closing a thread

[ammer]

to end a subject of conversation, could be considered a form of censorship.

[killingspree]

hey man!??
i'm not sure what you want! what's the purpose of this post and your last one?
you agreed to the forum rules when you signed up for the forum... now i guess you got to live by and with them!

steVe

[bilu]

@killingspree


you agreed to the forum rules when you signed up for the forum... now i guess you got to live by and with them!


I believe it makes sense to explain why, not just say "do it because you signed it". Forum rules are no licence agreement. People are flexible enough to change the rules to what they feel that works best. That's what have been made until now.


15) Political discussion not directly related to DVD backup issues are prohibited.


This is an example of a rule that didn't existed at the beginning but made sense to create it afterwards. My point is that both new users and old users and moderators should try to explain their points of view, the reasons why things should or shouldn't change.

This is what happened so far and that's why this forum rules are so efective. Because everyone is trying to improve them.

I'll search and expose my opinion to ammer later.

Bilu

[Koepi]

We're not here to discuss or justify the way we act. (I.e. closing a thread is often nexessary to stop flame wars - or no-use threads.) We have certain rules and a special theme: DVD backup. These rules help us remaining at a high standard and to have very few off topics - contrary to other boards and sites where no such rules are valid.

If you feel like our rules are too harsh for you - then just don't come to this place but use the other forums.

By coming back here you show us that our rules have to be correct as _here_ you can find the information you need.

If you want to complain about something, you should earn the respect of the people first so they start listening, and here you do this by being helpful to people. Not by starting your first threads (read: post count 25) as possible flame threads and "political" discussions.

I'm as well a little confused about what you want to achieve with your last 2 posts. Please clearify.

Note to ourselfes: we should explain the use of the rules bold on the rules-page.

Regards
Koepi

[killingspree]

@bilu: ok i guess you're right... i just got a bit fed up because it is the second sensless post in a row...

anyway ammer didn't make any points either... just a short sentence stating his opinion... so please ammer, if you can explain why you feel this way, please do so!
i personally don't think closing a thread is censorship because everything is still visible. most of the time a thread gets closed for the protection of the forum and the nice climate in here. if every flamewar was just left open with no consequences whatsoever we'd have them all over the place and that's for sure not what we want. if you just express your manner in a nice and civilized way, your thread is not going to get closed!

edit: hmmm koepi was faster...

steVe

[ammer]

about the political discussion rule i would suggest a separate forum extension that would include political topics for the politically minded but that would be unconstructive and would lead to controversy and much debate.

i just want to nullify some rules and challenge some others. i'm not trying to start a flame war thread or political discussion, but i'd like to point out some points of matter and perhaps shed an ample helping of light on the subject if that's becomes an extra affect.

do you really believe that
"By coming back here you show us that our rules have to be correct as _here_ you can find the information you need."
i believe that by coming back here i can find information about backing up dvds and video encoding and audio encoding.

respect would be welcomed.

[bilu]

"i believe that by coming back here i can find information about backing up dvds and video encoding and audio encoding."

Let's keep it that way, shall we? There are plenty other forums for the rest.


Bilu

[Ookami]

respect would be welcomed.

Respect must be earned. Not to mention that if you give no respect you don't deserve any, anyway.

i believe that by coming back here i can find information about backing up dvds and video encoding and audio encoding.

Yes, but these infos are here because of the helpfull members of this community.

And the rules which prevent this forum following the way of many others, after a few years being in the scene I can say that this is the best approach. I like more the, romantic and idealistic, approach from Q-bert, but the reality clearly showed that this was no way to do it. I find it very amusing, e.g. reading on Hydrogenaudio threads in wich people bashed Doom9's board/approach/certain mods (back then HA was a small and young puppy, BTW), now, only to see that it started to use a harsher and harsher approach as the time goes. Makes you think, doesn't it? You cannot use the same approach when you have a forum with 20 user, and a forum with 20.000 users... Let alone when you have a forum about a topic that is the "in" thing lately.

I was the mod who was most vocal against any striking rules etc., but now I see that I was clearly wrong and I must congratulate Doom9 for his visions and great knowledge, and, of course, the whole team who is also a big part of it all.

