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ammer
20th June 2003, 10:57
who would i accuse of giving bad strikes when i was stricken? what if i was seeking an appeal? where would this appeal point to? any comments, replies?

killingspree
20th June 2003, 11:02
for sure not in the gereral discussion...
if you think you have been treated unfairly, please either contact the forum moderator of the forum that you have posted your "strikeworthy" post in, or contact doom9 personally.
here (http://forum.doom9.org/sanctions.htm)'s the link to the page where everything is explained...

i quote:
If you wish to contest a strike send a PM to Doom9 with a reference to the post in question and an explanation why you think the strike is not justified. In case of a suspension you can send a complaint to strikes at doom9 dot org. The email is only to be used in case of a suspension and you forfeit your right to an appeal if you use it to contest a regular strike not leading to a suspension. By publicly complaining about a strike, or go badmouthing this forum and its members on another board you also forfeit your rights to an appeal.


steVe

bilu
20th June 2003, 11:03
http://forum.doom9.org/sanctions.htm

Bilu

ammer
20th June 2003, 11:31
let the accused be accused, be it may a general discussion moderator.

bb
20th June 2003, 11:39
Originally posted by ammer
let the accused be accused, be it may a general discussion moderator.
What are you going to tell us? Who's been accused of what? Are you in the mood of ranting, or what?

bb

bilu
20th June 2003, 11:42
Originally posted by ammer
let the accused be accused, be it may a general discussion moderator.

Besides being ironic, what is the message you want to pass?
I'm still trying to figure out :rolleyes:

Bilu

Ookami
20th June 2003, 11:51
@ammer

When I'm reading certain threads this days, I'm more and more inclined not to be sorry for leaving the great moderator team.

I suggest you to read Doom9's posting about Accepting a gift properly, I have yet to see a guide, program or a big contribution in the forum by you.

If you have something to say "let the accused be accused, be it may a general discussion moderator" then speak up (and be, probably, striked for it :rolleyes: , but at least you told what you meant and weren't going the "I'm only implying things, because..." way) or go the normal way of contacting one of the admins/Doom9 and telling about the problematic moderator/team member.

My opinion is that the Doom9 team members are the most helpfull and active (with some addition of non mod members like Herske, wmansir, int21h etc. and the whole ex-mod bunch when they have time) of all the members here.

I only can wish that you will do the same for the community like the bad mods from General discussion, but I'm rather sceptic about that. Maybe because most of the people that rant away, are usually the same who don't like being helpfull and active, but it could also be be, because of my scewed view of this virtual reality.

Cheers,

Mijo.

ammer
20th June 2003, 13:35
there's nothing wrong with the doom9 team members and others prior mentioned, it's just that i'd like to do away with the anomity bit. the subject of the matter is that it just leaves too much doubt to whos doing what on the forum and is overprotective of the mods and seems to be a coverup counter-measure for mods when an appeal comes away.

and what does the bad mods do? am i just ranting? i'm just stating my opinion about the subject and hopefully bring others to see something from a different facet.

Doom9
20th June 2003, 13:44
who would i accuse of giving bad strikes when i was strickenI don't see any strikes in your record, but this line of questioning makes me wonder whether you plan to get any strikes.

Just a day ago I explained why regular members don't get to see who striked them: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55896

And if you have any doubts about the appeal process, I suggest you talk to int21h. I've even unsuspended people when good arguments were presented.

One more thing: If you have the feeling "a moderator will get away with anything" then this is only true if you let him/her. The situation is pretty similar to this real life example: Imagine you walking down the street with a baseball bat in your backpack. You're on your way to baseball practice. A cop stops you and takes your bat away, claiming that you were going to damage other people's property with it. Now you have two choices: You can either walk away doing nothing (probably secretly thinking that all cops are a**holes), or you can file a complaint. If you go for the 2nd choice, parading in front of the courthouse with a sign saying "cops are thieves" is not the proper form to lodge a complaint, neither will you be successfull if you just go there and demand that a judge treats your case. In both cases, the court clerk will turn you away before you even get to see the judge. However, if you fill out the proper papers and behave yourself along the way (even though you may be very pissed), you'll eventually get your fair hearing.
Do you see any analogy with what could happen on this board? If you parade in front of the courthouse (publicly complain, probably even insult a moderator), it won't get you anywhere. You might even be removed from court by force (suspension, banning). Bottom line, if you file the proper papers you'll get your fair hearning and nobody is getting away with anything. If you don't, you have given up your chance on your own will and there's nobody to be blamed for that but you!

ammer
20th June 2003, 21:48
my ever tired pea cerebrum needs healthy rest so i'll continue my rants and refutes later. :confused:

bilu
20th June 2003, 22:41
I hope not. Bring constructive proposals that follow the spirit of this forum instead.


Bilu