Doom 9 rules doubt and constructive suggestion

[bilu]

Hi,

I could PM this to a moderator, but you'll understand that the reason I didn't is my doubt.

I received today a warning about violating rule #1 over a certain post (I can post a link if a moderator asks for it).

I tried to see it but my access to that post is blocked, so I can't know
what was my error. I post a lot in AVS Usage, AVS Development and sometimes XVID.

Today I posted a Slashdot news link about an AAC codec comparison on Audio Encoding forum, which was very old news. I didn't knew because I usually don't go to that forum.

I think that it was probably that post. And it's no longer in that forum, so it must be it.

I think moderator was right since I didn't searched before posting.

What I didn't like was having to guess what post was it, because I cannot access it. As a suggestion I think warned users should be able to see (not modify) their blocked posts. I don't know if that's easy to implement.

This was my suggestion. My doubt is this:

I PM'd Doom9 to be able to see my own post, since I didn't knew to which other moderator I could post. I also replied to the warning mail asking the same thing.

What I don't know is if my mail and PM were ignored or he didn't have the time to see it. This doubt comes from two rules:

4) Be nice to each other and respect the moderator. Profanity and insults will not be tolerated. If you have a problem with another member turn to the respective moderator and if the moderator can't help you send a private message to Doom9.

10) Do not send questions via personal messages or email to Moderators or Admins, they will be ignored.

I don't know were my case would fit. :confused:

So what I'm asking is for the possibility for users to view the post where they broke the rules, because from a post number it's hard to tell.

And to know if questions related to the way the forum works and not to a conflict with a member or moderator can be PM'd/mailed or if they would be ignored.


I hope this post can be interpreted as a constructive suggestion, no intend to bash anyone at all.

Best regards,
Bilu

[oddyseus]

Hello bilu,

I can confirm that this was the post in question, since I just run into it.

[bilu]

Thanks :)

I still would like feedback about the possibility to let warned users see their blocked posts. I think it's important.

Thanks again.

Bilu

[bilu]

Related stuff:

Received this error message when mailing back, from MAILER-DAEMON@plain.rackshack.net

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at plain.rackshack.net.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<doom9@thegratwicks.com>:
This address no longer accepts mail.



Bilu

[oddyseus]

Your thread is in a restricted area. I guess this doesn't allow any viewing from members.

I don't know if there is any kind of fix to this problem or if it will ever be one. However your suggestion is a good one.

[Swede]

Originally posted by bilu
I still would like feedback about the possibility to let warned users see their blocked posts. I think it's important. It's a good suggestion and I'll try to implement this ASAP.

[Doom9]

And to know if questions related to the way the forum works and not to a conflict with a member or moderator can be PM'd/mailed or if they would be ignored.
Nobody has ever been given a strike for such a line of questioning and nobody ever will. The rule is here to stop people from sending questions on their ripping problems.

[bilu]

Thanks for the feedback :)

10) Do not send questions via personal messages or email to Moderators or Admins, they will be ignored.

Maybe rule 10 should be reformulated to show your answer. Something like:

10) Questions not related to moderating or the forum itself should not be mailed or PM'd to Admins or Moderarators, they will be ignored.


Just a suggestion :)


Bilu

[j.daleo]

This is a warning I recieved.

From: Doom9's Forum Mailer [kaizen@doom9.org]
Sent: 04 August 2003 8:36 AM
To: j.daleo@iolfree.ie
Subject: Warning

We have discovered that you have violated forum rule #6 in one of your posts (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?action=showpost&postid=352989). If you violate the forum rules 1 more times you will be suspended for 30 days.

First of all i'd like to apolagise for breaking any rules.

I asked a certain question about a phrase I read under MPEG1/2 Tools

After the program TMPGEnc it says "Unless You live In The Future" regarding the 30 day MPEG/2 Trial.

I was curious to know what this meant. (as i use this program)

When I read this I thought that there was a way of getting longer than 30 days MPEG/2 trial.

And being that I read it here at DOOM9, I thought it would be appropiate to ask here at DOOM9, what it meant.

I did not intentionally break any rules and feel that I'm owed an explaination.

