Only 1st CD's subtitle out of sync with audio

[aperture]

This is my first post. I have P4 2.4GHz, WinXP, 640MB. I was trying to convert Saving Private Ryan Special Limited Edition, NTSC/Widescreen Anamorphic 1.85:1/Region 1. I have Apex AD-1500 at home, and it uses CVD subtitle. I have used DVD2SVCD for about 2 months now, and everything has been great. Thanks for a great product. However, on some movies, the subtitle will be about 0.5 to 1 second slower than the audio. And the delay will always happen on the 1st CD. It doesn't happen with every movie, but when it does, it's always the 1st CD. Other movies this has happened are The Others, Spirited Away, and K-19: the Widowmaker. For Private Ryan, I used 4 700MB CD's. Disc 2 to 4 are fine concerning subtitles. Just the first one has the delay. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong. Thanks so much. Log file is attached.

WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
Key found: E26F73ECA9
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- 4/25/2003 1:02:30 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.1 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 4/25/2003 1:02:33 AM
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
1 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 4/25/2003 1:03:05 AM
- Free on drive E: 22312.91 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob

Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 7846

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- 4/25/2003 1:17:57 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[E:\movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[E:\movie\VTS_01_1.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_2.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_3.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_4.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_5.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_6.vob,E:\movie\VTS_01_7.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 4/25/2003 1:21:55 AM
- Free on drive E: 15500.45 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 2502

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 4/25/2003 1:28:29 AM
- Free on drive E: 15478.41 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\movie\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 4/25/2003 1:33:17 AM
- Free on drive E: 14935.43 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: E:\movie\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "E:\movie\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "E:\movie\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "E:\movie\Audio\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of E:\movie\Audio\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 4/25/2003 1:53:21 AM
- Free on drive E: 14703.05 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 4/25/2003 1:53:34 AM
- Free on drive E: 14702.26 mb
- Video Encoding using TMPGEnc
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- Encoding E:\movie\Video\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "E:\movie\Video\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

- Encoding E:\movie\Video\AviSynth_Script_file.avs
StreamSectors: 3327382352
AudioSectors: 247578044
VideoPAPO: 47707812
ScanOffsetBytes: 219389
SeqAligningBytes: 13943415
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 16
SubtitleSectors: 9244872
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 3008688803.40
Seconds: 10178.08
CalcMPEGStream: 3008688803.40
Frames: 243766
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 4
Cut point 792.00
Executing TMPGEnc. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc.exe" "E:\movie\Video\TMPGEnc_Project_file.tpr" /Encode /Close
Video Encoding finished.

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- 4/25/2003 9:40:59 AM
- Free on drive E: 12001.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/25/2003 9:41:03 AM
- Free on drive E: 12001.57 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\Video\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 4/25/2003 9:41:10 AM
- Free on drive E: 12001.54 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 4/25/2003 9:41:14 AM
- Free on drive E: 12001.54 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 792 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2638 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2640
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 792 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2806 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5446
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 792 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2573 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 8019
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 792 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 4/25/2003 10:15:12 AM
- Free on drive E: 9007.11 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2640.144 seconds E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2808.648 seconds E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2575.056 seconds E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing: E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File03.mpg
2147.688 seconds E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File03.mpg
Analyzing finished.

Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2640
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2808
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2575
Length of E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File03.mpg
2147
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- 4/25/2003 10:17:13 AM
- Free on drive E: 9005.23 mb
- Multiplexing CVD Subtitles
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Muxing English subtitles, CD 1
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg" -l "E:\movie\Subs\SubLog1.txt" -s0 -C "E:\movie\Subs\en1-1.sub" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed00.mpg"
Muxing English subtitles, CD 2
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg" -l "E:\movie\Subs\SubLog2.txt" -s0 -C "E:\movie\Subs\en1-2.sub" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed01.mpg"
Muxing English subtitles, CD 3
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg" -l "E:\movie\Subs\SubLog3.txt" -s0 -C "E:\movie\Subs\en1-3.sub" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed02.mpg"
Muxing English subtitles, CD 4
Executing SubMux. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\WinSubMux\WinSubMux.exe" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File03.mpg" -l "E:\movie\Subs\SubLog4.txt" -s0 -C "E:\movie\Subs\en1-4.sub" "E:\movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File-subbed03.mpg"
Muxing subtitles finished
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- 4/25/2003 10:23:42 AM
- Free on drive E: 5999.62 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 6

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 4/25/2003 10:26:21 AM
- Free on drive E: 5194.16 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 7

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~2.XML"
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- 4/25/2003 10:29:00 AM
- Free on drive E: 4386.74 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 5

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~3.XML"
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- 4/25/2003 10:31:49 AM
- Free on drive E: 3580.81 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 5

CD image #4: CD_Image_File_CD4.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD4.cue" --bin-file="E:\movie\CD_Image_File_CD4.bin" "E:\movie\VCDXBU~4.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 4/25/2003 10:33:56 AM
- Free on drive E: 2951.65 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[winxi]

Hello!
Congratulation, very goord first post!
Since it only happens with the first CD, it have to be a player issue and has nothing to do with dvd2svcd. Uncheck title, changecd and lastcd - pic, and i bet it will work.

greets, winxi

[aperture]

Thanks, winxi! I currently have title and lastcd pics turned off already. I will test it with changecd pic off the next time it happens. Thanks for the suggestion!

[davidh44]

I have the same issue with most DVDs as well (the subtitle being 1/2-1 second late only on the first CD). Did turning off the title, changecd, and lastcd pics fix the problem for you? It didn't make a difference for me. I'll have to find another DVD player to try out the SVCDs that exhibit the subtitle delay issue on my Apex 500W.

[Amit]

@Aperture,
I have Apex 1500 with me. I always put Title Picture and no Change CD or Last CD Pciture. I never get into this problem. Hope this helps.

CHEERS
-Amit

[mnkyboy]

Ok, i have a problem. I am using DVD2SVCD to convert the AVI divx files to DVD compliant mpegs so i can author them as dvd. I encoded the files using CCE (in DVD2SVCD), and the resulting file comes out to be 2 seconds smaller than the original DIVX file. The audio and video is fine, in sync, but when i view the subtitles with the converted file, the subtitles arent in sync.

Anyone have an idea why this happens? The converted file is PAL 25fps, like the original file.

Any comments/suggestions welcome. Thanks