Not to mention the multitude of helpfull and kind members who are here, who,also, should be thanked for their contributions and work.

Remember, a forum is only as good as it's members (ok, in this one the team members are also very active ;) ), so rules etc. don't help a thing if you don't have the user base wich makes the forum being wortwhile to dwell in it.

Sigh, I'm rambling, again, don't think that it will help a bit, so I'll stop it, but I'll be damned if I'm not going to press the submit reply button. ;)

Anway, the discord members are in the minority, but sadly, they do the job very well in most cases...

Cheers,

Mijo.

[Doom9]

to end a subject of conversation, could be considered a form of censorship. I fully agree with you there. That is why the moderators have even stricter rules governing their duties and powers than than regular members have with the forum rules. Closing a thread should come with a closing statement explaining why the action was necessary. You do not have to agree with the reasons or the action taken, however, when you signed up, you agreed that the moderator team has the power to edit, delete or close any thread for any reason. Thus, by clicking I agree you signed a virtual contract. We're going to honor our part in that agreement, the question is, will you honor yours? If you wish to nullify that contract, you can of course do that by asking an admin to remove your account.

[ammer]

closing a thread is censoring, its baning something that maybe regarded as harmful and it prevents future conversation of the subject.

you see ookami a member could only be good as a forum allows it to be, so as a forum allows it to be that good then it'll just be that good. so as good as it is let it be more good.

yes i contest and loathe these constricting rules.
i don't know about you ookami but im blinded by this and it makes pale and ill.

i don't know koepi i just keep on click on site when i find it on the search results.

did i agree with those reasons or actions, they were probably in fine print. if you honor those agreements then agree with me by changing the rules, but only if the current rules are overturned though.

oh heavens, please don't do that doom9. that would be a travesty. Upsetting that contract would probably be a better thing. and removing my account would be a far terrible thing to do, but i'll put that option into consideration. thanks for informing me of that. thanks that might suck though, i'd be null of furthering more posts, i suppose.

[Ookami]

Yes, closing a thread can be viewed as censorship, but so can many things. There are reasons why threads are closed and they are never (in my experience) because the moderator disagrees with the topic, don't like the member etc. etc.

>you see ookami a member could only be good as a forum allows it to be, so as a forum allows it to be that good then it'll just be that good. so as good as it is let it be more good.

Ok, you suggest something better, we will all be happy to hear about it. There is a extra forum for suggestions, make a a thread there were you exactly write what should be changed and why. I'll be happy to read it...

I adore reading different opions than mine if they are made clearly and with something that backs them up, not to mention that discussions where everyone agrees are boring.

Also, this "too harsh" thingy has been discussed numerous times, so excuse us, if we tend to reply, often, harsh... Make a search.

Cheers,

Mijo.

[wmansir]

Your right in saying that closing a thread is censorship. BUT censorship isn't always a bad thing. If you read the forum rules you will see that there is a lot of censorship here. NO warez, NO profanity, NO spam, NO cross-posting, NO political discussion, heck most of the rules are some form of censorship, and that's a good thing.

I don't want to speak for Doom9, but IMHO he is not trying to make a place where it's cool to hang out, get high and beat up that skinny kid with asthma, he is trying to build an technical A/V resource.

It may seem harsh when people say "If you don't like it leave", but that's the way it is. Most people don't have a problem conforming to the rules in the real world, but think they should be able to do whatever they want online.

If you want to hang out, go to a park, if you want to learn, go to the library. But if you try and hang out in the library, don't complain about the librarian when he Shhhes you.

[dragongodz]

ammer are you in to conspirecy theories by any chance ? i ask since that seems to be what the 2 posts (the one about anon mod strikes and this one) seem to suggest. first you are worried or dont like anon strikes and now you dont like threads being closed even though hey may have turned in to flame wars or break rules etc.

all of society has rules/laws. you may not like some either here or in real life but it takes the people in power to make the end decisions. live with it.

[ammer]

i'm sorry i could probably use some more work on clarizing, censors could probably clear things on censorizing more(maybe US censors), but i've explained why closing a thread may be censoring. It hinders post conversations existing thread, which may be considered by moderators of opposing views.

