How to join VOB

[Olympus]

Hey how do i join vobs' together cause the main movie is vts_11.01 and thats the main movie but there is two more parts under this . vts_12.01 and vts_13.01 which makes it right at 4 gigs so how can i join them together and reauthorize the dvd to work thanks hehe a newbie tryin to learn.

[Dave82]

Rename your files like that:
VTS_11_01.VOB ---> VTS_01_001.VOB
VTS_12_01.VOB ---> VTS_01_002.VOB
VTS_13_01.VOB ---> VTS_01_003.VOB
Then join them with VOBEdit (click on "Join Clips") and create new IFOs with IFOEdit (follow this guide (http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/createifo094.html)).
If you kept any subtitle stream in your ripping process, you have to adjust them following this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=283424#post283424) by 2COOL.
I hope this will help you ;)

[maa]

I can highly recommend DVD Shrink if you havn't tried it already.

The join method above has very limited use because of the varying formats that do NOT glue together to become one new VOB.
Its highly likely that your vts_12_1.vob is using 2 channel AC3 compared to full movie using 6 channel AC3 - see what I mean ?

[Dave82]

varying formats that do NOT glue together
Of course you're right about that, maa.
Maybe I misunderstood Olympus' post, I thought the "two more parts" belonged to the main movie too (also considering the fact that a movie is usually bigger than one VOB)

[maa]

Thats ok dave,

BTW - I like your Quote!

[mpucoder]

There's something not right about those file names to begin with. Are they from a DVD? If so did you copy the names correctly? If you meant vts_01_1.vob, vts_01_2.vob, and vts_01_3.vob you do not need to join them except for a very few programs that (still) do not understand that they are all chunks of a larger file. If you do need to join them, use FileMerger (http://www.doom9.org/software2.htm#vobtools) or VobMerge (http://www.angelfire.com/nc/evilmastr/) to make one large vob out of several smaller ones. If you're familiar with DOS commands, that is equivalent to copy /b vts_01_1.vob,vts_01_2.vob,vts_01_3.vob new_vts.vob

[rozemab]

copy /b vts_01_1.vob,vts_01_2.vob,vts_01_3.vob new_vts.vob

....If a movie is on two DVDs, is it okay to rename the VOBs from the second disk to continue the numbering scheme? Assuming they were ripped with the same characteristics.

examples

disk1 vts_01_1.vob
disk2 vts_01_1.vob (rename vts_01_2.vob?)

complete movie vts_01_1.vod vts_01_2.vob?

I would have thought there would be some type of header info that would confuse the encoder and cause all sort of sort (bad) to happen?

Mongo

[Dave82]

I think you could have some problems with VOB IDs if, for exemple, in VTS_01_1.VOB you have VOB IDs 1 and 2, and then VOB ID 1 again in VTS_01_2.VOB.
You should use VOBEdit to adjust VOB IDs (have a look at this guide (http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/joinclip.html#joindbl) ;) )

[mpucoder]

This is intended only for joining together the pieces of a titleset vob into one whole file.
Joining 2 sides or 2 DVDs is another story altogether. Movie-only can be done with VobEdit join clips, but you will almost always get more chapter points than the original.

[Dave82]

Do you mean that you'll have a chapter for each cell even if in the original DVD it's not like so?
In that case you can simpy delete extra programs in VTS_01_0.IFO and correct the number of programs in VIDEO_TS.IFO (see in DVDDecrypter IFO mode which chapters correspond to more than one cell).
But if you didn't mean so, please forgive my ignorance :p, I can't see where is the problem.

[mpucoder]

That's pretty much the case, you will also get an extra chapter at the start of each file.

But I'm not sure which the original question was about - joining sides, or files from a titleset (or something else altogether).

[Holomatrix]

Hi, what is a good freeware program to cut VOB's?
Thanks

[maa]

what is a good freeware program to cut VOB's? DVDShrink / re-author mode. Makes working VOBs and nearly always working AC3 - Using DVDShrink as a Cutter (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57961#post348712)

[Holomatrix]

Thanks, I'll check it out. I just tried ChopperXP and it seems to do the job for me to.

[rchiang]

One of my all time favorite movie "The Bridge on River Kwai" comes in 2 title sets. Each title set has about 20 chapter points. I followed the guides and joined the vobs but ended up with over 100 chapter points, one for each cell as described by mpucoder. I can live with the end result, but would like to know if it is possible to preserve the original chapter points. If so, is there a guide?

[maa]

Check out www.DVDShrink.info , look at the guides there.
Like this one : http://www.dvdshrink.info/re-author-v3beta5-advanced.php

[Dave82]

DVDShrink is OK to join two titlesets without losing the chapter points, but since you've already done your backup, if you aren't afraid of some IFO editing, follow these instructions (and you'll be also able to directly navigate to the second half of the movie with the 'next' button on your remote).
Open VIDEO_TS.IFO ---> VMG_PTT_SRPT and change the number of chapters to the original number (1st titleset + 2nd titleset). SAVE.
Have a look at the original VTS_0?_0.IFO of the two titleset and write down which are the cells to which chapters point in the original DVD.
Open VTS_01_0.IFO ---> VTS_PGCITI / VTS_PGC of the PGCs which you want to change the number of chapters of (in your case there should be just one). Delete (right click) all the program in the PGC Program Map that point to cells different from the ones you have written down. SAVE.

Originally posted by mpucoder:
you will also get an extra chapter at the start of each file
I think that's because VOBEdit may not join your VOBs in a extremely precise way, so it happens that the last cell of each VOB is split between its own VOB and the following one. So be careful, I suggest you to check the content of the cells double clicking on them in VTS overview in your new VTS_01_0.IFO (only the cells near to the ones you suppose correspond to chapters, not all 100 cells :scared: ), just to be sure to keep the right programs ;)

[rchiang]

maa,

I didn't mention that I already made a DVD backup with DVDShrink using the method you described. The only thing is that I ended up with 2 title sets. For movies that I have less liking, I would rather back them up to SVCD rather than DVD-R. I have not been able to figure out how to use DVD2SVCD to backup movies with multiple title sets. This is the reason I want to learn how to use VOBEdit to merge the title sets. Perhaps later I will use the technique to backup a milti-title set movies to SVCD.


Dave82,

Thanks for the info. I'll try your method this weekend when I get some downtime. Will let you know how it goes.

[rchiang]

Dave82,

Thanx for the instruction. It was a bit tedious to manually match and then whittle down the 122 chapter points to 41. But at the end, I got exactly what I wanted, a backup with a single title set and all the correct chapter points, plus the knowledge to boot.

Now, I can backup my kid's "Dora" and "Blues Clues" videos with this technique. It will allow me to pack all the episodes, which come in multiple title sets, on the DVD to a single SVCD.

Again, thanx for the knowledge xfer.