Subtitle color (Has nothing to do with IfoEdit)

[Buddy]

I have done some movies with the big three. Everything go's fine untill watching the movie.
For some reason I get a differend subtitle colors with every movie I make. Doing it with ifoedit I get white subtitles, with dvd2dvd-r I get white subtitles also with every compress program like shrink why not with DoItFast4U, ReAutorist, DoCCE4U and scenarist ending it with IfoUpdate.
Watching the pgc the color numbers are exactly the same as in the original vts but still I get a differend color.
Can someone give me a direction to look?
Thanks

[adam]

Make sure that in IFOUpdate's settings you don't have "copy audio and subpicture Tables" checked. Other than that, I have no idea.

[allright]

Adam's suggestion should be right on.

If it doesn't work, try coping the subtitle color from authored .ifo file to the finished .ifo with ifoedit.


Good Luck
JJ

[Buddy]

Thanks for the help guys. To be honest I'm lost now. I've done the movie again and this is what happens.
Scenarist makes the video files with white subtitles getting vts sectors makes the movie ready for burning with white subtitles.

But I want it "right" and put all the files that DoIt4u made together with the files from scenarist. Use ifo update with the original vts. After this I have grey subtitles and the movie is one and half hour shorter and freezes halfway in pwrdvd.

But the stranges thing is when I use ifoupdate and use the vts that scenarist made to change the subtitle color in the completed movie, the scenarist video gets grey subtitles to and that had white subtitles. It is like ifoupdate changes those files what i did not want.

The film without the extra's works perfect. But I'm looking for ways to backup complete movies due to differend chapters on one disc like the movie Napoleon. :confused:

[adam]

Well it sounds like you've got much bigger problems now, but its pretty impossible to diagnose them from such little information. The encode of your movie might just have messed up. Try opening the final m2v/mpv in dvd2avi and scrolling through it. Is it all there? If not delete your .vaf and m2v and re-encode it.

As for subtitles, you didn't mention whether you followed my advice or not. The subtitles on the DVD were made with certain colors, which are stored in the ifo. When you reauthor in Scenarist the default colors are used, which may or may not be the same colors that were used on the original DVD. If you have the "copy audio and subpicture Tables" option checked in IfoUpdate then it will take the colors from the ifo's created by Scenarist and it will overwrite the information on the original ifo. In most cases, this will give you incorrect colors. So before you do anything else, just ensure that "copy audio and subpicture Tables" is NOT checked in IfoUpdate.

I honestly can't think of any other way the sub colors could be getting changed.

[allright]

Sound to me like your updating your scenarist files and not the files in the Video_ts folder that Doitfast4u create.

The way I do it is, that i make a new folder called new_dvd, where I first copy the files that scenarist has created useally stored in the "0" folder. Then I copy the files in the Video_ts folder and overwrite the files, then I start ifoupdate, chose the newfolder folder for the original files, and the "0" folder for authored files.

I think you maybe use the scenarist files as the original.

Good luck
JJ

[Buddy]

Sorry I followed your advice Adam and yes It was selected and I deselected it but it did not change a thing for me.
Everything is there and the film is okay but the film changes after I put the extra's to it. Then the film gets messedup and the subtitles getting a grey color. Like I mentioned I can watch the movie and it is perfect befor I put the files from DoIt\video_ts to the scenarist files.
With the movie Napoleon I have the same problem but the subtitles in this movie are getting blue and the film doesn't messedup. I think something is wrong with the ifoupdate I'm using version 0.71
Allright I'm using the original ifo's and do exactly what you do with those files.

[adam]

Originally posted by Buddy
Like I mentioned I can watch the movie and it is perfect befor I put the files from DoIt\video_ts to the scenarist files.


It sounds like you are adding the files from the VIDEO_TS folder that Doitfast4u created, to the files that Scenarist created? If so you are doing it backwards.

The only files you actually keep that Scenarist outputs are the vobs. Copy them over to your original VIDEO_TS dir. Then run IFOUpdate and just delete the 0/VIDEO_TS folder from Scenarist. After you've updated the ifos you don't need these files anymore. Its the original VIDEO_TS folder you are supposed to keep.