On the suggestion matter, i'll post one as soon as i find one. But i'm sure i have some kept somewhere around. I'll be sure put it up for everyone to see. reply is your option. agreement brings consensusness and closure, however though, occasionally it prevents chaotism, opposition and maybe some fun.

Yes, it is too harsh and it upsets me. What a good suggestion i'll try it as much as i can. thank you.

[killingspree]

Originally posted by wmansir

If you want to hang out, go to a park, if you want to learn, go to the library. But if you try and hang out in the library, don't complain about the librarian when he Shhhes you.

wmansir, I have to say you really got it to the point there! congrats!

steVe

[bilu]

Originally posted by Doom9
That is why the moderators have even stricter rules governing their duties and powers than than regular members have with the forum rules.

Would it bring value to make this rules public? :confused:

Bilu

[Doom9]

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So much for fine print.. it's right above the I agree button.

if you honor those agreements then agree with me by changing the rules, but only if the current rules are overturned though.
I'm afraid my miserable brain is not able to compute that.

i don't know about you ookami but im blinded by this and it makes pale and ill.Hopefully an eye doctor and a pedeatritian (hope I picked the right lingo.. I'm not familiar with those terms.. in fact I'm afraid of going to hospitals) can help you with that because I sure can't.
Again, you said you agree to those rules by clicking a button labelled "I agree". Thus, now that you have finally realized what you've gotten yourself into I have implied the possibility that you can cancel the contract. I did not mean to imply that I would delete your account because I don't like you here (that is irrelevant, as long as you conform to the rules you can stay here whether I like you or not), but because maybe you didn't wish to be here because the rules you agreed to make you blind, pale and sick. So, if the only way you can get well again is if you don't have to live with those rules anymore, then please do everyone a favor and ask me or any of my co-admins to remove your account right now to stop your suffering.

[ammer]

wmansir, i do like to beatup skinnykids with asthma and i like to read about technical resources and all those unholy things.

rule conformity is bad, those who do should be reprimanded and punished accordingly. it's a little easier to do it online, more could posted on forum posting them on some bulletin board and going back there every 10 mins, whatever the frequent. why give that up.

but the books are always checked out and they keep refering me to some library across town that makes it such a long trip to drive around all over. i'm usually in the group discussion room so there not much sshshhhing there.

dragongodz, its a big conspiracy. all the mods, sub-mods, pro-mods, supreme-mods and super-mods are conspiring to censor (neo the interogation room) we. unfortunately i took the red pill and went back to wonderland and forgot everything. (knew i should have just taken both of them). yes i'm fickle like that. i'm sorry that its gone that direction.

though society plays a big part in my life (maybe more than you may presume it to be, for anyones for that matter) but i tend to do what i can and live with my computer and my pet monkey. but if it was up to me i'd free the monkeys from the zoos and give everyone some free beers. (tax'll pay for it)

doom9, i have not seen that page. that page is different, its been doctored. am i somehow binded by agreeing to the signup agreement? looks complicated, uh tan theta=sin theta/cos theta.

that would be a pediatrician, im a little too old for those doctors. but, i could use some help for my vision (or there lack of) and ailments. sure you can, just send me a big (and i stress big) pitless bank check to me and i'll be alright. yeah i hate when those doctor are working on me let out an "oops, maybe i should take that out"

So, your implying that you don't like me and you'd delete my account if your were to. my condition is beside the point ok. i didn't wish to be here because i didnt want to. if i were donated a large sum of unmarked real US benjamin currency capitol that would probably reverse my outcome. Better yet, just send a lot of money. There's this nice 52' plasma tv i've been looking at.

[bilu]

@ammer

I really have trouble understanding your English.... :rolleyes:
Or maybe you don't like to follow grammar rules :devil:


Bilu

[bilu]

wmansir, i do like to beatup skinnykids with asthma and i like to read about technical resources and all those unholy things.


People are treated equally here, even if you DO want to become the skinny kid...


rule conformity is bad, those who do should be reprimanded and punished accordingly. it's a little easier to do it online, more could posted on forum posting them on some bulletin board and going back there every 10 mins, whatever the frequent. why give that up.


