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neo_born
30th June 2003, 22:07
Hey There Guys,
I am rather confused about some issues related to ripping etc and wonder if some of you could shed some light on the subject for me. The questions I have are:
1. On non-encrypted discs is the format usually a VOB/IFO format?
2. If I want to copy a DVD that is non-encrypted can I just copy it with windows to my desktop to encode then burn to a VCD if I choose?
3. What happens if I copy a store bought/owned commercial movie with windows and just drag n drop it?
4. Will I be able to watch this movie from my desktop?
5. Are there any non-DeCSS rippers out there for ripping non-encrypted DVDs?
6. What format is best to be viewed on the most DVD players?
7. Are there any tools for doing this (freeware preferably) that can do all this and put the movie on the DVD-R without using any commercial software e.g Nero?
Thanks for all your help and input in advance. Have a great day guys.
dani82
1st July 2003, 10:55
1. as far as i know, yes
2.it's recommended that you uses a decrypter (dvddecrypter or smartripper) to copy the files on to your computer
3. you shouldn't do that cause some dvds has multi-angles; the audio track may not be the one you want to listen to, and something about macrovision
4. see #1, and only if you have the right codecs installed.
5. all dvd rippers either rips or de-crypt
6. DVD
7. doubt it
RoopeT
10th July 2003, 09:46
7) DVDDecrypter for DVD-5. DVDDecrypter + DVDShrink for DVD-9
Xesdeeni
10th July 2003, 15:37
1. On non-encrypted discs is the format usually a VOB/IFO format?Yes, all video DVDs have this format.2. If I want to copy a DVD that is non-encrypted can I just copy it with windows to my desktop to encode then burn to a VCD if I choose?That's actually two questions.
Yes, you can just copy the DVD with Windows.
No, you can't just burn a VCD. You will have to convert the video from DVD format to VCD format. DVDs are almost always 720x480/576. Standard VCDs are 352x240/288. DVDs store about 7 times the data of a CD, so to fit the same amount of video, you need the bit rate to be about 1/7 the original DVD.3. What happens if I copy a store bought/owned commercial movie with windows and just drag n drop it?You will get the VOB/IFO/BUP files on your hard drive. But the VOB files are encrypted. So if you try to play the files you copied, the video will be corrupted.4. Will I be able to watch this movie from my desktop?No. Part of the key to decrypt the data is on the DVD, and part is in the player/ripper. Since you moved the files from the DVD, the player can't get part of the key, so it can't decrypt them.5. Are there any non-DeCSS rippers out there for ripping non-encrypted DVDs?Any ripper can copy a non-encrypted DVD, but there is no need to do that. If the DVD is not encrypted, you only have to copy the files with Windows. These files you can then play from your hard drive.6. What format is best to be viewed on the most DVD players?I assume you mean between VCD, DVD-R, and DVD+R. There is some debate, but my research and experimentation has shown that both DVD+R and DVD-R tend to be playable in about the same amount of players. About 85% of stand-alone DVD players will play either. VCDs are playable in almost all DVD players, although some older DVD players have trouble with CD-Rs (you can get VCDs that are pressed like audio CDs, and they work fine). See the database at http:\\dvdrhelp.com for info on specific players.7. Are there any tools for doing this (freeware preferably) that can do all this and put the movie on the DVD-R without using any commercial software e.g Nero?The free tools make you do more work (aren't completely automatic), but yes you can do all this for free. Note that if you bought a DVD burner, you'd get a burning program, often Nero itself, so that base is covered. Even if the burning program doesn't support DVD-Video specifically, using a UDF format DVD data disc and putting the correct VOB/IFO/BUP files in the correct VIDEO_TS directory will result in a playable DVD. Search Doom9 for more info.
Xesdeeni
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