@Doom: RSS News Feed

[Emp3r0r]

@Doom: RSS news feeds are becoming increasingly popular. There are many clients which consume the feeds such as my favorite SharpReader (http://sharpreader.net). Do you plan to offer such a feed or need help setting one up? Let me know.

[Edit]Wow it seems Bilu suggested the same thing with the same thread subject (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56313)... don't know how I missed that one.

[brashquido]

I second this. On my personal site I'm wanting to set up a few RSS newsfeeds from topics that are of interest to me, the news at Doom9 would be well up there on the list :) .

[Gandalf]

RSS Feed for the doom9 news is the best thing that can happen to the site right now :)

I third this. I have a lot of pages that I like checking and I don't get around to refresh them on regular basis. Being notified of the news and reading a brief version in my rss reader makes me much happier with my favorite sites.

[Doom9]

Alright, here's the situation.

a) I don't have time for any extras that only concern a small part of my readers.
b) I have 5 servers, and not all of them are equipped to handle dynamic content.
b) I don't know anything about RSS.

So, if anybody wants to step up and create a way to dynamically create an RSS feed from my static news in a way that I don't have to spend any time on it and so that it works with my current server equipment, you are welcome to step in and I won't stand in your way, but if I have to do it all on my own, there's no way.

[b0b0b0b]

These guys (myrss.com) do an automated rss of just about any website out there. The catch is, unless someone pays them money, the feed has a 10 second ad in it. Here's the one for doom9:

http://myrss.com/f/d/o/doom9Right7558eo0.rss

There are probably a ton of things on sourceforge to solve this problem. I think this would be pretty cool, I might look at how to do this if I get some time.

[Doom9]

I've seen that (in fact somebody even set up such a stream in the past) but this example shows that an RSS feed needs moderation. The news should have a tagline, so that the news item can be linked to it. Right now, items are based on links, and the links go directly to programs.. there's no actual news item you can get so it's not very useful.

[b0b0b0b]

I think that each entry would correspond basically to what you are putting in the table cell each day.

Like at this feed: http://www.thauvin.net/blog/xml.jsp?format=rss2

I think that the rss client just hits a url for an xml (no reason the xml cannot be static).

If you have any kind of authoring or distribution tool that you use for uploading a post for a day, that could be modified to also upload a static xml that contains a new item corresponding to that day's post, which can contain basically anything (even duplicating the html of the post :) as escaped xml)

[Edward_K]

Originally posted by b0b0b0b
I think that each entry would correspond basically to what you are putting in the table cell each day.

Like at this feed: http://www.thauvin.net/blog/xml.jsp?format=rss2

I think that the rss client just hits a url for an xml (no reason the xml cannot be static).

If you have any kind of authoring or distribution tool that you use for uploading a post for a day, that could be modified to also upload a static xml that contains a new item corresponding to that day's post, which can contain basically anything (even duplicating the html of the post :) as escaped xml)

Something like this?
(add to rss reader)
http://doom9.edwardk.info/

I'm taking suggestions if it isn't.

[Doom9]

now I just need a good free and preferably installation free RSS reader (the last I tried permamently killed my Firefox and I didn't particularly like that).

@Edward_K: I've only seen it in plain XML format, but that looks more like it, though I guess each item would need a title, and it would probably be better to split up the daily news into different news items and put a title for each (and that's where the work begins). A good example of PDA friendly news (and it's not even an RSS feed) is the PDA version of heise (http://www.heise.de)'s news.. it contains what the actual news items contain, with the proper tagline (that is used as a selection of which items you want to see). They can do it automatically since they do have each news item separately and with a title.. something I don't have (and I think for a site like mine that doesn't have 30+ news items a day my structure is better to read and takes a lot less space on the frontpage).

[avih]

i installed Rss Reader (http://fls.moo.jp/moz/rssreader.html) v1.7 for firefox, and it's working well for me (except that when you don't drag the icon to the toolbar, it kind of messes the toolbar customization panel. it's still easyly disabled)

[stickboy]

Originally posted by Doom9
now I just need a good free and preferably installation free RSS readerHow about a web-based one such as Bloglines (http://www.bloglines.com/)?

[Edward_K]

Its possible to make the rss consider your paragraphs on the news page as seperate items and include say, the first 50 characters as the title.
eg,
4/14 - asdf asdf asdf asdf
(rest of paragraph)

Some existing news entries would not appear correctly though since they're not self contained news items.

Or I could leave it as is.

[Doom9]

Some existing news entries would not appear correctly though since they're not self contained news items.That's just the problem, isn't it? automatic RSS feeds work if the news have an "RSS friendly" format.. mine don't, and for my site, a headline - news item wouldn't make much sense as news are only added once per day and it would mean just extra work and blowing up the newspage for the few people to use an RSS feed (most people still use Webbrowsers).

Now I'm wondering a bit.. what would the feed be good for? To know there is something new (that theoretically you could do with your own program requesting the main page and check the server answer - they usually tell you when the page has been last updated), to read the news in another format (I wouldn't quite understand that unless the other format means something on a PDA or a communicator device). If it's a PDA, then having a headline - news item structure is a must, and putting the entire news of a day as the news item would not be great.. but the alternative - the first X words = headline - also often don't work so, so the best solution would be a moderated RSS stream where a moderator creates headlines and attacheds news items (pieces of my news) to it, but that obviously means some daily work.

