Jaggies and gitches in CCE encodes?

[ibilisi]

Hello-

I've been using the Big 3 to automate my DVD backups. However, I believe that I'm having an issue with the way cce is encoding my vob files.

Often times I get jaggies and glitches in my reencoded files.

Screen Shot (http://www.awaremag.com/cce/sleepycceerror.html)

I'm running a dual 1800mp system, non-overclocked, well cooled with cce 2.67.00.10. I can run prime95 all day and have no problems with my 1.5 gig of ecc ram.

Does anyone have any idea what might be going on here? Has anyone seen similar output? What did you do to correct it??

Thanks, in advance.

[auenf]

looks like something an unstable system would create, or even bad decoding.

try decoding the movie (or part thereof) to an avi and see if that helps.

Enf...

[Forseti]

Just curious, what player are you using to view them after encoding? I started having this problem too and have pinned it down to PowerDVD5 (and it only occurs to video encoded by CCE) If I play the original DVD in PowerDVD5, it plays flawlessly. Or even if I input video that was encoded by TMPGEnc it works fine. If I take the same video encoded by CCE and input it into a different player it works fine though, so it has to be something with PowerDVD5 and CCE.

If you aren't using PowerDVD5 then I don't dont know what else could cause it, since you say you aren't overclocking.

[ibilisi]

Forseti-I'm using windvd 4.5 for my player. Odd isn't it?


auenf- I have been trying to reencode over and over and I get the same thing. So, I added a fan to the bottom of my harddrive, thinking that heat could be an issue here. I'll keep you posted on the results. I'll also try decoding to avi later.

THanks for the comments.

G

[screw]

I had similar "artifacts" on my re-encodes, when I installed CCE 2.67 on my notebook (which has P4 inside). I made the same movie on desktop (Athlon inside) and everything was OK there. After investigating I found out that reason is MPEG2 decoder (I was using MPEG2DEC2.DLL, which was Pentium optimised). When I replaced this with older MPEG2DEC.DLL, everything went OK also with CCE 2.67 on P4.

[ibilisi]

Originally posted by screw
I had similar "artifacts" on my re-encodes, when I installed CCE 2.67 on my notebook (which has P4 inside). I made the same movie on desktop (Athlon inside) and everything was OK there. After investigating I found out that reason is MPEG2 decoder (I was using MPEG2DEC2.DLL, which was Pentium optimised). When I replaced this with older MPEG2DEC.DLL, everything went OK also with CCE 2.67 on P4.

I'm confused. So your notebook wasn't working right but it had the mpeg2dec.dll with pentium optimizations? Then you changed to an older version and it was right? I would think the optimizations would be beneficial. Sometimes things suprise you eh?

Thanks for the info- how do I know what version I'm using?

[screw]

MPEG2DEC.DLL (which is OK in my case)is from Dividee, available here on Doom9 site:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/SupportUtils/mpeg2dec_dll.zip
File is MPEG2DEC.DLL, size 184320 bytes.

Another one came from Trbarry, link is also here somewhere on site. File itself is MPEG2DEC2.DLL, size 421888 bytes.
BTW, I am still using AviSynth 2.07, which is working with those decoders. I have read in news, that AviSynth 2.50 and above are using different decoders, but I have not tested them.
And to be precise, I cannot say for sure that decoder was one causing problems. May be reason is more complex. Just in my case switching back to older decoder solved the problem.
And BTW2, performance difference was small in my case, if not using Pentium optimised decoder.

[GrandMstrBud]

I have had the same issue using CCE 2.5 and 2.67. I have an AMD XP 1800 with 512 MB RAM. I added another fan thinking it was a heat issue but it was not. I've re-encoded it and then the part had a glitch was gone but another glitch shows up at another part of the movie. It does not do it on all movies. I'm not sure if it has to do with the DVD2AVI process or if it's in the encoding part. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks

[Xitrum]

I had a same problem too, but I think in my case it was my Pioneer A04 burner. I upgraded the bios in the burner to v2.41 which worked fined with the new 4x media, however, whenever, I used the old media (1x or 2x) with the new bios, I get a similar problem. When I used the old bios version (v1.2) by using the hacked upgrade software to downgrade my bios, and burned the movie on the old 1x or 2x media, they worked fine.

[GrandMstrBud]

When I have this problem it does not appear to be a problem when burning the DVD. I go back and check the .mpv file and it has the glitch in there also. Now it makes me wonder if it's part of the .vaf file creation process of CCE. I will do some further testing and see if I can come up with anything.

[Blackout]

I have the exact same problem, so has a friend, he thinks theres a bug in 2.67 in detecting scene changes. I think hes right. Its embedded in the mpg files that CCE2.67 encodes. And its nearly always a burst of blocks on a scene change. Looks like Cinemacraft have screwed something up. I cant beleive more ppl arent screaming about this, maybe they just arent paying attention to their encodes.

Swap to 2.66, and the problem is gone.

Blackout

[ibilisi]

Originally posted by Blackout

Swap to 2.66, and the problem is gone.

Blackout

Thanks- I'll try that!

[GrandMstrBud]

I don't believe it is a version problem as I've tried it with 2.5, 2.66, and 2.67. It does not do it all the time and if it does it's a split second through a whole movie. I look for it but the average person will more than likely not notice it.