An10Bill
24th April 2003, 10:16
I have this little problem I was hoping you people here could help me with.
In my DVD collection I have this old release of SE7EN which I think is a great movie - Problem is that this old release is a "flipper" and I hate to do that disc-flip in the middle of the movie....
So I decided to RIP the movie, make it a non-flip, and then place it on a DVD+R
SIDE A holds all the normal files of a DVD, and the mail movie is contained in a VTS_01_x.vob set, where X is 1,2,3 and 4.
Side B hold all the same files, whith the same filenames VTS_01_x.vob (1-4) but ofcourse with different filesizes.
With IFO-Edit i checked the VST_01_0.IFO file and could see that the the PGC1 of Side A was 1h 01min, and the PGC1 of Side B was 1h 05min.
Since I was not aiming for a complete rip with menues and everything, I decided to take the EASY way.
I Decrypted all the files of both sides to two different directories, then i renamed the VOB-files of side 'B' to be sequential followers to the files from side 'A', in other words i renamed the VTS_01_1.VOB of side 'B' tol VTS_01_5.VOB and so on... Then I copied all files into one directory (just VOB-files - no Video_ts files, ifo-files etc.)
So then I had a directory containing VTS_01_x.VOB (1-8) and I used IFOEDIT to create NEW IFO's from this set. It all seemed to work fine (The new IFO contained a PGC of 2h 6min, audio etc), until i started to play my DISC-IMAGE with PowerDVD..... The playback was reversed. The movie started to play back side 'B', and then after the end-credits the first half of the movie started to play... DRATS!
A quick look in the original IFO-files from the DVD revealed what I think to be the problem:
SIDE 'A' uses VOB-ID 2, while SIDE 'B' uses VOB-ID 1...... Obviously IFOEDIT uses the VOB-ID to create new IFO's, and therefore the playback starts with side B, and ends with side A.
So the way I see it, a solution could be to somehow change the SIDE 'B' vobfiles, into using VOB-ID 3 instead before creating IFO's with IFO-Edit, but if this will work i dont now..... I don't know of any utilities to do this either....
Another solution may be to edit the new IFO's afterwards so that the playback starts from the right place, but I think that will be more complicated....
Anyone here who could help me out, on how to make a WORKING copy of this movie (just movie) - or ofcourse with menus if it's not much extra work..... Either my way, or some other maybe easier way... (I don't think there are any one-click programs that supports flippers (they only support DVD-9's)
I know a solution could be done by DEMUXING everything from the original VOB-files (Both sides seperatly into seperate folders), and putting it all back together with scenarist, but I feel that it's just too much work - there has to be an easier way.
BTW: Making a direct COPY of each side on seperate DVD+R's are out of the question..... Changing DVD's are just as akward as flipping disc.
Thanks in advance!
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An10Bill
In my DVD collection I have this old release of SE7EN which I think is a great movie - Problem is that this old release is a "flipper" and I hate to do that disc-flip in the middle of the movie....
So I decided to RIP the movie, make it a non-flip, and then place it on a DVD+R
SIDE A holds all the normal files of a DVD, and the mail movie is contained in a VTS_01_x.vob set, where X is 1,2,3 and 4.
Side B hold all the same files, whith the same filenames VTS_01_x.vob (1-4) but ofcourse with different filesizes.
With IFO-Edit i checked the VST_01_0.IFO file and could see that the the PGC1 of Side A was 1h 01min, and the PGC1 of Side B was 1h 05min.
Since I was not aiming for a complete rip with menues and everything, I decided to take the EASY way.
I Decrypted all the files of both sides to two different directories, then i renamed the VOB-files of side 'B' to be sequential followers to the files from side 'A', in other words i renamed the VTS_01_1.VOB of side 'B' tol VTS_01_5.VOB and so on... Then I copied all files into one directory (just VOB-files - no Video_ts files, ifo-files etc.)
So then I had a directory containing VTS_01_x.VOB (1-8) and I used IFOEDIT to create NEW IFO's from this set. It all seemed to work fine (The new IFO contained a PGC of 2h 6min, audio etc), until i started to play my DISC-IMAGE with PowerDVD..... The playback was reversed. The movie started to play back side 'B', and then after the end-credits the first half of the movie started to play... DRATS!
A quick look in the original IFO-files from the DVD revealed what I think to be the problem:
SIDE 'A' uses VOB-ID 2, while SIDE 'B' uses VOB-ID 1...... Obviously IFOEDIT uses the VOB-ID to create new IFO's, and therefore the playback starts with side B, and ends with side A.
So the way I see it, a solution could be to somehow change the SIDE 'B' vobfiles, into using VOB-ID 3 instead before creating IFO's with IFO-Edit, but if this will work i dont now..... I don't know of any utilities to do this either....
Another solution may be to edit the new IFO's afterwards so that the playback starts from the right place, but I think that will be more complicated....
Anyone here who could help me out, on how to make a WORKING copy of this movie (just movie) - or ofcourse with menus if it's not much extra work..... Either my way, or some other maybe easier way... (I don't think there are any one-click programs that supports flippers (they only support DVD-9's)
I know a solution could be done by DEMUXING everything from the original VOB-files (Both sides seperatly into seperate folders), and putting it all back together with scenarist, but I feel that it's just too much work - there has to be an easier way.
BTW: Making a direct COPY of each side on seperate DVD+R's are out of the question..... Changing DVD's are just as akward as flipping disc.
Thanks in advance!
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An10Bill