Manipulating the entry point sector in VTS_PGC_1 Cause DVD-Shrink Not Recognize Movie

[oceansky]

Hi, hope maa.bro see this posting.

In the main movie vts, it has two pgc titles, and in the first one, VTS_PGC_1 under VTS_PGCITI, it has 21 cells in which the first two cells are blank and cell #3 is the movie start section.

At here, I set a different sector # for entry point sector in Cell #3 so i can skip the intro trailer before the right spot i like for the movie start.

So, after I set the desired sector #, WinDVD play fine and smooth. But, DVD-Shrink do not recognize the main movie and it even pull other titles to be main movie.

Hope someone or maa bro can help me to fix and manipulate the sector setting. And I know that cell #3 has attribute playing time, start sector of las VOBU, and last sector of this cell. But, I don't know if these matter and need to change, too, with the change of the entry point sector.

Many thanks.

[2COOL]

How about you "don't" edit the sector # and cut the unedited title in DVD Shrink in Re Author mode. Replace your original VOBs with your new DVD Shrink VOBs and use IFOupdate in Adjusted Cell Mode to correct original IFO. I haven't done this yet but it seems it could work. Right now, I'm not going into write a detailed guide on using IFOupdate as I'm really tired but there are lots of posts around on IFOupdate you can read up on.

[oceansky]

Originally posted by 2COOL
How about you "don't" edit the sector # and cut the unedited title in DVD Shrink in Re Author mode. Replace your original VOBs with your new DVD Shrink VOBs and use IFOupdate in Adjusted Cell Mode to correct original IFO. I haven't done this yet but it seems it could work. Right now, I'm not going into write a detailed guide on using IFOupdate as I'm really tired but there are lots of posts around on IFOupdate you can read up on.

OH I see, i never try the re-author mode in dvd-shrink yet. haha.
Okay, that will help to solve the problem without triggering the sector setting. Thanks. :p

[2COOL]

Originally posted by oceansky
OH I see, i never try the re-author mode in dvd-shrink yet. haha.
Okay, that will help to solve the problem without triggering the sector setting. Thanks. :p You might have to correct your navigation packs afterwards so do this. Do a mock Stream strip in IFOedit's VOB Extras. What I mean is go about like you are going to do a strip but keep ALL streams checked. Move all other original files after done mock-stripping and get VTS Sectors. Now, try opening the IFO with DVD Shrink again. You shouldn't get any nav pack error messages when the files are being analyzed again.

[oceansky]

Originally posted by 2COOL
You might have to correct your navigation packs afterwards so do this. Do a mock Stream strip in IFOedit's VOB Extras. What I mean is go about like you are going to do a strip but keep ALL streams checked. Move all other original files after done mock-stripping and get VTS Sectors. Now, try opening the IFO with DVD Shrink again. You shouldn't get any nav pack error messages when the files are being analyzed again.

I try to use ifoupdate and i remember what this program about. However, I got run-time error, don't know what happen. Everytimes when it correct VTS sectors, the error comes up. If i leave the vts sectors uncheck and just run in cell only mode. It is fine. But, I need all the VTS sectors being corrected as I can see the tesing using windvd as the movie looks not normal.

So, what should I do now, I tried to use the ifoedit to get correct sectos, but it won't work.

[2COOL]

@oceansky

What movie and its region code are you working on?

[oceansky]

Originally posted by 2COOL
@oceansky

What movie and its region code are you working on?

Still the gundam anime "Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's CounterAttact", this is US version.

Now, I even notice if i use IFOUpdate-v072, I immediately have a "run-time error '6' Overflow" after browsing the main movie ifo. But, for IFOUpdate-v056, in this version, it doesn't have the adjusted cell mode, so i choose "cell only mode" to update from original ifo to authored ifo file. But, I didn't use "Correct VTS Sectors" because I would get the same error again "run-time error '6' Overflow". Don't know why this happen and I notice that error is showed right after updating vts_04 sectors in which it is menu video and other trailers.

I am thinking would the problem comes up because I have a 2 PGC title linked to the same video (which is vts_05, inside it has VTS_PTC_1 AND VTS_PTC_2) and now my authored vts_05 ifo only has 1 PGC because when re-author the movie in dvd-shrink I only choose one title. So, do i suppose choose both vts-05 and vts-06 in re author mode. And, this will be a big movie stream after re author. And I don't see dvd-shrink will be able to recognize both stream are same but because the original vts_05 has two pgc title and show two movie titles.

Hope you can find the solution for me. This really tired me for few days. And the structure of pcg 1 title is played right after the dvd start and the bandai logo and pcg 2 title is played when I click on menu. I know this because before I set the different start entry sector so I know which title has played.

Many Thanks for your help!!!

[pilotsnipes]

Hi folks,

Many thanks for all the guides you people have helped me with over the past few weeks, I'm now a very proficient DVD ifoeditor!

This is exactly the same problem as I'm running into at the moment. On some movies after you click play on the main menu, there's usually a lot of into credits that are part of the main movie pgc, and are NOT a separate cell etc.

eg

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [02:43:35.07 / 25 fps] (Programs: 52) (Cells: 52)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:04:10.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:10.20]
<snip>


There's an intro in this 4min 10sec cell that lasts about 1 min. It drives me mad trying to get rid of it.

