Include Bonus Deleted Scenes?

[xxkmanxx]

I wanted to know if its possible to make a VCD/SVCD of a DVD that has all the deleted scenes in it, the DVD has bonus deleted scenes and i wanted to know if i can include them in the VCD/SVCD i will make, so it'll be like one big movie and has all the deleted scenes in it. that would be very awsome if i could do this. the bonus stuff and the feature movie are one 2 seperate dvds, so i think it migth be hard to do, but it would be awsome if i could do this.

THANKS

[dani82]

yes, it's very possible, it's not that hard, but it does take some time to complete; it should only be done if the quality of the deleted scenes are the same as the movie.

[xxkmanxx]

yeah the quality is the same, but how would i go about doin it? what programs to i need to do it?

THANKS

[E-Male]

i'd do it with avisynth

[xxkmanxx]

i never used avisynth, on their site it says its a frame server, and it runs scripts in virtual dub? i dont really get what this means, how would i go about using avisynth to include deleted scenes in my VCD/SVCD i wanna make of this DVD i have?

THANKS

[E-Male]

when you install avi-synth you don't really get a program, your windows just gets a new feature
you can create .avs files
these are just text files that can be edited in any text-editor
they contain commands that allow you for example to load 2 files and as a result get the 2nd file integrated into the first
these .avs files can be loaded like .avi file and encoded to (s)vcd

it's easy, as soon as you're through the first confusion, really
but before a explain all this to you, please tell me how you normally do your (s)vcds

[xxkmanxx]

i usually encode avis to vcd with TmpgENC. or when ripping dvds i use SmartRipper + DVD2AVI + and then encode the .d2v file with TmpgENC.

[xxkmanxx]

to do this, will i have to know exactly after which frame of the movie each deleted scene should go?

[E-Male]

yes, you have to know, but i'll show you how to find out

i haven't used smartripper for long, i always use dvddecrypter now
i also recommend it to you, but it's not a must (would make explaining easier for me)
good you know dvd2avi and also how to encode the (s)vcd
i'll just have to teach you some avisynth

get the newest version of avisynth, mpeg2dec3, virtualdubmod and besweet(+gui) [i think you can find all of them either on doom9 or via google]
we'll need them later

for now rip the main movie and make a .d2v
also extract the audio track you want
do the same with the deleted scenes

I'll prepare the raw avisynth file for you

[xxkmanxx]

i created the d2v of the movie and the deleted scenes. i was gonna download all those programs, but i think the doom9's website is down or something, cause i cant get to it. so when it comes back up. ill download those programs.

THANKS

[E-Male]

when you got the programs:
use besweetgui to convert the audio you extracted to wave, also converting it 44.1 and (if neccessary) correct the delay

use a text editor wo write this file:
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LoadPlugin("x:\..\mpeg2dec2.dll")
Mpeg2Source("x:\..\mainmovie.d2v")
ShowFrameNumber
------------------------------------------------
of course replace x:\.. with the corerct pathes
instead of mainmovie.d2v use the name of one of the d2v fiels you made, later the 2nd
save the file with a name of your choice and the extension .avs
close the editor and load this file in virtualdubmod
using the slider on the bottom you can move through the movie
using the left and right key on your keyboard you can go frame by frame
you'll see the framnumber for each frame
now use this to make a list of what you want on the (s)vcd
like this:
1. frame 0 to 1759 of main movie
2. frame 10 to 90 of deleted scenes
3. frame 1850 to 5000 of main movie
4.................................

ok, enough for now, i'll continou the guide when you are that far

[xxkmanxx]

i found all those programs, i dont think i needed besweet, cause i used dvd2avi to create the wave file. so im jus gonna do it that way, if thats ok? if that causes problems, jus tell me.

