GordianKnot 0.28 Final is out - see thread in the main forum

[len0x]

I beleive this thread can be unlocked now...

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changes in Final:

- XviD credits & IVTC bug fixed
- misc cosmetics


changes in RC:

- fixed CBR MP3 parameters command line
- credits settings now correctly picked up (divx5)
- updated info tab
- misc cosmetics

changes in beta 6:

- added CBR MP3 encoding support in audio options
- fixed probably a lot of bugs on the encoder window - settings etc...(and divx3 settings are back there)
- vdenc.log can be loaded from any location
- misc cosmetics

changes in beta 5:

- when using XviD - avi frame overhead is unchecked to avoid undersize
- auto split works with "improper vbr header" files
- removed checks for nandub, azid, lame when processing audio
(azid.exe, lame.exe, normalize.exe can now be removed from istallers)
- added check for besweet instead
- muxing is now possible with none of the audio tools installed
- cbr mp3 should be muxed properly now (when selecting already made mp3)

changes in beta 4:

- split file function now uses nandub compatibilty mode of vdubmod
- stats file for second pass of xvid can now be loaded
- very annoying bug when settings for first/second/credits were mixed up is fixed (please recreate your default settings)

changes in beta 3:

- three tabs are hidden now by default (nandub, stats, file editor)
the can be enabled on options tab
- defaults codec settings are loaded on encoder tab (first time you
hit codec settings for a project, second time saved settings
will be loaded)
- xvid defaults removed: luma + vhq 1

changes in beta 2:

- fixed autosplit again

changes in public beta:

- CD size is editable now
- some internal checks for mpeg2dec.dll and alternative version...
- info&help tab updated a bit (will be more in the final version)
- changed default noise filters (as well as lots of options included
in the avs file)

changes in alpha 14:

- improved & fixed auto splitting
- misc cosmetic changes

changes in alpha 13:

- vobsub can be launched again
- autosplit doen't split CD if the size is less then CDsize+2Mb
- autosplit settings is now persistent across several runs
- small cosmetics
- codec settings are now being picked up if you press config
button several times (previosly deafult were loaded every
time)
- XviD subs are now proper end subs, no beginning subs

changes in alpha 12:

- SaveAvs window remembers it's state across one run of GK
- Credits is enabled/disabled correctly on the same form
- Misc cosmetics
- Introduced automatic splitting feature! (test it please)
(this setting under CD buttons is not persistent yet, just for
testing) File is splitted according to CDs selected...

changes in alpha 11:

- muxing of second audio fixed
- button for loading stats for xvid is visible now :)
- make stats loader works for xvid & out /log file of VDubMod

changes in alpha 10:

- full support of XviD (including credits)
- defaults for XviD changed to Luma + chroma + Precision 6 +
vhq1
- cropping relaxed for width (mod 2 now)
- auto-detection of VBR/CBR mp3 on muxing...
- fixed decomb.dll always loading
- GK trying to find use virtualdubmod if just virtualdub was
used before

changes in alpha 9:

- first XVID support (don't garantee it works though)
but no credits option for XVID yet! and no recalculations after
audio processing as well...
- added TomsMoComp as deinterlace option
- changed IVTC option to (guide=1)
- misc cosmetics

changes in alpha 8:

- make comp test work again (sorry about that)

changes in alpha 7:

- seperate first & Nth passes back (were disabled in alpha 6)
- added button "Half CD" as well as arrows ro adjust size in
Mb
- Log file parsing between passes changed
- credits settings error when trying to add a job fixed

changes in alpha 6:

- added VSfilter to make subs filter work in YV12
- changed the way vdubmod started (no a job, but rather a script)
Hopefully this eliminates all the problems with naming of the
executable files
- added default settings for divx5 codec, which are being picked up
(apart from bitrate) if you don't specify them on encoder window
- misc cosmetic stuff (i.e. for instance disabled just first or
second passes for divx5)

changes in alpha 5:

- IVTC in avs fixed (decomb filter was not loaded)
- recalculated bitrate (after audio&credits processing) actually is being set now
- misc visual stuff ehnacements from requests
- I removed Vdubmod from the zip, please install vdubmod 1.4.13.2v2 on your own

changes in alpha 4:
- mod 4 crop generation in auto&smart crop (to support deinterlacing in YV12)
- correct bitrate is propagated to codec (no more undersized files)
- preview window setting are now restored upon appliaction restart
- misc stuff

changes in alpha 3:
- divx 3 support is back
- muxing of audio fixed as well

changes in alpha 2
- should fix log creating problems (from vdubmod) so comp check should always work. another fix is - multi pass with credits should works as well

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Here we go - as promised: first alpha of new version.

