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zerohash
24th June 2003, 16:21
Dear Sir,

I have a DVD Maestro with me.Is there any royalty to be made if i use CSS and Macrovision.Or replicators have to pay for the same.

Thanking you.

Zerohash

Lord of the Discs
24th June 2003, 22:19
I believe thatīs in the price you pay to your replicators,
and if not, they sure know how it is managed.

LotD

coona
25th June 2003, 00:57
I guess you have to pay some fees for each DVD-VIDEO you made. But on the other side this fees are included in empty media you buy so you do not have to worry about that :D.

Arky
25th June 2003, 05:00
Originally posted by coona
I guess you have to pay some fees for each DVD-VIDEO you made. But on the other side this fees are included in empty media you buy so you do not have to worry about that :D.

No, you pay a substantial license fee (approx five US cents) per pressed disk for the protection code. This doesn't sound like much but it soon adds up. Also note that standard consumer DVDR media are not designed for Macrovision or CSS - for these you would require a disk to be commercially pressed or (perhaps - I'm not 100% certain) be written using a Pioneer DVR-S201 DVD-R Authoring drive, which costs several thousand dollars ( http://www.meritline.com/piondvdvdrec5.html )

There has already been discussion on this forum in the past regarding whether or not it is actually worth the expense of implementing a protection scheme which is easily circumventable by anyone wishing to make a copy of a DVD anyway. It's a farcical situation and I find it remarkable that the big studios still pay Macrovision such extraordinary sums to implement virtually redundant protection.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31700&highlight=macrovision+arky

and regarding post-authoring Macrovision/CSS implementation, see here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44060&highlight=macrovision+arky

Interestingly, Columbia Tristar did not bother to protect it's SuperBit versions of Men in Black and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, and Warner Home Video did not bother to protect Harry Potter, either.

"Hollywood may have decided that it is cheaper to let a few people copy than spend money on protection." (Original New Scientist articles here):

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993034

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99992404


Arky ;o)

mpucoder
25th June 2003, 05:25
Authoring DVD-R are not protected, but they contain the information for the replicator to press protected disks. See this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=277503&highlight=macrovision+css#post277503)

oddyseus
25th June 2003, 08:54
To second Arky's arguments, I will add this. In Greece 95% of the commercial DVD's r released un-encrypted. For Macrovision I can't tell, since I am not trying to tape my dvds. But CSS is history here.

srfscenar
25th June 2003, 11:30
as far as i know guys, the fee for having the CSS protection copyrights is 10000$ per year.So...i believe that the replicator has to manage that.BUT, scenarist and i guess Maestro(do not know) has the ability to leave the exported dlt or dvd-r for authoring "open" so the replicator could insert the CSS key.
Now for the Macrovision i think its free to be authored with Scenarist.

auenf
25th June 2003, 16:50
from memory the macrovision is free, but you have to sign an agreement or something.

altho macrovision and css are so easily defeated, is it worth the extra expense?

Enf...

coona
25th June 2003, 23:35
Okey,

i did a small research. Now I know a lot about pressing CD/DVDs but only a little about Macrovision and CSS.

You have to pay for each DVD you press some money (3 or 5 cents) to Philips because of its patent (Philips give some share to Sony). Next you have to pay to some japanase foundation for using DVD-VIDEO logo (but it is only some symbolic "gift"). You should (but you neednīt) also pay to IFPI some fees. To be able press DVDs you need mastering. Mastering package (it consists of SW, some chemical lab,...) doesnīt include CSS or Macrovison - it is optional, so you have to sign some licence contract to be able to use them.

Just some info - nothing more :).

zerohash
28th June 2003, 09:05
Thanks every one.i belive that owner of Maestro S/W dont have to pay any royalty and the replicators have to pay for the same.

Thanking You.