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AudioVideoMaster
5th August 2003, 23:53
This media compatablility issue is just getting on my nerves. I've went through two different brands of DVD recordable media today alone and this is really getting on my nerves!

First things first... have a Sony Dual 500AX drive. With latest updates installed.

I bought a 3 pack of Maxell DVD+RW "1X-2.4X rated" disk today at Office Depot got them home and all three absolutely refuse to format with DLA software and refuse to be erased by Nero. I tried writing data straight to one of them no luck either. DLA actually gives me back an error message saying the disk are Read Only!! These things are brand new with no data ring written on the surface that I could see. Took these back. :mad:

Went next door to Circuit City. Bought a combo 6 pack of Memorex DVD-R and RW disks. Get these home. Tring just the DVD-RW disks in the package here (1X rated). The format starts with DLA but about 75% of the way through the format process, that normally takes about 42 seconds, it stops and gives me a "General Failure" type error message! Tried two of the 3 disks, same thing happened. I tried erasing the last one of them with nero, no luck. Later I tried to write a couple megs of files with nero before an error message stopped it and it did write them (looked at the surface of the disk) but they couldn't be read.

I don't know what's wrong with this thing!! I have some Fujifilm DVD-RW disks and -R disk that work perfectly in this drive.

I think that the companies that make and or sell DVD blank media should be liable for all this crap that we go through. It's SOOOO simple manufactures!! ...make a good product and we will buy it.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

dvd_maniac
6th August 2003, 03:06
Have you EVER done an erase on this drive SINCE the last time you updated the firmware? Or have you EVER had a successful try? If not then maybe it's not the media...My old dvr-a04 shrugged along for about a year writing hundreds of dvd-r's but had a problem with almost every single rw i put into it. And I'm talking $6-$7 Pioneer -rw's.. Just a thought.

AudioVideoMaster
6th August 2003, 15:01
Originally posted by dvd_maniac
Have you EVER done an erase on this drive SINCE the last time you updated the firmware? Or have you EVER had a successful try? If not then maybe it's not the media...My old dvr-a04 shrugged along for about a year writing hundreds of dvd-r's but had a problem with almost every single rw i put into it. And I'm talking $6-$7 Pioneer -rw's.. Just a thought.

Yes, I actually done some erases with this drive late last night on the Fujifilm DVD-RW's I already had that work fine. (The Fuji -RW's I have are MCC Verbatims in disguise).

I bought these other brands just trying to get a better deal $$$ wise BTW.
But it just doesn't make since that I buy one DVD brand and it works and another doesn't. I never had this BRAND problem on my old HP CD-RW drive I had had since late 1998 before upgrading to this DVD recorder. I could put the cheapest CMC in that old CD-RW drive and it would burn it with no hickups.

dvd_maniac
6th August 2003, 20:34
I think the dvd media market is different than the cd media in the fact that all the vendors know how big dvd media is going to be and they all want to cash in on it even if that means substandard media. The manufacturers sell them to another company who puts there name on it anyways, so to the average user they are none the wiser to the actual manufacturer. I know it sucks....:mad:

AudioVideoMaster
7th August 2003, 03:33
Just to update... I took back the Memorex combo 6 pack of DVD-R/RW's.

Took myself to Best Buy, and bought a 5 pack jewel cased Fujifilm DVD-RW's they might be 1X but they are the good MCC's made in Singapore and worked prefectly when I got them home, just like theother ones I got earlier this summer.

Also bought a 10 pack jewel cased Fujifilm DVD-R's that were Taiyo Yudens (Made in Japan) according to DVD Decrypter and 4X marked on the box. Worked perfectly at 4X.

leisuredoc
7th August 2003, 04:44
@avmaster,

Funny, at Best Buy about 3 weeks ago I bought a spindle of Fujifilm DVD-R's and they came up with a manufacturer's lead-in of Ritek G03 using ADVDInfo's . Brought them back since I can get Ritek G03's from rima.com for a whole lot less than US$99 per fifty.

Now, the Taiyo Yuden's that I bought from Rima always give higher PO and PI numbers with K's Probe than the Ritek's and yet there was about US$1 difference per disk in price. In fact, so far about three Taiyo Yudens out of maybe 25 lock up before the end of the movie, and bomb out at the same place in K's Probe. The Ritek's have been very good.

You really got to watch what the brick and morter stores sell you as "brand name" but also should watch what the internet outlets sell as so-called quality. It's a jungle out there.

Cheers,

leisuredoc
:scared:

AudioVideoMaster
7th August 2003, 14:47
@leisuredoc

Fortunately I haven't had any problem out of the Fujifilm 2X DVD-R, Taiyo Yudens in disguise, locking up before the end of the custom DVD's I make. On one of the DVD Titles I created I filled it up all the way to about ~4.2GB, just shy of the ~4.3GB capacity and haven't had any locking problem. I guess I'm lucky on this side.

atreides93
7th August 2003, 19:12
That is really disappointing. I had no idea the fujifilm dvd-r's best buy was selling were just Ritek G03's! crazy