I've tried double clicking the above cell, and runing through the cell until I come to the sector that I would like the movie to really start.

Lets say it's sector 1442. As shown at the top left of the preview window.

Now I go into

VTS_PGCITI -> PGC1 and then down to Cell 1


[000002b0] Cell_1: Cell type (Angle) 2 [02]
type normal
Block type normal
seamless playback linked in PCI: no
interleaved: no
STC discontinuity: yes
seamless angle linked in DSI: no
[000002b1] Cell_1: Cell restricted? 0 [00]
restricted: no
[000002b2] Cell_1: still time (seconds, 0xFF = Infinite) 0 [00]
[000002b3] Cell_1: command Nr (0 = no command) 0 [00]
[000002b4] Cell_1: playback time (BCD) 266336 [00041060]
playback time (hh:mm:ss.frame) 00:04:10.20 / 25 fps
[000002b8] Cell_1: entry point sector 0 [000000]
[000002bc] Cell_1: first ILVU VOBU end sector 0 [00000000]
[000002c0] Cell_1: start sector of last VOBU 58964 [0000e654]
[000002c4] Cell_1: last sector of this cell 59082 [0000e6ca]




I change the above entry to 1442, then I save the VTS file, and make sure I do a Get VTS sectors.

This works perfectly in PowerDVD and jumps straight to that sector when I start the movie from the menu.

However, if I open the files then with DVDshrink or similar it always messes up, and shows the main movie as EXTRAS and the menus as the main MOVIE!

Also if I burn those files, without runing them through DVDshrink etc, (and the movie is obviously small enough to do this) the DVD player will show a blank screen, with no running clock showing, for the same length of time, as the amount I've skipped! As soon as that period of time as elapsed the movie continues as if nothing had happened. But until then it looks as if the dvd has died.

There's something simple I'm doing wrong! Can you please tell me what it is!?

I've backed up about 70+ DVD, and never had a coaster, but this would be the icing on the cake for me.

Hope someone can help!

[maa]

That is strange because I use the same method a lot and never have had a problem with it.
Shrink shows the missing start as an extra and I'm always carefull to give it the same compression and audio tracks as the "Main Movie" - so I've no idea why Shrink would get the two parts mixed up. You're using Beta5 are you ?

[2COOL]

@pilotsnipes

Hmmm...it should've worked. If you didn't notice, I did come up with a cheat sheet (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58975) for oceansky on his DVD and the step you are inquiring on is in step 8. At the time, I was using DVD Shrink v2.3 though.

[oceansky]

hi, pilot, why don't you reverse the steps, do the dvdshrink step first and then edit the sector to the point where you want the first cell immediately start.

I remembered I did encounter this issue, and solve the problem by encoding the movie with dvdshrink first and later do the sector adjustment. It won't hurt the movie structure as only the number change.

[pilotsnipes]

2COOL - I get to speak to the master himself! Thank you so much for ALL of your guides. They are spot on for clarity and usefulness. You've taught me a lot! Thanks.


However, there's definately a small "issue" in DVD shrink, that if you have changed the entry point sector, before running it through shrink, it will completely transform the whole DVD.

Menus will become Movies, Movies become extras, and extras become unspecified. It's all a bit weird!

Oceansky - That did the job! Just ran it through DVD shrink first, and then did the change of sector point entry. Worked perfectly on PowerDVD and the standalone.

Such an obvious solution! Thanks for the tip

[2COOL]

@pilotsnipes
Originally posted by pilotsnipes
2COOL - I get to speak to the master himself! Thank you so much for ALL of your guides. They are spot on for clarity and usefulness. You've taught me a lot! Thanks.Well, we won't go that far with calling me a "master" as I'm still learning about it. :helpful: Thank for the compliments though!:D

How's your "icing on the cake" doing? :p:p

However, there's definately a small "issue" in DVD shrink, that if you have changed the entry point sector, before running it through shrink, it will completely transform the whole DVD.

Menus will become Movies, Movies become extras, and extras become unspecified. It's all a bit weird!The cheat sheet I came up for oceansky has been updated.

@oceansky

It's been awhile since you last posted. The last time was about the time when I first came up with your cheat sheet. Thanks to your timely post and suggestion! :goodpost: Though, you should've mentioned about it back then.

[oceansky]

Yes, 2Cool, I have been busy for a while and so not really burned dvd stuffs. Just occasionally. And yeah, i should let u know for the reverse step as I thought this is not a big issue.

2Cool, have u tried out dvd shrink 3.1, it claims it is stable for this version, i haven't tried it myself but my sister tried it and work fine.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by oceansky
2Cool, have u tried out dvd shrink 3.1, it claims it is stable for this version, i haven't tried it myself but my sister tried it and work fine. I'm sure 3.1.* would've worked out fine. I was also part of the beta testing team.

[oceansky]

Great Job. Thanks, 2Cool and all of the beta test team members.
You guys are my savior. :>