Go and get it at http://sourceforge.net/projects/gordianknot/

Change log:

- Cropping is done with multiply of 2 for all modes (manual, auto, smart) so that it is YV12 compatible. Manual cropping via editboxes is therefor disabled (use arrows).

- AVS window is rearranged slightly to include more filter options

- Added Lanczos to resize filters (and it is default filter for all cases apart from credits where bilinear is default)

- added Bob, FieldDeinterlace(blend=false) to deintrelace filters.

- TemporalSmoother changed to TemporalSoftener (noise filters). Settings recommended by sh0dan.

- Full support DivX 5.03/4 (including Nth pass) (Codec settings for first, Nth and credits is fully configurable now). Encode button is enabled now only after all three (or at least two) settings are set

- Compressibility test for divx5 uses /log option from VDubMod (and therefor vdubmod is required, but that is not checked in application itself yet). Also codec settings are configurable just for the test.

- Correct Settings for VDub path is picked up properly. (VDubMod is used for muxing audio as well from now on)

- Save and Save&Encode buttons in both SaveAVS and Edit windows
proposed names for Frameserver script and for Credits Framserver script (Movie.avs and Movie_Credits.avs).

- Tittles for the Edit script window, adapted to the frameserver that it is edited (titles: Avisynth Frameserver, Avisynth Credits Frameserver and Avisynth comp.test Frameserver).


Update instructions:

1) Install AVISynth 2.5
2) Install VDubMod 1.4.13.2v2 or higher!!!
3) Unpack zip into previous installation dir
4) make sure that option "use alternative mpeg2dec.dll" is set to mpeg2dec3.dll
(main form - settings tab)
5) Make sure path to Virtual Dub is set to VirtualDubMod
(this option is on the Encoder from, settings tab)

I suppose it should work even with old AVS 2.0x, but then you don't have to unpack filters (which I included in zip file - they are avs 2.5 compatible only)

Enjoy.

Update:
I've uploaded sources into module called "gknot". Contact me if you want to be developer at SF.

[hakko504]

Looks nice. Another program added to my 'to test' list...

[harel]

i try the gknot 0.28 alpha 3
i done allmost everything you say:
"1) Install AVISynth 2.5
2) Unpack zip into previous installation dir
3) make sure that option "use alternative mpeg2dec.dll" is set to mpeg2dec3.dll
4) Make sure path to Virtual Dub is set to VirtualDubMod included in zip file "
My problem is with 4 i cant find where to change this path

thanks
harel

[bond]

->encoder->add job->encoder->virtualdub

perhaps it would be great if virtualdub can be changed into virtualdubmod and divx4 into divx5!

[DoC hEx]

Hi Guys,

I’ve been doing some testing on Gknot 0.28 alpha 3.

First off, just to be picky it says its Gknot 0.28 alpha 2 on the programs title bar even though it’s in a zip that’s called alpha 3. :p

While this is purely a preview problem with MS Media Player v6.4.09.1109 (I haven’t tested any of the new versions of MPlayer to see if the same error occurs, as currently I’m only running v6.4 on my PC). I’m going to included this even though it’s not necessarily a bug, so you guys can make of it what you like. I tried to preview both an NTSC and PAL rip with AVIsynth 2.50 & 2.51 and mpeg2dec3.dll, but I only got a crap picture when it previewed in MPlayer v6.4. Basically the video source was split into three sections, two at the top and one at the bottom. The two at the top were of the movie, but it was displayed in only three colours black, green and purple. While the third section, which is the bottom half of the frame, is like a scrambled cable channel. This seems to be a MPlayer v6.4 problem, as the AVS file works correctly both in VirtualDub 1.4.13 (build 14328) and VirtualDubMod.

Note: I have also tested these MPlayer v6.4 with AVIsynth 2.07 and the default mpeg2dec.dll and it previews perfectly.

