Windows Media 9 Authentication?

[Arcane]

I've just today bought the new Teminator2 JD Extreme edition, come to learn it has a Media 9 high definition 5.1 which is stunning in it's AV quality by the way. Had to finally install InterActual Player for the first time to play it, as it gets a license from the web :(

I bought the disk, but I like playing with Windows Media, wondering if there is some way to cr*ck the authentication so I can open these WMV files in Vegas or Encoder 9 to shrink them down and edit. Right now neither will open them, due to rights managment.

For Terminator fans, wondering if the Extreme Edition is worth it, I'm not a particularly big fan and passed on T2 for a long time but this new release brings the vibrance and sound to a new level, as if it was filmed yesterday, what I saw on TV 3 days ago looked 20 years old by compairison. Lot of extras for PC owners as well, import and morph images, design and test machines, ect..

If anyone has ideals to open these in my editors be much appriciated.

[mf]

You could try using Graphedit and connecting the WMV decoder to a Huffy encoder and a file writer, but M$ might be smarter than to allow that. Also, you would get HUGE files :D.

[ultimatebilly]

You could try using Graphedit and connecting the WMV decoder to a Huffy encoder and a file writer, but M$ might be smarter than to allow that. Also, you would get HUGE files

Let's hope they aren't, then we can also use directshowsource() in avisynth :D

[OvERaCiD23]

Let's hope they aren't, then we can also use directshowsource() in avisynth

Doesn't work, bastards! But the MPEG2 version alone is of outstanding quality; it's hard to believe they made it look this good after 12 years (and it's even harder to believe that movie is from 12 years ago!).

[Arcane]

I'm no hacker, but it sure seems that there must be a simple solution, that protection must call on some type of function or control to enforce itself. Wonder if an older media player/OS would still enforce the rights management. Being the quality it is the 6800+ bit rate is only about 6GB, would certainly re-encode to a 4.7 DVD with little loss, even a 700MB WMV file should still be decent for PC viewing. I'll have to mess around with it.

OverAcid23 have you played with the Morphing tool yet? Kinda cool for an extra. I agree on the 12 year thing, after just seeing it on TV I still felt like I was watching for the first time. Audio (at least on 5.1) was the bigest improvment. I'll let you know if I come up with anything.

[JReiginsei]

What are the system requirements to play Terminator II WMV9? If it is such a high resolution it would probably not work on a Thunderbird 1.2Ghz right?

[mingcl]

Originally posted by JReiginsei
What are the system requirements to play Terminator II WMV9? If it is such a high resolution it would probably not work on a Thunderbird 1.2Ghz right?

The recommended CPU requirement on the DVD cover is 3Ghz. However, many tests have been done and showed that it can play back smoothly on P4 2.4Ghz, Athlon 2100+ MP, and Centrino 1.6GHz laptop.

Thanks,

Ming
Microsoft

[Arcane]

I'm running a 2500+ Barton Core, Radeon 9800 Pro, 1G 2700 Cas 2, but my feelings are that it would run fine on much less, I ran from DVDRom, but I suspect it would play from a fast HD, Athlon XP 1700, w/512 64MB ATi 7500 or higher just as well, without more then a few stutters in playback. I have yet to run the DVD file, but I think they exagerated the requirements for playback of the WMV file, maybe to be safe (first for the industry). ANYone doing it with less please sound off. :) My playback was totaly acceptable. Max swap file usage was 195MB, RAM was barely used, CPU was about 90%

[OvERaCiD23]

Doesn't play on a P3 900mhz 256MB RAM, off a 7200RPM FireWire drive (stutters alot, not worhtwhile); but it plays fine on a P4 1.7ghz 512MB RAM.

I would guess they put such high requirements to ensure that it will play correctly; you have to figure the average person isn't going to want to have to mess around with settings just to play the video, and they don't want to close their 90 items running in the system tray either, thus the high requirements to ensure they can do it all. :eek:

[MvB]

I'm runnig into real problems trying to play the wmv version.
Added, as suggested, an american proxy server to internet explorer, but now they seem to have a recognition for that. Instead of telling me i'm in the wrong country they say: 'It appears you are using an anonymous proxy server. Since we are unable to ascertain your location, we cannot issue a license at this time'

What can I do for i bought this dvd only because of the wmv version?

Maybe somebody knows a workaround?

Thanks
MvB

[ultimatebilly]

Do you have to get a licence for viewing the disk you bought??
Are they crazy? :angry:

Setting your region and your language to US-English probably helps not?! Works for games sometimes, if you don't want the enemies to be tiny robots who start to weep if you shoot on them...
Are they verifying your IP-adress or what?
How about dialing in over an american call-by-call provider? Will need a modem for that, and it's not gonna be that cheap, but you don't have to be online for long, don't you?
Or are they performing a trace for you? In this case it may get complicated...

