A really easy way to synch Subtitles

[darkpikachu]

Hi from France :)

Here is a way to synch subtitles.In fact, I've tried some other ways proposed here but this one is far the MOST SIMPLE WAY!:

Synching the subtitles, by DarkPikachu

1)Rip your movie with DVDshrink or DVDOne, keep only the movie and the subtitles to go faster.

2)Use your favorite program to rip the subtitles you wanted from the movie created by DVDshrink (or DVD2One)

3)Your subtitles are synched.Import them in your favorite authoring program!

Pretty easy huh? :sly:

Tell me what you think.

[darkpikachu]

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[oddyseus]

Why a subtitle stream that is desynced should sync after u dvd2one it?

I kinda lost u :)

[darkpikachu]

The response is...I don't know!But the fact is this method works...Many people around me have tested this trick after I discover it and put it in the section Guide of a french forum(by chance), and foa all of them this method always works!
One of them said perhaps it works because there is no more change of layer (he supposed that the desynch is due to the change of layer...)

[oddyseus]

Basically this is just an extended version of my previous post.

I think that I misunderstood your original post. Reading the title and continuing casual reading your post's body, one would interpret it as a solution for synching unsynched subtitle stream. After a more careful read, I found nothing to substantiate such conclusion.

U r suggesting that one could strip the movie keeping only video/audio and subs with dvd2one or dvdshrink and the resulting files would have synched subs to rip them off. What makes u think that the subs were unsynched in the first place?

Lets consider the following example.

A movie has unsynched subs throughout its duration by n seconds. A simplified description of the job both of these programs r doing would be this. 'Decreasing the size of I-frames based on the motion vectors and reconstructing the gop'. I would think that each developer would go into great extent preventing any change in every other element of the movie, if he wanted to maintain the original behaviour. Given that, the offest of n seconds would pass from parent to child presice to the frame. Otherwise we should witness the opposite too. Synched subs becoming unsynched. Nothing of this nature has been reported afaik.

I really dont understand it and I am going to try this if I come across a movie with unsynced subs.

[darkpikachu]

"What makes u think that the subs were unsynched in the first place?"
Hum, because they are!!!I don't know how to explain it better lol.

Here is an Exemple:If you try to backup the movie "The Matrix" with the Maestro Method, and try to rip the subtitles with subrip, you will find that the subtitles are unsynched.When a character talks, the associated subtitles are late, and the more the movie play,the more the subtitles are late.

To synch these subtitles,
1)I keep my Maestro project but I delete these unsynched subtitles

2)I backup the movie with DVDshrink or DVD2One, keeping only the video and the subtitles

3)From this backup, I rip the subtitles with subrip.

4)This time these subtitles with be synched, so I can put them in my Maestro project.

This way you will ALWAYS have synched subtitles.Did you understand what i mean this time?

[oddyseus]

Does the movie u r talking about is ny any chance region 1?

[darkpikachu]

No, but somme people tried my trick on a region 1 DVD and it works perfectly.Let me know if you try...

[oddyseus]

as I said earlier I would try it.

Thanks for the tip. I ll try to find why, though.

[darkpikachu]

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[oddyseus]

I have it noted. But I have yet to find an unsynced sub to try it.

[nuked]

If you rip the Matrix with smartripper keeping the subs in the vobs,
use dvdtoavi with forced film(ivtc), then rip subs with supbrip.. they are perfectly in sync throughout the movie. I don't know anything about Maestro. I do know though of cases where this method produces subs that are out of sync in exactly the way you describe... further off later in the movie. Subrip has length and offset adjustments to fix it; I know, your point was an "easy" way. What causes this? It's not like subs are actually out of sync when played from the DVD. Is it something with the frame serving/ivtc'ing? I only know about divx in case there's a significant diference in the procedures for dvd authoring.