I then tried to use the Separate Fields (fast) Field Operations. I had the H-modul set to 4, and the Width x Height as 560x296 in the Output Resolution frame. Then when I previewed it with AVIsynth 2.51 / mpeg2dec3.dll, it told me YV12 height must be multiple of 4, so did VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod. It was using the Width x Height from the Crop (before resize!) frame where it was 702x338. It looks like these two Width x Height values both need to be checked with the H-Modul value, or maybe some type of warning message if it’s not a proper multiple of 4.

[len0x]

Originally posted by DoC hEx
Hi Guys,

I then tried to use the Separate Fields (fast) Field Operations. I had the H-modul set to 4, and the Width x Height as 560x296 in the Output Resolution frame. Then when I previewed it with AVIsynth 2.51 / mpeg2dec3.dll, it told me YV12 height must be multiple of 4, so did VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod. It was using the Width x Height from the Crop (before resize!) frame where it was 702x338. It looks like these two Width x Height values both need to be checked with the H-Modul value, or maybe some type of warning message if it’s not a proper multiple of 4.

Ok, I've heard that before - can anybody else comment on whether we always need mod 4 sizes for deinterlacing ?
(I'm pretty sure that without deinterlacing evrything works fine for just mod 2...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by bond

perhaps it would be great if virtualdub can be changed into virtualdubmod and divx4 into divx5!

will do...

[Kyo]

@len0x

I want to help with the project(in specific the translate part)

In the spanish(I'm spanish-guy) forum there are some interesting ideas about future additions like:

1. XviD support
2. in the Audio A,B mask also the Ogg format
3. Include the XviD stats from Koepi (if Koepi don't see a problem, of course)
4. I make a visual "change" to let GK use XP theming <-- include this also.
5. place your comment here ;)

If you need more info mail me at: KyoForever @ Gmx dot Net

PD: Neuron2 has pointed that for deinterlacing/ivct'ing the mod must be 4 because .an avisynth internal bug <-- not true, the yv12 natural form :) (thanks hakko)

[hakko504]

Originally posted by len0x
Ok, I've heard that before - can anybody else comment on whether we always need mod 4 sizes for deinterlacing ?
(I'm pretty sure that without deinterlacing evrything works fine for just mod 2...) If you are using YV12 (A2.5x) you do need mod-4 for interlaced video. Read this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42708) and this. (http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=DataStorageInAviSynth)


@KYO

It's not a bug, it's just the way YV12 data is stored that sets the limitation.

[harel]

bond thanks for the answer

i just finish burning "THE GAME"
i done it with the new Gknot
i use 3 pass.
do you know if there is realy a different between 2 or 3 passes

i want to know why evrey pass it stops to worn me that: "a log file already exist do you want to overwrite"
how can i overcome this problem so i can leave my pc to do the job without tuching it.

[summerbreeze]

I have big problem after instal whole things guided by ypur instructions virtualdunmod hasn't started and i have that message:
"application failed to start because libjpeg.dll was not found".
What should i do?

[len0x]

Originally posted by harel
i want to know why evrey pass it stops to worn me that: "a log file already exist do you want to overwrite"
how can i overcome this problem so i can leave my pc to do the job without tuching it.

I'll do that automatically soon, but for the moment - all you have to do is make sure to tick "don't promp for errors" box on the first codec properties page
(actally it's more 5.0.3 problem - 5.0.4 have this enabled by default)

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
I have big problem after instal whole things guided by ypur instructions virtualdunmod hasn't started and i have that message:
"application failed to start because libjpeg.dll was not found".
What should i do?

I think you should get proper installation of VDubMod (1.4.13.2v2) some ppl have problems with the one I packed.

I will remove it soon from zip file anyway...

[Kyo]

@len0x

I suppose that you have packed also the lastest "vdubmod needed dlls", because the old ones don't work...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Kyo
@len0x

I suppose that you have packed also the lastest "vdubmod needed dlls", because the old ones don't work...

actually I packed this version:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/VirtualDubMod_1_4_13_2.zip

It includes all needed dll already...

[bond]

Originally posted by len0x
actually I packed this version:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Editing/VirtualDubMod_1_4_13_2.zipthis is not the last version of virtualdubmod!!!

have a look on the virtualdubmod page on sourceforge and download version 1_4_13_2v2 and the latest dlls (260303)!

perhaps doom9 can update his link too...

