote?

[Holomatrix]

Hi, I have the main subs setting set on my DVD player to English but that main setting I think only takes effect when the first sub track (dvd default track) is English. The English subs that control the English translation when needed for this movie is English track 6 of 8. I do get it to work when I click the display button on my remote and enable the 6th sub stream, so now only when the people are talking a different lanquage the English subs pop up, so I know the movie is fine but that concerns me. Why would I need to go through the hassal of enabling the 6th sub track to watch the movie when the original DVD would probably work right out of the box? What if I didn't know what sub track to pick? If someone has the NTSC version of Bulletproof if they can check that it plays normally with the original DVD then need to take this extra step to watch a backup. WinDVD works fine.
Thanks

[2COOL]

I reviewed my backup and my English subs, when they speak Chinese, does pop up. I used DVD Shrink 3.0 b5 and I have 1 English Audio and kept all my subs. Also, I didn't re-author because I wanted my menus.

[voo_doo99]

I remembered a few movies when played thru IFOEdit, the Subtitle selection box was disabled. I had to go to the Root menu and selected Setup to enable the subtitle. What a pain, wonder how they enforce that prohibition? :(

[Holomatrix]

Originally posted by 2COOL
I reviewed my backup and my English subs, when they speak Chinese, does pop up. I used DVD Shrink 3.0 b5 and I have 1 English Audio and kept all my subs. Also, I didn't re-author because I wanted my menus.
Can you try to re-author, movie only and see what happens?
Thanks

[2COOL]

@Holomatrix

You are right. I didn't get my English subitles when Chinese was spoken when I re-authored. But there was an easy fix. There were only two English subtitles in this movie.

Title Set (Movie) attributes:
SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20)
SubPicture 2: Español (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x21)
SubPicture 3: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22)
SubPicture 4: Chinese (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x23)
SubPicture 5: Chinese (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x24)
SubPicture 6: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x25)
SubPicture 7: Español (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x26)
SubPicture 8: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x27)

Subpicture 6 was the one that displayed your English subs when they were speaking Chinese only. Here's the fix.

Go to VTS_01_0.IFO / VSTM_PGCITI / VTS_PGC_1 / PGC Command Table:. We need a new Pre Command inserted so right click on Pre Command #2 and select “Insert Command”. You’ll now have a new Pre Command with a “NOP”. Hexedit this as follows.

OLD > 2.Pre Command..NOP.......................................................[00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00]
NEW > 2.Pre Command..(SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream: 5(Off)....................[51 00 00 00 c5 00 00 00]


Save IFO and BUP.

This default subtitle setting procedure has been documented in this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45440)

[Holomatrix]

Ok, great, I have to read the guide you linked too because I don't know what you just said :) but confused on why re-authoring would mess with stuff like this. We would have to check each movie before we burn it, right? then modify the ifo and bup, kind of a pain :(

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Holomatrix
...confused on why re-authoring would mess with stuff like this. Keep in mind that the command to set your subtitles may have been in your PGC Command Tables in your menus. When you re-author, you don't have menus and therefore no menu tables. Does this make sense to you?
We would have to check each movie before we burn it, right? then modify the ifo and bup, kind of a pain :( What is a pain is not checking your movie and getting a coaster or something that you didn't want. You do what you gotta do to minimize on the coaster collection.

[Holomatrix]

Makes sence. Thanks :)