The best DVD player for DivX ?

[KickF]

Well I'm gona buy my first dvdplayer ( standalone ) ever, and the reason is they can handel DivX now ... I should have buyed one ages ago ,but now it has droped to a price that is OK ... So ... wich to choose ? I have been thinking for a Kiss DP-450 ore a DP-500 with it's LAN support , but there are some new player out like the LiteOn, but the problem here is that I don't realy know anything about the other players ... I have read abit in this forum, but I can sit here the whole day , so I'll just ask you all ... what I realy need is a dvdplayer that can handel subtitels .. the support for more then 1 audiostream is not that important for me ... I need the subtitels more since I have some japanise cartoonmovies and some france movies like Taxi :D just love that movie ... so can you pepz that have dvdplayers with divx support tell me what to buy ? as I stand now I would go for the Kiss DP 450 ore 500 , but I don't know if handels subtitels

[Soulhunter]

Kiss DP-450 = Acceptable standalone... "Acceptable" means "BAD" for me ;) !
XBox + Modchip = Good standalone... And you can also play games with it :D !
Desktop PC with TV-Out = Perfect stanalone... Not cheap, but... :D :D :D !

[zag2me]

Subtitle support on the kiss dp-450 and dp-500 will be improved in the new firmware due for release very soon :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

There are a few more DivX / DVD players available now. Checkout the following: -

Torward MP101 (£150.00)at www.cp@ShockExite.com

Jamo DVR50/A305PDD Reciever (£600.00) at www.jamo.co.uk

Neuston DVX-1201 (£170.00) at www.nineteen72.co.uk

Cheers

[manono]

Hi-

600 pounds for that Jamo model? What does all that extra money get you? The nice box and a cool looking remote control? It doesn't even seem to be DivX Certified. I wonder if they'll sell very many.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi manono
600 pounds for that Jamo model? What does all that extra money get you? The nice box and a cool looking remote control? It doesn't even seem to be DivX Certified. I wonder if they'll sell very many.
Yea, the price does seem to be a little 'up in the clouds'. I read a brief report that said it comes with a built in 6Ch amp (that's the A305PDD part) and speakers!

Edit... Have a gander at this: -
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/news/press_releases/030107.htm

Sounds like an Xcard running Jove player software + reciever!

[manono]

Hi SMD-

OK, you get an amp, not that it would be too useful for too many people. Most people with a surround sound system would already have their own amp. I did notice that it decodes the AC3, but missed the receiver being included. Oh yeah, now I see it:

the first DVD receiver in the world with DivX and PAL/NTSC progressive scan

I still don't see any mention of speakers being included, though. Just something about it being designed for use with their speakers:

Jamo DVR 50 has been specially designed to match our Aesthetic products - in design, sound and operation. This means that a combination of the DVR 50 and the Aesthetic range produces a complete and harmonious solution that is easy to use.

It may be the first DVD Receiver with DivX and PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan, but it's not the first DVD/MPEG4 Player with PAL/NTSC Progressive Scan capability:

https://www2.setssl.com/~hivizone/dvdplayer/main_frame.htm

Maybe the next time I feel money burning a hole in my pocket I'll check it out. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

That's better!

The specs on the Momitsu DVD-V880 look good. I like the idea of having a DVI output.

I've been thinking of making a little device that utilizes / produces this off my Xcard using the cards onboard 'digital' connection strip.

It's a shame that there is no PAL (576p) progressive output. However according to info on Sigma's forum PAL progressive output is possible from non-macrovision DVD's/files.

On a different note. I've tried generating some Hi-def DivX test encodes at 1440x816 (1920x1080 forget it!) but the DivX chip can't handle them. It can scale out to such sizes but can't input!

Shame.

[zag2me]

In reference to the Jamo mp4 player.

Kiss helped out in the developent of this player but.. Kiss are going to release the dp-470 which includes a 5.1 amplifier, exactly the same as the jamo. You can bet it will be a bit cheaper too :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

zag2me,

I have'nt managed to get my hands on a Kiss player.

Can I ask if you, or any other people on the gooddvdstuff forum have tried spinning Mpeg4/DivX files that have been encoded with a frame size above 720x576?

Say. 1920x1080, 1440x816, 1280x720 or even 1024x576!

Cheers

[anders@dac.se]

I would say a Mini-itx computer with onboard mpeg2 decoder, good price and you can even buy a cabinet thta looks like a DVD standalone. Those cabinets cost around $100 but they are just great looking...

[mek]

Nordichardware's Anton Nilsson wrote a great review (http://www.nordichardware.com/reviews/Multimedia/2003/Neuston) about the neuston maestro dvx-1201 player.

[brute]

I think there will be an alternative, the

Xoro HSD 400 (http://www.xoro.com/product/XOR600940.prod)

It's gonna be good in my opinion and it has an another chipset, not the SigmaDesign, but an ESS Decoderchipset.

The player only costs 119€ what will be the same in dollars.

But if I see the included DD-Decoder, I ask me if the qualitily is that good for this price...

[Zhnujm]

The ESS Chipset is more powerful than the Sigma Chip, even 3.11 works well with it, but the actual Players need some firmware improvements. (no zooming in avi until now)

[brute]

do you know another player with the chipset?

[Zhnujm]

The Yamada DVX 6100/6000 has the same Chipset, the Philips 737 also have the same Chipset but is not yet available.