[summerbreeze]

Sorry for bothering you again but:
When i changed your version of VdubMod with last from sourceforge page + all addons everything seems good but when i start comp test nothin happened ad i got message: logfile not found. unable to get compressability value.
I have WinXP SP1 and DivX 5.03

[len0x]

Originally posted by bond
this is not the last version of virtualdubmod!!!


You're right, but it works for me perfectly though...

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
Sorry for bothering you again but:
When i changed your version of VdubMod with last from sourceforge page + all addons everything seems good but when i start comp test nothin happened ad i got message: logfile not found. unable to get compressability value.
I have WinXP SP1 and DivX 5.03

Do you have correct path for VdubMod set ?
(can you see actually application starting when you press comp test ?

p.s. click codec settings before you do comp test and see if anything fishy going on there (usually it's not compulsory to do that, but may be bug is there)

p.p.s to be on the safe side try alpha 4 which I released half an hour ago

[summerbreeze]

me again:
i use alpha 4
appliacation starts but ends immediately and i have tha same mesage as posted above.
codec properties look OK to me:
"-b1q 2.0 -psy 1 -key 250 -mv "E:\ET\VIDEO_TS\E.T._5_perc_D5_LanczosResize_704x368"

any ideas?

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
me again:
i use alpha 4
appliacation starts but ends immediately and i have tha same mesage as posted above.
codec properties look OK to me:
"-b1q 2.0 -psy 1 -key 250 -mv "E:\ET\VIDEO_TS\E.T._5_perc_D5_LanczosResize_704x368"

any ideas?

can you manually open lastCompCheck.avs in vdubmod right after comp test failed (file is in the GK dir) ? (and may be even try saving avi, so see that vdub actually can do that)

if yes, then I need GK not log file as well as VirtualDubMod.jobs file to have some more ideas :)

if not you can mail me AVS itself (I suspect some of the filters are not working probably)

[summerbreeze]

Finaly i got I! Problem was in avs file.
Thank you for help and keep up good work!

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
Finaly i got I! Problem was in avs file.


would you mind telling what was wrong with AVS file ?
(just want to know if its general GK problem or you manually
edited AVS file and messed it up or particular filter wasn't working...)

[summerbreeze]

AVS resizing was not compatable with AviSynth 2.5.
I suppose that's only my problem.

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
AVS resizing was not compatable with AviSynth 2.5.
I suppose that's only my problem.

hm... you mean you've used different filter for resizing that defaults ones ? (manually editing avs file ?)

[Morbo]

Ditto SBreeze......

Im using DVX 5.0.2 being the only diff.....

No Log File after it finishes...

Im still using AVIsynth 2.0.8 and trying lanco resize....



**update**
The VirtualdubMOD included does not even work here....(settings i assume)....Clean re-do of the Mod folder makes it work,but still no COMP TEST LOG.....

[Kyo]

@len0x

I think that the vcd/svcd stuff will output a video with less values for addborders and maintain the source aspect ratio.

Also will be useful to select the ripper because for some people dvddecripter just hang the PC (in especial DVD's placed in RAID connectors)

[Blankman]

The most difficult part of using GordianKnot .28 has nothing to do with GnrdianKnot. It's the darn VirtualdubMod packaging. After downloading every single reccommended file from soundforge and struggling through two revisions of the latest VirtualdubMod. It still doesn't work. And no remedy has been documented to date.

[ookzDVD]

With the latest alpha 4,
I even can't perform the comp. check, the "now" button is grayed :(

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
With the latest alpha 4,
I even can't perform the comp. check, the "now" button is grayed :(

it's because path to the nundub and vdub is not set... (or invalid)
(or encoder is running in the background, which is less likely :) )

[len0x]

Originally posted by Kyo
@len0x

I think that the vcd/svcd stuff will output a video with less values for addborders and maintain the source aspect ratio.


when selecting on save avs window ?
I actually haven't checked those options yet...

