New Region protection on DVD?

[Xitrum]

I recently got an original DVD "The Transporter" Region 1 and it got some sort of weird protection. After I used DVD Decrypter to rip it to the hard disk, then used IFOEdit to search for RCE protection. IFO said that there are no RCE protection on any of the VTS sets.
However, when I burned that out onto a DVD and try to play on my DVD player, it said that this movie is not playable on my region (Which is region 4).
Does anybody seen this problems before?

By the way the movie fit on a 4.3Gig Disk

[ultimatebilly]

As far as I know, RCE is a method that checks if your DVD-player was patched...
The "disk" looks if your player is set to region 1, otherwise it won't play, even if your player is region-free...
This is used rather seldom, because it can give problems with Region 1 players that doesn't properly support these disks...
I don't know how to remove or change this protection, but if you're able to set your player to region 1, then you should be able to play the disk...

Maybe this can help?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35941&highlight=remove+rce

Not just searching for RCE protection, but removing it, regardless of Ifoedit saying there is none?

[Doom9]

looks like you have to do it the hard way: http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/Derrow/rce.html

BTW.. never ever buy a standalone that you can't make regionfree.. don't give them money for crippled hardware or they will just keep harassing us with more consumer unfriendly technologies. If I see a standalone that I don't know I can make regionfree, the maker would never make any business with me. I currently own 4 standalones (or, co-own), all of them either region free out of the box or region free via a simple remote hack.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

If you ripped with my program, it already makes it region free.
You cant region free it twice.

Sounds like you didnt configure the 'RCE Protection Region' setting correctly before ripping.

[Xitrum]

Lightning UK,
I did used your program to rip it, and I did configured the 'RCE Protection Region' setting correctly. I used to do this in the past with some other movie without any problems, that's why my asked in the title of my thread that whether this is a new region protection.

Anyhow, if I did not configured DVD Decrypter to remove RCE then when I use IFOEdit to remove it, it should find it and remove it, right?
But IFOEdit said that there is no RCE protection on every VTSs that I asked it to check.

If I did configured DVD Decrypter correctly, which I'm pretty sure I did, and IFOEdit could not find it either, then would this be a new region protection in DVD?

[DnGermany]

Did you save the ifo files after checking them, so that the disk is set for all regions. I also made a backup of the same disk R1 and had no problems.

[Xitrum]

Yes, I did save the IFO files after make it region free.

What region are you in? if you in region 1 and backup the R1 disk, then you won't have the problem. I'm in region 4 that's why I have the problem.

@Doom9
I printed the document, but I could not find the similars command in this disk.

Since then, I already have another copy which is R4, but I still want to find out how to crack this thing. If anybody has any ideas please put in this thread please.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Once RCE has been patched (be it correctly or incorrectly), its impossible to detect it was ever there.

If the movie was intended for viewing in Region 4 - ie that is whats stamped on the case / box, then that is what you must configure the 'RCE Protection Region' to.

[Xitrum]

Once RCE has been patched (be it correctly or incorrectly), its impossible to detect it was ever there.
I was not aware of this, maybe I stuffed it up:( , but all I did was DVD Decrypted, into the HD then used Nero to burned it out, as the movie fitted on a 4.3G as is.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Well the default for the RCE option is '1' so if you didnt configure it straight off, it would have patched it to 1 and not 4 as you needed it to be. That would explain the problem.

[raze]

I too have a similar problem.

I have used DVD Decryptor with the same settings for about 50 Region 1 DVD's with no problems at all. If the DVD is > 4.36GB then i trim down to 4.3GB with DVD2one.

I have just tried it with Region 1 Jimmy Neutron Confusion Fusion DVD using exactly the same settings.
When I play the final burnt DVD on PC or my region free standalone or the Video_ts folder from HD with WinDVD i get the same result - "This player is incompatible with the region marking of this disk".

I have checked all the ifo, bup files etc as usual and all are as normal region and rce free.

I am trying again ripping with smartripper to see if its any different.

[raze]

Well that was quick.
Smartripper ripped it to HD and i can play the resulting Video_TS folder in WinDVD with no probs at all.
I did try it with DVD Decryptor twice before this with no success.

Any ideas as to why DVD Decryptor can't process this DVD ?

Well its time to DVD2one this folder down

[jedidaz]

I have had similar 'protection' problems but the originals aren't even RCE. The only thing I can think of is version 3.1.6.0 has a bug. Anyone else with similar thoughts?

[Xitrum]

@raze
That's interesting, I'll try Smartripper tomorrow and see if that fixed the problem. The problem is I only got a copy which might have been stuff, but I'll give it a try anyway.

@jedidaz
If Smart Ripper fixed my problem than there is a likely chance that there might be a bugs with DVD Decrypter.

[raze]

It would seem that the latest Paramount DVD's have some anti DVD Decryptor protection maybe ?

I have tried 3 new Paramount DVD's with DVD Decryptor and all wouldn't play due to incompatible region.

All worked fine with smartripper.

[raze]

Nope it didnt work properly

managed to do the copies with smartripper but it kept the rce protection.

Tried patching all the files to rce free with dvd decryptor but again resulted in the incompatible region screen.

Got to be some new protection by paramount.

[Xitrum]

I too tried using smartripper on the original "The Transporter" R1 version, but it did not fixed the problem.

Yes, I think this is some new region protection scheme.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

If you're getting a 'disc not playable in this region' screen (or something similar), its RCE.
If you configure DVD Decrypter correctly, it will rip this disc without any problem.

If you really dont believe me, copy all of the IFO files off the original DVD using EXPLORER (Very important!) and email them to me. You can find the email address in the programs 'About' box.

[raze]

Tried again with decryptor on my other PC

seems to have work this time.

Will have to check all the settings on PC #1 now.

[comfysofa]

Hey lightning!!

I just thought id have a look through the forums to see if there was an answer to my problem - which looks to be the same as this........Ive also had this too - now when i install dvd decrypter (top piece of software and i take my hat off to you!!) it used to decrypt, as it does. I used to take it to an iso and then mount it using demon tools to check that it works...... and then since ive had the transporter this was the first one to come up with "disc not playable in this region".....and more often than not now i get the same message.....what setting in the decrypter to you set to remove the rce.....dont say the one marked rce removal checkbox cos that already is.....heh.

look forward to hearing from you

and again, lovely piece of software

regards

Comfy