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beaumont
7th May 2003, 22:18
Is it just me or are are home computers limited to two categories:

1) the PC equivalent of a souped up Honda CRX or
2) the PC equivalent of a bloated, pseudo performance "luxury" car?

Like a race prepared Honda CRX, a geeked out gaming PC made at home by an enthusiast is probably loaded with the raciest components and performs pretty well, but let's face it -- it's a little homemade and it aint beautiful.

The "top of the line" factory desktops seem to be more like Cadillacs, or in the best case, a BMW 7-series -- maybe reasonably well built, with some emphasis on design, but in the end, NOT state of the art performance, still too much plastic, and too much emphasis on gee whiz, BS features designed mainly to impress the affluent masses, rather than really perform for a hard core geek.

So can anyone please help me buy or design the PC equivalent of a Porsche GT-2?

I don't need silly features, user friendly pictures, RAM
draining icons lurking at the bottom of my desktop, a billion useless bundled programs, cutesy prompts or internet access within 35 seconds
out of the box.

I just want a beautifully designed, bulletproof quality, state of the art, bad ass PC with a lean mean stable operating system, the best sound and video, a gorgeous monitor, a sexy, well-made case and enough memory to store a library of music and movies and/or design a plan to take over the world.

Can anyone help me spend my money, please? Should I go UNIX or something? Industrial/commercial servers rather than PC?

Calling all car and computer enthusiasts: your opinion, please.

Thank you and best wishes.

PS

And happy to hire someone to build this.

brashquido
8th May 2003, 03:26
A challenge :) !

There are several case/PSU manufacturers who provide some very visually pleasing products which would take care of things externally. But as with all performance machines, it's what's under the hood that counts! What are you planning to use this machine for, also what budget are we looking at?

kaitsuburi
8th May 2003, 04:12
I was going to suggest Alienware (http://www.alienware.com), but perhaps you are looking for more and better :D :D

To really get a computer machine with the style, power and quality of a Porsche, you might be better off carefully selecting the parts and putting it together yourself. If you are prepared to pay, a dual CPU, SCSI-HDD snarling beast in a quiet-fan, super-slick looking case with 2-4 Eizo LCDs might be what you're looking for.

Here's some links:

Eizo LCD Displays (http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/contents.html)
Dign International (http://dignint.com/)[partly in Korean]
Coolermaster (http://www.coolermaster.com)
PC Silent (http://www.pcsilent.com/)

-kaitsuburi

beaumont
8th May 2003, 15:33
Brashqido

Thank you. I dont really have a budget but would prefer to keep it under $5K. Is there something amazing for $10K?

Regarding applications, my normal computing needs are pretty simple: mainly Word and Internet.

My personal interests include music and movies, however so I would like the machine to be as sophisticated as possible for entertainment. I don't really play games, but fail do understand why a super high end machine couldnt do everything.

Can anyone provide links for the high end case manufacturers? As Kaitsuburi (thanks for the links!) said, "super slick".

Anything super slick, really. Still searching for the GT-2 PC!

kaitsuburi
8th May 2003, 16:48
One more case manufacturer link:

http://www.soldam.com/index.html

SOLDAM is a very popular high-end pc-case maker here in Japan. Expensive, but great design and quality. It looks from their English site that you might order from outside Japan.

Coolermaster is of course a wholehearted recommendation (link above). Just have a look at this (http://www.coolermaster.com/ad/wavesite.html) new model. Is that slick or what :cool:

$5K is an extremely high budget for a PC! But since you don't have need for extreme overclocking/maniac gaming it seems, you might be better off not spending all that money on top-of-the-line processor/grafix card (which as new tech are extremely overpriced) but get say something that was top-of-the-line 3-4 months ago.

Definitely get a dual CPU system (they are so cool - you will love the multitasking), Antec (http://www.antec-inc.com/) power supply, hi-end audio card (http://productsen.terratec.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=index&catid=1&topic=&allstories=1&menu=1) etc.

Good luck and let us know when you decide!

-kaitsuburi

mtc
9th May 2003, 02:34
This site has some details/links for some semi-professional soundcards on the market.

http://soundcards.electronicmusicworld.com/

and here:

http://www.soundsonics.net/soundcards.html

brashquido
9th May 2003, 04:12
beaumont, I presume that's $5000 U.S?


These prices from www.newegg.com

CASE: Lian-Li PC-71 (http://www.lian-li.com/product.php?action=viewPD&prdid=375) = $184.00
POWER SUPPLY: Antec 550W Power Supply (http://www.antec-inc.com/pro_details_powerSupply.php?ProdID=20550) = $118.99
MOTHERBOARD: Supermicro Motherboard for Dual Intel Xeon Processors (http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/E7505/X5DA8.htm) = $ $599.00
CPUS: INTEL Pentium 4 XEON 3.06GHz 512K 533 MHz (http://www.intel.com/products/server/processors/server/xeon/index.htm?iid=ipp_srvr_proc+xeonwrkstn&) = $729 X 2 = $1458
RAM: 512MB 64MX64 PC-3200LLPT CORSAIR MEMORY XMSWith Platinum - Silver Heat Spreader (http://www.corsairmicro.com/xms/xms_modules.html) = $142 x 2 = $284
HARD DRIVES: FUJITSU SCSI HARD DRIVE 73.5 GB 15,000RPM (http://www.fcpa.com/products/hard-drives/mas-15k-rpm/) = $629.00 x 4 = $2516
VIDEO CARD: ATI FIRE GL X1 128MB DDR 8X AGP (http://www.ati.com/products/workstation/fireglx1/specs.html) = $663
SCSI RAID CARD: Adaptec SCSI RAID 2010S (http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/markeditorial.html?sess=no&prodkey=zcr_compatibility_list&cat=%2fProducts%2fASR-2010S&type=Product&productid=ASR-2010S) Can't find Price, but assume about $500
VIDEO EDITING: Canopus DVStorm2 with Storm Bay (http://www.canopus.com/US/products/dvstorm_2/pm_dvstorm_2.asp) = $862
DVD-R/RW: PIONEER DVR-A05 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/Pioneer/CDA/HomeProducts/HomeProductDetails/0,1422,92282,00.html) = $265.00



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