Nerovision Re-Encoding

[sapient]

Hi,

I have a problem with nerovision express. Every time I try to author a dvd or svcd, even if I add a compliant mpeg-2 file, nerovision re-encodes it without asking. How can I avoide this? Nerovision has one of the easiest and nicest tools of designing a menu, but this insistence on re-encoding everything makes it useless, at least to me. Any help would be appreciated.

sapient

[maa]

I ran into this problem when I starded with DVD back in June.
If you start with Vobs then you need a program to make the menus and buttons - well there isn't one! No programmer has thought of that yet.
I wrote two guides for doing this with ifoedit:
A Simple Menue - easy! (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56225)
Making a multiple VTS with Ifoedit for a Menu produced with DVD Lab (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58791)

If however you are starting out with mpeg files, you have no chapter settings and need to make them with an authoring program.
I'd recommend DVDLab

[sapient]

Actually I know at least one other program that can import vobs without any re-encoding: TMPG dvd author. However it has a lot more limited options for menu creation compared to nero-vision.

BTW, I still haven't figured out what's the point in re-encoding perfectly compliant streams.

Anyway, does anyone know if there is any hidden setting or trick to disable re-encoding in nerovision?

sapient

[maa]

sorry I should have made that a little clearer - I mean import a Vob set with its IFO - because that is where the chapter timming is stored. Anything else causes you to re-do this work. Sure Tmpeg can import Vobs - DVDLab can too....

[ixpi2001]

hy,
the recent version seems not to reencode the mpeg2 but to run it through its (recode) domain-transcoder to adjust the bitrate. if you set nerovisions bitrate near your mpegs bitrate not much is changed in your mpeg (when using cbr-mpegs, dont know bout vbr..).

nerovision cant handle field-based-encoded-mpegs, it discards half of the fields..
i noticed that it crashes during recoding when the mpeg stream is faulty. the only program i found that can discover any error is scenarist (when importing).

i dont know if pinnacle studio 8 can import vobs, but it has a very convenient dvd-menu editor with animated buttons. its mpeg encoder is cbr with max 8000, but produces very good quality.

[sapient]

TMPG dvd author can import dvd "movies", including the ifo and all chapter info

[maa]

Is that new in the latest release or wasit always there?

[echooff]

Been there since the first version. The latest version allows much more menu editing options. Motion menus, moveable buttion and text, did away with having to go thru 3 or 4 menus for multiple episode menus. They are getting better and easier with each release.

[sapient]

I kind of liked the multiple page menus, though, and the new menu theme editor doesn't allow for multiple page menus. So the only option remains the built-in one.

[maa]

Well I just tried TMPG DVD Author and it insisted that my source material had too long a GOP structure. I mean these are real VOBs from a DVD so why can't it read them ?
Anyone know the right button to press ?