Or better again have my original question answered. (What does "Unless You Live In The Future ;-)" mean?) in relation to TMPGEnc.

Thank you.

[Doom9]

read 2cool's post in reply to your 2nd post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58752) again...

Just because I mention that something exists, doesn't mean you are entitled to go around the forum rules. I've mentioned that some commercial programs can and have been hacked, but that still doesn't legitimate asking where to get the crack. You don't ask a newspaper writing about illegal movie or music downloads where you can get them, do you? Don't you think that if there were an entirely legal way to extend the trial period, I would've mentioned how it can be done?
Plus, you know the rules say do such things privately..

[SeeMoreDigital]

In my opinion there does not appear to be a clear line regarding what is acceptable and what is not!

I agree that blatant hacks should not be discussed and/or posted on the forum. However, if we all agree that this should be the case. Why is there a sticky in the 'DivX 5' section telling members how to circumvent DivX Pro activation?

I can't imagine that DivX are very happy about this!

[bilu]

@SeeMoreDigital

There is a way to circunvent GAIN ads in DivX using firewall or registry, not changing or cracking the product. That's why it is perfectly legal and can be posted. Here you're just disabling a "functionality" of the program.

I believe that fooling TMPGEnc, even without changing the program, will be fooling the trial period itself. That can't be considered legal, so it shouldn't get posted.


Bilu

[SeeMoreDigital]

I understand that.

But it could also be interpreted that by posting such a sticky will encourage people to download and install the 'Gain' version of the software only. Safe in the knowledge that it's then possible for them to disable the spyware. And in doing so not pay for the full version of the product!

Such a sticky just adds more fuel to the fire. And is most upsetting to DivX users who have paid for the product in good faith!


EDIT...

Now we all hate spyware I know, especially if it finds its way onto your PC by stealth. However this is different as users of the 'gain' version of the application have knowingly agreed to install the entire product by accepting the ELUA. Which also covers the Gain software.

It could therefor be argued that be revealing how to disable the Gain portion of the application breaks your EULA agreement regarding the 'overall' product. And in doing so could be illegal!

God fobid that this should be the case but like with most agreements it could be read in more than one way!

[bilu]

@SeeMoreDigital

You're right about encouraging. :o
But that's a decision that spyware sponsors will have to do, it's their own risk :)

GAIN ads are part of the adware, so removing them is cracking the product. But denying internet access to an application is entirely user rights, so the firewall part is legal.

And it's enough too ;)

To those who don't know the referred thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19583

EDIT: Could someone post the GAINed-DivX EULA to see if there is something related to internet access of their application?

I wonder if it would be legal for them to have somthing in the EULA like "This is a sponsored product, so you'll have to permit full functionality of our application, including internet access".


Bilu

[jggimi]

Could someone post the GAINed-DivX EULA to see if there is something related to internet access of their application?

The LICENSE.TXT file is stored by default in the "C:\Program Files\DivX\DivX Pro Codec" folder. I assume it is the same document for all versions of the codec.

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. That stated, the section labelled RESTRICTIONS, paragraphs (a) and (c) are probably most applicable to your question.

[j.daleo]

Originally posted by Doom9
read 2cool's post in reply to your 2nd post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58752) again...

Just because I mention that something exists, doesn't mean you are entitled to go around the forum rules. I've mentioned that some commercial programs can and have been hacked, but that still doesn't legitimate asking where to get the crack. You don't ask a newspaper writing about illegal movie or music downloads where you can get them, do you? Don't you think that if there were an entirely legal way to extend the trial period, I would've mentioned how it can be done?
Plus, you know the rules say do such things privately..

If not allowed to be discussed here then why mention here.

Anyone who doesnt know what it means will want to know.

youre setting people up to break rules:rolleyes:

[Doom9]

If not allowed to be discussed here then why mention here.
you started it, remember? here = the forum.
On the site: to give people smart enough to figure out cryptic messages a chance while not actively assisting in piracy.. it's a borderline case, just as with divx (where I think the deactivation of a spyware software is justified.. and anyone who has a personal firewall will automatically have it disabled anyway.. is having a personal firewall illegal? I don't think so).

[j.daleo]

Fair enough

No point making a big deal out of nothing

Thank you
Regards