Originally posted by Kyo

Also will be useful to select the ripper because for some people dvddecripter just hang the PC (in especial DVD's placed in RAID connectors)

well, talk are to remove ripper/dvd2avi tab at all since we have r4r now... :)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

So, better I install the 0.27 first and then install the 0.28 over the 0.27. Ok. Thanks.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,

So, better I install the 0.27 first and then install the 0.28 over the 0.27. Ok. Thanks.

Oh my, another think probably unclear - 0.28 is an update to 0.27 for now.
(but I thought on the first page it says "Update instructions") :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Blankman
The most difficult part of using GordianKnot .28 has nothing to do with GnrdianKnot. It's the darn VirtualdubMod packaging. After downloading every single reccommended file from soundforge and struggling through two revisions of the latest VirtualdubMod. It still doesn't work. And no remedy has been documented to date.

It's difficult for me debugging the problem since I don't have one. And I'm not really experienced user of VDubMod. So can some one investigate what can be wrong and try to find version (put together correct version + dll) that works ?

That would be great!

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

yeppie, I think the latest VirtualDubMod 1.4.13.2_v2 is working well,
at least on my machine.

Just rename the VirtualDubMod directory to VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod.exe to VirtualDub.exe everything is working well :)

Thank you.

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,
Just rename the VirtualDubMod directory to VirtualDub and VirtualDubMod.exe to VirtualDub.exe everything is working well :)

Thank you.

well I actually spent some time fixing the problem of renaming, so there should be no renaming required if you specify the correct path on the last tab of the Encode form! Is that still not working ?

(I know that location of the path is not really convenient since Encode form comes after save avs form where you'd like to be able to do comp test... but this becomes sort of a FAQ :) )

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

Gotcha! I know your point :)
Since I never use GKnot for encoding, so I never click the "Save & Encode" :) I just click the "Save" button.

I know the Encoder Form which show after click "Save & Encode" button.
I think I can change the path from there. Thank you.

[len0x]

Does anybody know whether it looks for

"virtualdubmod.jobs"

or still for

"virtualdub.jobs"

or both ?

[maurus]

Originally posted by len0x
I think you should get proper installation of VDubMod (1.4.13.2v2) some ppl have problems with the one I packed.

I will remove it soon from zip file anyway...

Yes, that'is also my problem. I fixed it with the VirtuadubMod "v2" that I downloaded from Virtualdub SourceForge Project.

[maurus]

The buttons for directly call the codec configuration window, they seem to me well. Better than to request the same things of another form and soon to pass them to codec.

Actually, the dialogue of codec 5.03/4 properties is now very easy with the profiles and, in addition, this solution can be used for all the versions of the codecs in the future.

Perhaps the only thing would be to put some defaults...

Gordian Knot is for me a platform in order to unify and to make easier all the process from DVD rip to obtaining the final DivX. But, I think, it is not a tool for very newbies. For which, there are other utilities...

[Ruppl]

@ len0x

I´ve got another problem with the new 0.28 verion of Gknot. After I´ve done my settings, the button "Add job to encoding Queue" in the Encoder Control Panel is grey and unavailable.
Pathes through Nandub and VirtualDub are set....

Some other guys in the german doom forum got the same Problem!:(
My System WinXp SP1, AthlonXp

[len0x]

Originally posted by Ruppl
@ len0x

I´ve got another problem with the new 0.28 verion of Gknot. After I´ve done my settings, the button "Add job to encoding Queue" in the Encoder Control Panel is grey and unavailable.
Pathes through Nandub and VirtualDub are set....


See at the moment you have to click on buttons "First pass" and "Nth pass" :) (you don't have to change there anything if you don't familiar with that dialog - just press OK). The same goes for Credits (if you're selected to encode them)

In the future it'll be more automated, but at the moment those settings have to be set...

[len0x]

Originally posted by maurus
Perhaps the only thing would be to put some defaults...


remember you mentioned "don't prompt on errors" option?
can you find out which option in registry is that (and what's the type and values) for me, pls ?
(I don't have 5.0.3 installed at the moment - working with 5.0.2...)

[Killstun]

First of all, thanks for the new GKnot. Was just wondering if AVIsynth files has to be in VirtualDubMod folder, or is it enough if they exist in the system32 folder? (on WinXP)

[ookzDVD]

@len0x,

If you don't mind, the changelog will be a little bit better :)

[Ecwfrk]

I intalled .28 alpha 5 and am getting the old log file problem.
In the setup it shows:
I:\Rips\2-1\2-1.log
Which is also the file it shows it couldn't open in the encoding window. The file that is actually written to the directory the movie is in is
I:\Rips\2-1\2-1_GKnot.log
It's adding _GKnot to the log file name for some reason. Haven't found any reason for it myself. Any idea where that's coming from?