[ChAoS Overlord]

I have the liteon Phomaster LVD-2001 with the latest firmware. All my divx3.11 content plays, but there is heavy stuttering in high motion scenes. :( Can anybody else confirm this with there Sigma-based chipset?

[Zhnujm]

AFAIK all Sigma based Players have this Problem.

[ChAoS Overlord]

Are you saying that if I'd get an ESS based player, I'd be problem free? Are there any in depth reviews available yet?

[Zhnujm]

I can only speak for my Yamada DVX6100 but a 720x576 4000kBit Low Motion file played perfect on it, just like DivX 5.

But dont buy it yet, as said above theres almost no zooming for DivX files until now, that means everything below 704xXXX will have black borders all around.
Only a few 4:3 resolution are zoomed to fullscreen (352x288,360x270,dont know)
Also DivX5 bframes+gmc is supportet, but not for Xvid.

[ChAoS Overlord]

I'll be on the lookout! keep me posted if you find reviews of the philips DVD 737, because it'll be easy to get here in Belgium.

[ChAoS Overlord]

I've got the philips right now and I'm quite happy with it. (No players with mediatek chipset are available as of now)

BTW: it scales perfectly fine.

[rrrredrum]

I've bought a Xoro, and the quality is GREAT, it has played every DivX filed I've burned.

[Wolfman]

I read zhujin comment on the output having black borders and I would say I have this player, and I dont have this problem on any file that I have tried to play. I have never needed to use the zoom feature (except perhaps on halle berry). I would put in my vote for the dvx6100 as it plays nearly everything (except new xvid1.0). 3 new firmware releases in the time I've had it... and xvid full support promised in near future.:D

[Zhnujm]

Try 624,640 or 656xXXX if you use PAL, 560,576 or 592xXXX if you use NTSC. Only the worst examples.
And the picture height is not nearly high enough (at least not for PAL), just compare to the picture of an original DVD.

[Wolfman]

I have just tried two different movies both with resolution less than 600 and they played back full screen , no borders.. do you have all the latest firmware updates?? most recent one about three days ago!

[Zhnujm]

I made a test some time ago (still the same with the actual firmware)
for PAL:

720: ok
704: ok
688: small border
672: border
656: border
640: border
624: border
608: ok
592: ok
576: ok
560: ok
544: ok
528: small border
512: ok
496: ok
480: small border

results may vary because of different overscan on different TVs.

Aspect Ratio Test:

Original DVD: 245mm picture height
elta 8883: vary between 245-250
Yamada 6100: only 608,576,512 have the correct height (around 245), all other (only used those without borders) vary between 210-230

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Wolfman
I read zhujin comment on the output having black borders and I would say I have this player, and I dont have this problem on any file that I have tried to play. I have never needed to use the zoom feature (except perhaps on halle berry). I would put in my vote for the dvx6100 as it plays nearly everything (except new xvid1.0). 3 new firmware releases in the time I've had it... and xvid full support promised in near future.:D What size TV do you have 16:9 or 4:3?

This will make a big difference to how you encode and set the player up!

Originally posted by Wolfman
I have just tried two different movies both with resolution less than 600 and they played back full screen , no borders.. do you have all the latest firmware updates?? most recent one about three days ago! I take it you are talking about sources that are not supposed to have borders. Unlike 2.35:1 movies?

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Just to clear things a bit, i mean only borders on the left+right side, of course its normal to have borders at top and bottom depending on the movie. But even these borders are to big with my Yamada on most resolutions.

[Wolfman]

yes normal borders (top and Bottom) as per a widescreen film .. everything plays back at the full width of the TV .. even something that was encoded with a width of 480.. my tv has no ability to change the aspect ratio. most clips are not encoded by me ;)
I have a normal 4:3 telly .. the yamada is set to output to normal/ps PAL and RGB....
Have a look at digitalhome.com for firmware and other views..
I havent done as exhaustive a test as you but will try some of your big border res ...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Just to clear things a bit, i mean only borders on the left+right side, of course its normal to have borders at top and bottom depending on the movie. But even these borders are to big with my Yamada on most resolutions. That's very odd, very odd indeed.

Having said that, I can't help but notice that many people tend to generate crop and resize encodes that often do not match the sources aspect ratio.

Which is crucial when playing back encodes via a hardware player!

[Wolfman]

Just tested three more films Children of dune 3, LOTR 1 and donnnie darko.. DD is what I call a slit film, it plays in the mddle third of the telly (2.35-1) aspect raio correct, no borders(L/R)
COD3 ( 1.85-1) aspect raio correct no borders(L/R)
LOtr1 (2.28?-1) aspect ratio correct no borders(L/R)
What would be nice would the ability to zoom in slightly to make the 2.35-1 films bigger, sacrificing some film at the edges.

[DevilsChild]

You could buy an XboX for $150, then send it off to one of the Linux XboX guys who will install Linux for free. This would allow you to play pretty much any DivX/XviD movie on your XboX "standalone".

[svision]

yes, but you'd need to replace the DVD-ROM drive (which won't let you play originals anymore) on the xbox as the original plays very few (if any) CDRs though it plays cdrws (mostly) and DVDRs just fine....oh and streaming over the lan doesn't obviously require dvd replacement :)

[snek_one]

i have a yamada 6000 and i am very happy with it.. with the new firmware that came out on christmas 2003 it even supports subtitles with different names!

for the rest the borders went away 2 firmwares ago as far as i have been able to tell..

new firmwares can be grabbed at Umax.de (http://www.umax.de) it's a German site though, but i had no problems find them ;)