THANKS

[xxkmanxx]

when i tried to open the files in virtualdub mod (i got verson 1.5.4.1), i get an error saying "Avisynth Open Failure - LoadPlugin: '....mpeg2dec3.dll' is not an avisynth 1.0 plugin"

here's the movie.avs:
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LoadPlugin("J:\Download\Movies\ENCODERS\Mpeg2Dec3\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
Mpeg2Source("H:\TEMP\Jay and Silent Bob\Movie\movie.d2v")
ShowFrameNumber
------------------------

why am i getting this error?

THANKS

[E-Male]

if you get 44.1 wave without delay in good quality that's fine


what version of avisynth do you use?
If you're not sure make an .avs file with only the command
Version
in it and view it in virtualdubmod

also what version of mpeg2dec3 do you use?

[xxkmanxx]

last night i re-did the d2v files and i used besweet to convert the audio to wave. when i get home from work, i'm gonna see what version of avisynth and mpeg2dec3 i have. does it matter where i put the avs file or the mpeg2dec3 dll, jus wondering?

THANKS

[E-Male]

it doesn matter
just load the dll with the correct part
and the avs must be loaded like a vido file, so put it where you find it again :))

[xxkmanxx]

ok, i jus downloaded a newer version of avisynth and mpeg2dec3 and now it works, but what do u mean by create a list of what i want on the (S)VCD ?

THANKS

[xxkmanxx]

i think i get what u mean, but its kinda hard to know exactly where the deleted scenes go, have to switch between the 2 files. and also most of the deleted scenes dont have any music, so its kina bland, but i dont think i can do anything about that.

THANKS

[E-Male]

Ok, if you don’t like the list we go right to the real stuff:

First a few usefull things:

In virtualdubmod click “tools”/”script editor” to get an additional window where you can edit the avs-script
Pressing F5 in this window will make the vdubmod-main-window use the newer script (after you made changes in it) and also save the changes

Lines in the avs-script starting with a # are ignored

A command you’ll need is “trim”, it’s used with 2 parameters, for exmple:
trim(500,1000)
will give you all frames from 500 to 1000
if the second value is 0, it means end of clip

important: the first framenumber is 0, not 1

now for the new script:
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#first load the mpeg2-plugin, so avisynth can read the dvd-video
LoadPlugin("x:\..\mpeg2dec2.dll")

#now we load the 2 videos, main movie and deletes scenes
mmv = Mpeg2Source("x:\..\mainmovie.d2v")
dsv = Mpeg2Source("x:\..\deletedscenes.d2v")

#we also add the audio
mma = WavSource("x:\..\mainmovie.wav")
dsa = WavSource("x:\..\deletedscenes.wav")

#and combine vidoe and audio
mm = AudioDub(mmv, mma)
ds = AudioDub(dsv, dsa)

#for easier use in vdubmod we add these
#[will be removed before encoding]
mm = mm.ShowFrameNumber
ds = ds.ShowFrameNumber
mm = mm.Subtitle("Main Movie",-1,20)
ds = ds.Subtitle("Deleted Scene",-1,20)

#now comes the part where you add the deleted scenes into the main movie
#the numbers i’ve put to the trim commands are just examples of course
r = mm.trim(0,5000)
r = r + ds.trim(50,600)
r = r + mm.trim(5001,1500)
r = r + ds.trim(601,5047)
r = r + mm.trim(1574,9999)
#...
#you’ll need some more of these lines, depending on the number of scenes you want to add

#last thing needed to do is telling avisynth what to put through to vubmod (or later to tmpgenc)
result *X*
#repace *X* with mm to get the main movie
#repace *X* with ds to get the deleted scenes
#repace *X* with r to get the result of the “trim”s and “+”s, which when you’re done should be the movie with the deleted scenes in it
-----------------------------------------

have a look at the script in vdubmod and try to understand the syntax
change the “trim” and “+” stuff to match your movie

you should alo be able to play the .avs file in a media-player, like an avi file
but it might not play well ,depending on the comnplexity of the script and the power of your pc

when you got the script adapted (or have questions) we’ll go on


(p.s.: it's a long post, so there might mistakes in it i overlooked)