I think it's time for me to install Linux again which was uninstalled due to harddisk-space shortage...
Will start to clean up as soon as possible... :devil:

[MvB]

Do you have to get a licence for viewing the disk you bought??

Are they verifying your IP-adress or what?

Yes, to play the wmv version of T2 you need a license (that means an internet connection and a lot of luck)

Yes, they are verifying my IP-adress. I've come to this conclusion. Access to the license is granted only to american and canadian IP-adresses. That's why i tried an american proxy server (it was reported that should work). But with me it's not working, just getting this message telling me, that i'm using a proxy and that's why they can't give me the license.

And if I ever get one, i have to renew it every 5th day!

I'm just getting into a really baaaaad mood about this. :angry: :devil:

If somebody knows how to make this version viewable for me (i already read the threat at avsforums, doesn't work for me) i would be very glad.

Thanks

[MvB]

PS: does anybody know an american call-by-call provider reachable from Germany?

[ultimatebilly]

Here are some proxy-server addresses, maybe they help some people...

http://www.publicproxyservers.com/page1.html

Maybe all people who are able to get the license from other countrys than the US and Canada should post either the proxy they used or the ISP they have, be it a local or a foreign ISP, so people who aren't able to play can find a workaround...
This way we create a nice list for microsoft to include in their bann-lists, but there is the hope that they won't care, because Artisan should be satisfied now, when the majority of people who spend a lot of money to obtain and import the disk are not able to view it.
And all we want to do is to obtain a f*cking license btw...

Oh, and you have to use the Interactual Player to obtain the license, once you have it, you can use WiMP...

PS.: I have read that you can also use WMP9, if it says that there is no DVD in the drive you have to eject and remount it...

[MvB]

You don't need to use IA to obtain the license. I did it with wmp9 alone.

1) Connect to the internet
2) Insert the 2nd dvd
3) Tell Media Player to use the proxy preferences of internetexplorer
4) start 'dvdrun.exe' in main directory of dvd (nothing will happen, you won't see anything)
5) Open wmp9 and open T2_Part1.wmv
6) WMP9 should acquire the license now (if the proxy is working correctly)

The biggest problem is always to find a suitable proxyserver that works.

Cu
MvB

[Dreamcazman]

I'm from Australia and have just imported the Extreme DVD in the hopes to watch T2 in 1080p and then to find this crap license thing on the disc severly pissed me off. Thats the only reason I bought it (already have Ultimate Ed)

I tried a few of them proxies, but it kept saying that I'm using an anonymous proxy??

If someone can get this working, I would be extremely grateful. Even if it can be hacked - I don't care :D

[sonicbox]

Using a U.S. proxy can work, but some proxies are blacklisted on the authentication host now. Worst case, have a friend run a proxy for you. Such is life, as Artisan only has the rights for North America and are required enforce it as best they can. By the way, it plays fine on our lowly Athlon 2200+ :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

For all us people who do not live in the US or Canada, when you finally get the disc to run (for 5 days) there's another disappointing thing you should know...........

The movie has not actually been encoded to 1920w x 1080h pixels. It's 1440w x 816h pixels!

It still looks amazingly good though (as does the new 720w x 480h NTSC DVD print).

Roll on HD!

[TCM]

hi,

welcome to the future :)

seriously, this drm stuff should be boycotted in the first place. i know it might be hard to resist for a die hard fan but i for myself won't buy such crap after reading this thread. it sounds like a bad joke.

please don't let that junk be stuffed down your throat. i don't know why usual market rules don't apply once m$ tries to get one of their half-assed file formats into place. and please don't give me that "ooh, but it looks so much better". yes it might, it's the bait. it kind of closes your eyes towards the tail of complications that usually comes with anything from redmond.

i seriously hope these restrictions can't be circumvented. and i seriously hope they enforce even stricter rules. sometimes people need to be treated _really_ bad (beyond uuh-ooh-eye-candy) to wake up.

one might think needing a license to watch your bought dvd is bad enough. or this ip verification stuff. how f..ed up does it have to get? why can these tortures enter the market in the first place since noone seems to demand them?

wake up ffs. speak with your wallet and stop to bend over to get some slightly-better-than-dvd (i haven't seen the wmv version and i don't want to) version of an admittedly awesome movie.

TCM

ps: i'm dead tired and this thread gave me the rest of a not-too-good day. i had to get this off :)