[allright]

Damn, have you tried to copy the colors with ifoedit, do as you always have done, and the copy the colors from the scenarist files, and paste in your "finished" project.


Good Luck
JJ

[Kedirekin]

Don't know if this will help, but it might.

FYI: ReAuthorist/Scenarist Subtitle Transparency/Contrast Tidbit (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56960)

My issue was with subtitle borders not showing up, or alternatively *only* the borders showing up, but I was getting incorrect subtitle colors also.

@adam, I think there's an inaccuracy in your second post (I think). Reauthorist does not use the default colors in Scenarist; the script Reauthorist creates assigns color mapping for each and every subpicture. I'm pretty sure you do want to copy over the subtitle color mappings from the scenarist generated IFO files - isn't that what 'copy color table in each PGC' does?

[adam]

Well if that's the case then I was mistaken, I have never used Reauthorist and I misread his first post. I thought he was doing it manually.

Maybe the "Copy Audio and Subpicture Tables" only copies over the language specifications for the subs and audio tracks. All I know is that the one time I accidentally left this option checked, my subs were the wrong color and it was fixed by disabling this option. In any case, regardless of whether you are authoring manually or through Reauthorist, this setting should be unchecked, per the guides on this site.

I don't know exactly what copy color table does, but I always leave it checked and always reauthor manually in Scenarist using its default subpicture colors, per the guides on this site. So far I haven't run into any problems with incorrect subpicture colors, including the contrast issues you raise in your link. I guess Vobsub copies over the color table into your subs when you load the .sst, so it takes care of everything.

[Buddy]

@Adam I copied the movie vobs to the video_ts file that doitfast4u created and did an Ifoupdate. After that I have white lettering with grey borders. The movie I want to back up this way is Lord of the Rings the two towers.

The strange thing is that the original VTS_01_0.IFO has in the VTS_PGCITI an VTS_PGC_1 and a VTS_PGC_2. Also the VTS_02_0.IFO and the VTS_03_0.IFO.

The VTS_01_0.IFO, VTS_02_0.IFO and VTS_03_0.IFO that doitfast4u saved has in the VTS_01_0.IFO VTS_PGITI two VTS_PGC and in the VTS_02_0.IFO in the VTS_PGITI three VTS_PGC in the VTS_03_0.IFO has the VTS_PGITI four VTS_PGC the original has in every ifo two VTS_PGC.

Also the scenarist pgc has two. Why is doitfast4u dubbeling the VTS_PGC?

@Allright copying the subtitle colors from the scenarist ifo's works but the film still plays on the clock about an hour and a half and as it looks I do not missing things in the movie.

@Kedirekin I'm using scenarist 2.6 and have Grey borders but I still have that the film timing is not correct.
And all of this is happening after I put the scenarist files to the files that doitfast4u saved. I hope you all can read what I've written because I'm lost again.:D

[allright]

Buddy just to be sure, you are only copying the wob files scenarist creates, not the ifo files.

I've done the movie myself, didn't encounter any problems, so this is strange.

But I have been having some problems with vobsub on some movies, useally it skips some subtitles I've then just used subrip, and imported this in scenarist with success.

But the colors are allrigt now, but the movie stops after 90 mins, is there any error codes ?



JJ

[Buddy]

Well you all. I'm sorry I have to do the movie again. For the ifo files I mistakenly toke the second disk:stupid:
I had white subtitles so I don't know if something changed. The ifo's doitfast4u saved where the right one's sorry again. Still having that the pwdvd says that the movie is one and a half hour long. I have in the mean time done 9 films so I removed the backup files for space. Thanks guys.
I'll be back.:(

[Buddy]

Hi guys. I know now what I've done wrong. In the guids it says. Put all the files scenarist made together with the files DoIt4U saved. Well I've done that with the result that the chaptering and subtitles are wrong.
I did what allright did tell and put only the vob files to the DoIt4U files and updated with IfoEdit and both movies I mentioned are working properly.
I new I did something wrong bud with thanks to you I found out what.
Again thanks for the help.:D