So you're saying 24h/day ruling over chaotic members... we would hardly have ONE valuable thread. That's the best way to kill a forum.


but the books are always checked out and they keep refering me to some library across town that makes it such a long trip to drive around all over. i'm usually in the group discussion room so there not much sshshhhing there.


If you read in a library, you have to be silent to respect the others. It isn't hard to understand.


dragongodz, its a big conspiracy. all the mods, sub-mods, pro-mods, supreme-mods and super-mods are conspiring to censor (neo the interogation room) we. unfortunately i took the red pill and went back to wonderland and forgot everything. (knew i should have just taken both of them). yes i'm fickle like that. i'm sorry that its gone that direction.


Build your own forum and follow your own rules. Then you'll taste your own poison... with a forum full of Cyphers (the traitor from Matrix I) doing everything they please and respecting no one but themselves.


though society plays a big part in my life (maybe more than you may presume it to be, for anyones for that matter) but i tend to do what i can and live with my computer and my pet monkey. but if it was up to me i'd free the monkeys from the zoos and give everyone some free beers. (tax'll pay for it)


I guess you're anarchist by nature. Good for you.


doom9, i have not seen that page. that page is different, its been doctored. am i somehow binded by agreeing to the signup agreement? looks complicated, uh tan theta=sin theta/cos theta.


Looks like the red pill had secondary effects.... :D


that would be a pediatrician, im a little too old for those doctors. but, i could use some help for my vision (or there lack of) and ailments. sure you can, just send me a big (and i stress big) pitless bank check to me and i'll be alright. yeah i hate when those doctor are working on me let out an "oops, maybe i should take that out"


.... no comments.


So, your implying that you don't like me and you'd delete my account if your were to. my condition is beside the point ok. i didn't wish to be here because i didnt want to. if i were donated a large sum of unmarked real US benjamin currency capitol that would probably reverse my outcome. Better yet, just send a lot of money. There's this nice 52' plasma tv i've been looking at.


We should make a new rule for the forum: Post sober. :sly:



Bilu

[bilu]

Originally posted by ammer
i'm sorry i could probably use some more work on clarizing, censors could probably clear things on censorizing more(maybe US censors), but i've explained why closing a thread may be censoring. It hinders post conversations existing thread, which may be considered by moderators of opposing views.


This very same thread is being an example of having moderators and others discussing against your opposing view and it ain't closed yet. :)


Bilu

[MvB]

i'm usually in the group discussion room so there not much sshshhhing there.

Soso. What would the people in your discussion group say if you change the subject to something that's not productive and that has nothing to do with the subject that was to be discussed? If they wanna learn somthing for their math exams and you always talk about political things and your holidays and everything? Don't you think they would 'shhhhh' you then? Sometimes "censorship" can be used for good too. I wouldn't call that censorship anyway, because you've enought possibilities talk about these thing anywhere else. If your topic isn't wanted here, you will be told and you have the possibility to continue with interested people in another forum, that is maybe more related to your topic.
I think you have to understand that there have to be rules to keep such a big forum running with a handful of mods and if you break some of these rules this forum may be closed, so i think that's not what you want.


all the mods, sub-mods, pro-mods, supreme-mods and super-mods are conspiring to censor (neo the interogation room) we. unfortunately i took the red pill and went back to wonderland and forgot everything. (knew i should have just taken both of them). yes i'm fickle like that. i'm sorry that its gone that direction.

There is a difference: Neo couldn't say:" I do not agree with your methods, i go now."
Nobody is forcing you to stay here.

So, your implying that you don't like me and you'd delete my account if your were to.

Here your're getting personally against doom9. :devil: Besides, I think doom9 is the guy how can delete your account at once if he wishes. He said: "I did not mean to imply that I would delete your account because I don't like you here (that is irrelevant, as long as you conform to the rules you can stay here whether I like you or not), but because maybe you didn't wish to be here because the rules you agreed to make you blind, pale and sick."
That's, in my opinion, neutral with the negative aspects you included into this thread.

I don't think this thread makes much sense anymore. There is a suggestions group here where such things should be discussed in a constructive manner.

If you want to change something, than post your proposition there and the mods will tell you if that's something reasonable or not. But accusing people who (i think) do their job pretty well isn't the way to go.
i just want to nullify some rules and challenge some others.
You don't have the power to do that. As said before, i think if you have a constructive proposal post it in the suggestions group and see what happens. But if a mod tells you that's not possible you should accept that. It's not your board.