Paths to everything is correct. Using the Nandub from the GKnot pack and the latest, fresh install of VDubMod
Also:
Divx 5.03 Pro
P4 2.4 on Win XP SP1

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by Ecwfrk
...and am getting the old log file problem.

no offence, but this is your first post and you have never seen a *_gknot.log file...
thank you for trying to help, but for alpha testing you might not be experienced enough. :)

wef.

[maurus]

Originally posted by len0x
remember you mentioned "don't prompt on errors" option?
can you find out which option in registry is that (and what's the type and values) for me, pls ?
(I don't have 5.0.3 installed at the moment - working with 5.0.2...)

I see with the registry:

For option Do not prompt for errors and warnigs:

Name key : Use dialogs
Type: REG_DWORD
Value: 0 (if is checked) / 1 (not checked)

[len0x]

thanks
I've put that option to be checked by default...

[Ruppl]

@ len0x

Thank´s for the info. Know works fine......:)
Very Happy with the new version Gknot..keep going

cu

[DoC hEx]

@len0x

I've done 3 rips so far with GK 0.28a5/Divx5.03 and all have given me a near perfect 700MB! Nice work! :)

[Blankman]

Originally posted by Morbo
Ditto SBreeze......

Im using DVX 5.0.2 being the only diff.....

No Log File after it finishes...

Im still using AVIsynth 2.0.8 and trying lanco resize....

**update**
The VirtualdubMOD included does not even work here....(settings i assume)....Clean re-do of the Mod folder makes it work,but still no COMP TEST LOG.....

Hmm... Using DivX Schizo Beta with AVIsynth 2.0.8 and VirtualdubSub keeps complaining that MPEG2DEC.sll is not an Avisynth 2.5 plugin. Heck, I know that. Why else would I have kept 2.08 installed?


-- I saw light at the end of the tunnel, but it was an oncoming train.

[summerbreeze]

Haw could you do that? I'm just curious
I finaly managed to make comp test fine but i can encode even a single movie???

[Ecwfrk]

Originally posted by TheWEF
no offence, but this is your first post and you have never seen a *_gknot.log file...
thank you for trying to help, but for alpha testing you might not be experienced enough. :)

wef.

I've been around here since Gknot was released. Never had a problem with GKnot before so I never had to post before.
And no, I've never seen a _gknot file before. Like I said, never had a problem before so I never had to look at one. Never had to do any trouble shooting. Following directions carefully can do that to a guy :D
After looking at it more carefully I see what it is. I simply thought it was an erroneus first pass log file. What the file is should be documented somewhere :)
It's a good thing to know. That little piece of info could have saved me hours of frustration. Seems obvious to check it now, never occured to me before.

The avs file worked fine. Everything else was good. Nothing I could find elsewhere came close to helping. That made the problem very frustrating.

Now, after checking it out some more, once I figured what the gknot.log file was, I found that when I add the script for the first pass into the virtualdubmod.jobs manually I get this error:
Avisynth open error
Load plugin: Unable to load
"c:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\ mpeg2dec3.dll"
And it refrences line 7 of the avs file.

Notice the space before the dll name. The space does not appear in the GK config under options. It doesn't show up in the avs file either. It's getting a space from somewhere. Where could it possibly come from?
If I put the scripts into VDubMod manually and remove the space, everything works great. But anytime I run through Gordian Knot, that space appears in the gknot.log file. I've deleted and reinstalled everything to the same effect. .28A4 works perfectly. But switching to .28A5 causes the same problem every time.
So, so wierd.

[summerbreeze]

First good rip finally - exact 700mb.
But i have to report another problem which causes my unsucces before.
When in engoding tab i choose - original 2pass - 1st pass respectivly original 2pass - 2nd pass when it comes to 2nd pass something get wrong and i didn't have avi in the end. When i choose multipas and 2 passes everything is fine. That looks strange to me

[len0x]

Originally posted by ookzDVD
@len0x,

If you don't mind, the changelog will be a little bit better :)

it's actually posted on the first message of sticky thread every time I'm releasing new alpha...

