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rickhuizinga
22nd June 2003, 05:51
I've read through the threads in this forum, and it appears that the general consensus is that Instant Copy 7 produces better quality backups than DVD Shrink 1.03, 2.0.
Now that DVD Shrink 2.1+ has changed its transcoding algorithm to produce better quality video, is Instant Copy 7 still the king of the one-click backup solutions?
Thanks,
Rick
m1482
22nd June 2003, 13:10
Now that DVD Shrink 2.1+ has changed its transcoding algorithm to produce better quality video, is Instant Copy 7 still the king of the one-click backup solutions? Yes!!! I only hope that IC would solve prediction size issues an make the process faster...
Fmazzanti
22nd June 2003, 16:31
I've encoded Walt Disney's Dinosurs with IC7, DVDShrink 2.0 and 2.3 (three copies of the same thing :rolleyes: ) and IC as the winner. Then came Shrink 2.0 and behaind them Shrink 2.3. You see the differences wjen compression rates grow...
Why DVDShrink moved to a worse quality? I don't know, but I hope theyfix that and they do it soon! I'd rather use a free tool like this one than use IC which you have to pay for. Still, I find Shrink's quality unacceptable (that's my opinion based on zillion+ encodes with CCE).
mrbass
22nd June 2003, 20:35
hmm well I've changed my opinion with the new dvdshrink 2.3. With 1.03 dvdshrink I would never exceed level 2 and tried to avoid level 2. I did gladitor level 6 (30%) with dvdhsrink 2.3 and also dances with wolves level 6 and I'm satisfied. I'd say it's improved with the new "each and every frame". Before it was B frame or I frame or P frame and combination thereof so the eyes were skipping the bad parts. I'd say if your a purist for quality don't exceed 15% (level 3) or 20% (level 4). Some have stated level 8 is ok ..and I guess it is for like TV episodes or what not but I wouldn't use level 7 or 8 on a good flick.
True IC7 has better quality than dvdshrink..no arguement about that. The only beef I have with IC7 (speed isn't too much an issue with me) is trying to hit the target size.
loggy
22nd June 2003, 21:14
Reading all the praise for IC7 I'd sure like to compare it myself.
I do movie-only exclusively--but I've seen no simple guide to do such with IC7 that'll give a nice, full 4.36 output (like D2O 1.2.0).
Or am I reading the wrong guides? For movie-only, can one cut all extras save AC3-6ch and the English sub, then get IC7 to crunch for a predictable output size?
Are any developers at Pinnacle even reading these forums--you'd think they'd have updated IC to handle simple movie-only/non-episodic's in a predictable fashion? Surely they've better resources to throw at the problem than most of their competitors who are long past that 'issue'...?
Allistah
23rd June 2003, 02:37
I've dumped IC for DVDShrink 2.3. IC might look a little better but with IC I was having to run it though twice to get it close to the output I wanted. I was always having to tip toe around all the issues that IC had. DVDShrink just works for me and the final size is pretty much right on. The quality is such that I can't really tell a difference on my7 36" tv. Oh plus the speed! DVDShrink is SO much faster. :)
Long live DVDShrink!!
-Allistah
mrbass
23rd June 2003, 07:28
yep I'm pretty much done what Allistah has done "I've dumped IC for DVDShrink 2.3" couldn't agree more.
loggy
23rd June 2003, 14:34
Really...
Tell me--other than price, what does Shrink offer (for movie-only) that D2O-1.2 does not? Better quality compressions?
And what do you think of CloneDVD? Also better than IC for video quality?
xmenxmen
23rd June 2003, 22:38
For me, I use all 3 (DVDShrink, DVD95copy and D2O). Depends on the movie, I use one or the other. And to me and to me alone anyway, all of them product decent enough quality.
On movies with tons of extra, definitely dvd95 as it blows them away.
Movies with maybe 500 to 1G of extra and movie not too big, either DVDShrink or DVD95.
For movies with little to no extra, definitely D2O for the speed.
And before anyone say anything, I watch everything on my Panny 53" HDTV.
BTW, I do love the way the new navigation in v2 of DVDShrink.
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