[athos]

Version 3.0.0 of vbulletin has built-in support for RSS, so if you would upgrade the board software we could get rss feeds for the forum, as well as some other nice features.

[Doom9]

the upgrade is planned, but what's an RSS feed for a forum good for?

[athos]

I guess you can get those nifty little popups when new replies are posted or new threads created. I havent seen the vBB feed though, not sure how configurable it is. I would like to see only new threads and maybe posts in threads that i subscribe to, but I dont think you can be that specific.

[Gandalf]

Depends on the forum. But usually I like getting notifications on new threads, or just have a list of threads handy, without actually going to the site. Then when I go, I go directly to the thread that interests me.

[Neo Neko]

To whomever might be interested. I have been learning XML. Not as hard as I used to think. And in the process I wrote a nifty xsl file that uses a tidied up version of right.html from the front page. Using right.html and an XML compatable browser it generates RSS 2.0 feeds in under 20 lines of code. ;)

here (http://neoneko.ath.cx/xml.zip)

[CharlyAR2]

Originally posted by Edward_K
Something like this?
(add to rss reader)
http://doom9.edwardk.info/

I'm taking suggestions if it isn't.

Sorry to resurrect a (very) old topic, but...

...this RSS would be pseudo-official doom9? As far as I can see is always updated...

Why not to put it on the site?

[Edward_K]

I didn't know anyone actually used it, I put it up for fun heh

[Gandalf]

Yup, it's useful :)

[boombastic]

I'm using it!

[Edward_K]

Due to high user demand:
http://doom9.edwardk.info/index.phps
It's ugly, but it works somehow :sly:

[thumperward]

Adding

function utime(){
$time = microtime();
return substr($time, 11, 10).substr($time, 1, 7);
}

will let it work on Windows too.

I've got a test page (http://thumper.kicks-ass.org/doom9) up at the moment which is taking the feed and using it to recreate the left panel in a, well, less 1996-ish way.

- Chris

[Edward_K]

I am running windows...

[thumperward]

Heh. You've probably got it defined somewhere else, if you do any php programming (rather than just having php lying about for Wordpress).

- Chris

[pixolex]

this means we will have RSS in DOOM9?!
:)

[Edward_K]

You could use http://doom9.edwardk.info/ for your rss needs until some sort of official one appears.
I'll be around for a while :o

[OvERaCiD23]

Sweet, thanks.

[magilvia]

I'm using it too!!

[gemon]

cool,
that's a nice one!
i was looking for a rss for doom9

:) :)

Gemon

[nwpsys]

Did a forum search to find if there was a Doom9 RSS feed and found this - nice !

Big thanks to Edward_K for maintaining this.

nwpsys

[pecus]

You could use http://doom9.edwardk.info/ for your rss needs until some sort of official one appears.
I'll be around for a while :o
Wonderful, I'm on it (via Bloglines)

[pixolex]

You could use http://doom9.edwardk.info/ for your rss needs until some sort of official one appears.
I'll be around for a while :o

Did you make any change in the RSS feeds? :)
Ñow i see the feeds like rrs new not the all page!

[defaulk9]

has anyone else had success with getting this feed to work in Mozilla Thunderbird's RSS reader? For me, it loads the most current item as of the day that I added the feed. After that, it doesn't ever get the new items.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Any idea why?

And by the way, thanks Edward K for creating this.

[Edward_K]

Checking it out now.

[Edward_K]

Haven't really done much, but I did move the feed to another, faster, (and more reliable) server >_>

[NMachiavelli]

has anyone else had success with getting this feed to work in Mozilla Thunderbird's RSS reader? For me, it loads the most current item as of the day that I added the feed. After that, it doesn't ever get the new items.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Any idea why?

And by the way, thanks Edward K for creating this.

I use Onfolio as a feed reader, and I'm getting the same problem. Bloglines seems to like the feed just fine, and it validates as proper RSS. I'm sending a note to Onfolio to see if they know what the issue is...

[yuri6312]

hoho i don't konw who can actually used it..

[NMachiavelli]

I use Onfolio as a feed reader, and I'm getting the same problem. Bloglines seems to like the feed just fine, and it validates as proper RSS. I'm sending a note to Onfolio to see if they know what the issue is...

For what it is worth, this is the reply I received:

"It looks like the feed is malformed-- from a quick glance, I think that perhaps it may be missing ID tags. This would need to be fixed by the person who hosts the feed."

Regards,
The Onfolio Team

[halsboss]

Version 3.0.0 of vbulletin has built-in support for RSS, so if you would upgrade the board software we could get rss feeds for the forum, as well as some other nice features.

I'd heard we were post V3 ... does that mean we've got an RSS feed somewhere ?

[Edward_K]

http://forum.doom9.org/faq.php?faq=vb_board_usage#faq_vb_rss_syndication

[check]

you can get an rss feed for the whole forum or for individual boards :). If the main page were to be mirrored in a new subforum, this would create an automated rss feed for new threads.