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Brian_Rehmann
11th September 2003, 03:47
Hello I am new to your forum and would like to introduce myself =)

The advice I need is probably easy for some of you to reply to.

I want to start copying VHS and burn DVDs for some family and friends from home and make some money and maybe go a little further. I need the money for school.

As of now I have a new computer that I am sure can handle the captureing a burning portion of the process. I also resently bought a Aver Media video capute card. I tried to capture a movie and it seemed to work when I notice the picture quility was not that good as the original and the sound was not matching the picture. The card I bought only has video input and not sound. The sound enters through the sound card. My first question is the caputure card only haveing video input and not sound input the problem? Since this $55 card and program didn't work as well as I hoped, what do you think I should do? I just need to capute video from a vhs tape player to my computer to burn DVDs. I will mostly be doing wedding videos and special ocasions. What do I need to just do this basic task with out losing quilty? Please let me know what I should do or buy to achive this little goal of mine =). Also give my names of the products and maybe a price range?
Thank you in advance for replying to my post.

Brian

P.S. I have the Aver DVD capture card still is that all I need? just get the sound to work and then use filters?? THANKS

jggimi
11th September 2003, 04:49
Welcome to Doom9's forum, Brian.

...The advice I need is probably easy for some of you to reply to...

Perhaps. If you follow threads in this forum you will find this group is always opinionated, and sometimes raucous. That's because analog capture is often more of an art than a science. As the Capture FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32575) says:Capturing video is a mix between finding the right settings and being lucky....I want to start copying VHS and burn DVDs...

Thanks for letting us know. Question 28 in the Capture FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32575) points to a couple of threads on DVD process; in addition, there is a very nice DV to DVD Guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60392) in the DV forum. DV's not the same as an analog capture, but if you capture into AVI format files, you end up with an AVI file on Hard Disk in similar fashion. Just follow the guide for Interlaced DV.

...is the caputure card only haveing video input and not sound input the problem?...

No, it isn't. As far as I know, none of these low end PCI cards we use manage sound.

I have an Aver card, though not the same model. Mine is based on the BT878 chipset, yours may be based on the same chip also. If the card has a TV-tuner, then there will be an audio-out connection, which one patches to the line-in of one's soundcard. If these cards have an audio-out for their tuners, then they will have an audio-in connector too, but it just feeds directly to the audio out. It allows one to switch between tuner and a video-in without changing audio connections.

... Since this $55 card and program didn't work as well as I hoped, what do you think I should do?

I gave up on Aver's software and drivers. I found that with Aver's MPEG-2 capture at a high enough bitrate and resolution, I had way too many dropped frames, even with adjusting the MPEG-2 GOP settings. So I installed BTWinCap drivers instead, and am now able to use a variety of applications, such as VirtualDub and it's variants, for capture.

Installing BTWinCap drivers properly isn't intuitively obvious. If your card has the BT878 chip, then see my comments in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60673) to see the process that worked for me.

...What do I need to just do this basic task with out losing quilty? Please let me know what I should do...

Again, these are just my opinions. Other members will probably point you in other directions. I recommend reading the Capture FAQ (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32575), of course.

Then review the Capture Guide (http://www.doom9.org/capture/start.html). It was written in German, then translated to English, but is a pretty good step-by-step method for capturing using VirtualDub, and using filters with AviSynth.

You'll be able to go to DVD if you then follow the method for interlaced DV in the DV to DVD Guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60392) I mentioned above.

The only hardware you'll need, of course, is a very large hard drive for capture, encoding, and authoring ... and your DVD burner.

Brian_Rehmann
11th September 2003, 15:06
You the man! Thanks a lot! Free advice is so nice. Thanks a lot. Just a couple more questions.

"I gave up on Aver's software and drivers. I found that with Aver's MPEG-2 capture at a high enough bitrate and resolution, I had way too many dropped frames, even with adjusting the MPEG-2 GOP settings. So I installed BTWinCap drivers instead, and am now able to use a variety of applications, such as VirtualDub and it's variants, for capture."


So are you using the capture card but a diffrent driver then?

Also any idea why my sound isn't matching the picture? Its about a half second off.

Thanks agian.

jggimi
11th September 2003, 15:32
So are you using the capture card but a diffrent driver then?

Correct. As I described, I am using my card with BTWinCap drivers and Vdub variants.

Also any idea why my sound isn't matching the picture? Its about a half second off.

There could be many different reasons. Click on http://forum.doom9.org/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=513958&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending if you want to see some of the possiblities.

Brian_Rehmann
12th September 2003, 22:33
Thank You Very Much. I will give a try.