MvB

Just my 2 €cents

[bilu]

@ammer

One last thing before I go party tonight... :D

How do you think this forum has become the biggest and preferred to most developers and most important open-source encoding projects? :sly:


Just for thought.


Bilu

[Doom9]

@ammer: I don't know whether it's your knowledge of English but you're effectively turning around my words about the account deletion by 180 degrees.

doom9, i have not seen that page. that page is different, its been doctored. Now you've done it. Logout from the board, press the register button and see for yourself, then strike yourself for rule4 because groundless accusations are insulting.

I'm going to say this once and once only: In many countries, people operating bulletin boards are actually legally responsible for what is being posted on their board. If you were to insult somebody in this board and that person would sue, chances are good I'd have to go to court in your place. Thus, it is in the interest of each and every person operating a board to cover oneself from such liabilities by forbidding certain things and take action (call it censorship if you like) whenever appropriate. If you want to take away my right to edit, close and delete, what you'll effectively do is not only start anarchy, but also expose me to legal liabilities which could result in me having to go to prison because you said something. So, do I have to assume that this is where you'd like me to go? Send other people behind bars so that you can say and do whatever you want online? Well, if you're looking for someone to sacrifice himself for you, better look someplace else.

[mf]

Originally posted by bilu
We should make a new rule for the forum: Post sober. :sly:
What, you didn't like my cornholio post? :D

[bilu]

@mf

post me the link :D

Bilu

[ammer]

hey, you can sue me for slander. i didn't look at that page, i just saw that agree button. i don't read very well sometimes, but as doctored as my inability to read is, if that could result in someone innocent going to god unwillingly a confining institution then i revert all statements and opt to exonerate that person (including doom9)of all liabilities i that may inflict upon making such statements there then and after. that is if it were untrue, but the reversion still remains. and also my apologies for any damages during the process. i seek no sacrifices but only accusations for which no ground holds or at least it appears.

thanks for the rule4 strike(and also double in that case) anon. i'm insulted by such an insult. in light of insults, what constitutes an insult by the way, or profanity, in the forum. the rule mentions no depth of scope for which it encompasses. being in the forum, would that hold as angering someone or insulting them. (for example purposes only, please don't liberally strike me for that-heading for cover.) after the afore-mentioned statements above, would the rule4 strikes be withdrawn for neglect and should i say failure to provide such guidelines.

How do you think this forum has become the biggest and preferred to most developers and most important open-source encoding projects?

bilu, i say players of the classic game doom added to the popularity for which this forum holds guilty of, but that could just be some far off hypothesis.

Soso. What would the people in your discussion group say if you change the subject to something that's not productive and that has nothing to do with the subject that was to be discussed? If they wanna learn somthing for their math exams and you always talk about political things and your holidays and everything? Don't you think they would 'shhhhh' you then? Sometimes "censorship" can be used for good too. I wouldn't call that censorship anyway, because you've enought possibilities talk about these thing anywhere else. If your topic isn't wanted here, you will be told and you have the possibility to continue with interested people in another forum, that is maybe more related to your topic.

mvb those are all very valid points and i respect that mind you, but it would take me an immeasurable length of time to address each and every solution that pertains to using another forum because everyone would begin to use that answer for all of lifes problems and there would be no end to it. and i do hope that the rules keep the forum running at full speed (it'd be a shame if it didn't) even with only a handful of mods, and of course i wouldn't want this forum to close, it would only contribute to a curtailing of ... you fill in the blank. too numerous to mention.

i just want to nullify some rules and challenge some others.

You don't have the power to do that. As said before, i think if you have a constructive proposal post it in the suggestions group and see what happens. But if a mod tells you that's not possible you should accept that. It's not your board.

my name's neo, but i hope others would find it in their power to do so.

People are treated equally here, even if you DO want to become the skinny kid...

hey i like being the skinny kid even if people keep on beating me up. not that it happens very often of course, maybe the opposite.
:devil:

If you read in a library, you have to be silent to respect the others. It isn't hard to understand.

not if the library consists of you being in a discussion room with a group of discussees discussing mathematics, politics, and video encoding.

Build your own forum and follow your own rules. Then you'll taste your own poison... with a forum full of Cyphers (the traitor from Matrix I) doing everything they please and respecting no one but themselves.

sorry i haven't got the will, time, patients, resources or Cyphers to do that. but if i did, hopefully the poison will also work as a catalyst to rot away my dead lifeless corps after i die and also before anyone can recognize it and formulate some sick plan to put it into deep cryogenic freeze for the only purpose of cloning it and building an army of zombie clones to over take the world, and in the case that it didn't turn out as planned, maybe they'd just do as lotd says and piss on it for the simple pleasure of amusement.

I guess you're anarchist by nature. Good for you.

when the situation demands it. let authorities be warned. i've seen the matrix. free your mind. -the matrix and maybe you'll see that there's not much there. :devil:

Looks like the red pill had secondary effects....

i was hoping for hallucinogenic affects (bet cypher would've had that)

We should make a new rule for the forum: Post sober.

your suggestion reminds me of the question in the song by tool, sober, which might somehow help out with this case.

I really have trouble understanding your English....

i don't know, ask some english teacher, they're alway willing proof read some writting. (unless you turn it in a week later, but then they'll drop your grade down one letter and you'll never the a your trying get. or worse yet no grade at all)

phew, i've all but push submit reply. here goes

[Doom9]

after the afore-mentioned statements above, would the rule4 strikes be withdrawn for neglect and should i say failure to provide such guidelines.

let me answer your quote with another quote: If you wish to contest a strike send a PM to Doom9 with a reference to the post in question and an explanation why you think the strike is not justified. In case of a suspension you can send a complaint to strikes at doom9 dot org. The email is only to be used in case of a suspension and you forfeit your right to an appeal if you use it to contest a regular strike not leading to a suspension. By publicly complaining about a strike, or go badmouthing this forum and its members on another board you also forfeit your rights to an appeal.

Now you should be able to answer your question by yourself.

Anyway, this has gotten way too far. You are the classic case of a troll, trying to find out how far the rules can be bent. Well.. since I created the matrix, I can reprogram it at any time and I can decide to send an army of agents your way (Smith is shit against what I have in store). Now I present you with two pills: Take the red one, you agree to never again troll and you'll be permitted to remain in wonderland. Take the blue one, continue down that road you're going (quoting Trinity: "You've been down there. You know exactly where it ends") and you'll end up back in your pod, supplying my matrix with energy for 30 days, upon which, any attempt to re-enter the matrix from outside your pod will result in an army of agents supervising your every move and if you would so much as cross the line, sentinels will sever your brain plug. Is that clear enough, Mr Anderson?

[Hiro2k]

Originally posted by Doom9

Anyway, this has gotten way too far. You are the classic case of a troll, trying to find out how far the rules can be bent. Well.. since I created the matrix, I can reprogram it at any time and I can decide to send an army of agents your way (Smith is shit against what I have in store). Now I present you with two pills: Take the red one, you agree to never again troll and you'll be permitted to remain in wonderland. Take the blue one, continue down that road you're going (quoting Trinity: "You've been down there. You know exactly where it ends") and you'll end up back in your pod, supplying my matrix with energy for 30 days, upon which, any attempt to re-enter the matrix from outside your pod will result in an army of agents supervising your every move and if you would so much as cross the line, sentinels will sever your brain plug. Is that clear enough, Mr Anderson?


ROFL

Moderator PWNAGE



I agree with Doom9's and everyone else's post about censorship. But most of the time that threads are closed are because that user has double posted and so there is no use in 2 threads existing over the same subject. The other's that I have seen closed, are threads like this, obious troll's with no point.

[bilu]

I'm glad to see this mexican novel coming to an end... :rolleyes:


Bilu

[bilu]

Originally posted by Hiro2k
I agree with Doom9's and everyone else's post about censorship. But most of the time that threads are closed are because that user has double posted and so there is no use in 2 threads existing over the same subject. The other's that I have seen closed, are threads like this, obious troll's with no point.

About 2 threads on the same subject, I've also seen them being merged when both have valuable posts.


Bilu