[len0x]

Originally posted by summerbreeze
But i have to report another problem which causes my unsucces before.
When in engoding tab i choose - original 2pass - 1st pass respectivly original 2pass - 2nd pass when it comes to 2nd pass something get wrong and i didn't have avi in the end. When i choose multipas and 2 passes everything is fine. That looks strange to me

It doesn't to me :)
I'm disabling all the options apart from two passes (in fact it'll be called multipass... at least for divx5) right about now :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Ecwfrk
Notice the space before the dll name. The space does not appear in the GK config under options. It doesn't show up in the avs file either. It's getting a space from somewhere. Where could it possibly come from?
If I put the scripts into VDubMod manually and remove the space, everything works great. But anytime I run through Gordian Knot, that space appears in the gknot.log file. I've deleted and reinstalled everything to the same effect. .28A4 works perfectly. But switching to .28A5 causes the same problem every time.
So, so wierd.

It is wierd, coz it indeed supposed to read the exact value from that editbox... (and no one else seems to have this problem) Can you try alpha 6?
(unfortunately I forgot to force stripping leading spaces for that version, but I did that straight after I released alpha 6... so anyway, in alpha 7, which I think will be last alpha, I'll trim spaces, so even theoretically this error will not be able to occur...)

[snowman386]

I am using beta 6. When encoding the credits sepatately, I get the error "credit settings are not set and no defaults are present", eventhough I have specified the settings.

[len0x]

Originally posted by snowman386
I am using beta 6. When encoding the credits sepatately, I get the error "credit settings are not set and no defaults are present", eventhough I have specified the settings.

yep, that was a typo, sorry about that, will be fixed in the next alpha...

[colordog]

Howdy -

I've been getting a random VDubMod error with alphas 5 and 6. In this case, random means the error will just 'happen' when it seems to want to, and if I retry the encode, it won't always repeat (in fact, usually doesn't repeat). It just seems to happen on either the 1st or 2nd pass about one out of six or seven times that it's launched. Also, this error has occurred either immediately when VDubMod is launched, or add the very end of the pass - it's never occurred at anywhere in the middle. Here's an example:

8:18:25 AM: Started DivX5 - Pass: 2: C:\vobs\MOVIE\VIDEO_TS\movie.avs
9:09:50 AM: Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2. Duration: 51 minutes, 23 seconds.
9:09:50 AM: Speed: 50.164 Frames per Second.
9:09:50 AM: *************************************
9:09:50 AM: EXCEPTION: Access violation at address 004044A9 in module 'GordianKnot.exe'. Read of address 656C691E
9:09:50 AM: EXCEPTION: Encoder Thread Terminated.

I believe that I'm using the latest VDubMod components - 1.4.13.2 v2 and the 3/26/2003 DLLs. Like I said, this error seems odd, because it's not reproducible, and I haven't encountered it when I used GKnot 0.27 with using AVS 2.5.1 and VDubMod, or alpha releases 3 and 4. I've just seen it on alphas 5 and 6.

Let me know if I can provide more information.

[len0x]

Originally posted by colordog
Howdy -
I believe that I'm using the latest VDubMod components - 1.4.13.2 v2 and the 3/26/2003 DLLs. Like I said, this error seems odd, because it's not reproducible, and I haven't encountered it when I used GKnot 0.27 with using AVS 2.5.1 and VDubMod, or alpha releases 3 and 4. I've just seen it on alphas 5 and 6.


I have some ideas about it - it's probably log file reading errors.
I've changed the way it's done for alpha 7...
Can you try it again ?

[colordog]

Will do!

[DoC hEx]

I'm getting the same errors with Alpha 7

Exception: Encoder Thread Terminated.
Exception: Access violation at address 004046BD in module 'GordianKnot.exe'. Read of address 656C691EI keep getting this everytime I try to run a comp test.

[len0x]

Originally posted by DoC hEx
I keep getting this everytime I try to run a comp test.

which is weird, coz I haven't touched comp test since alpha 3 or 4 probably...
But the question is - does this occur during encoding in alpha 7 ?
If not, then I know how to fix that in comp test as well...

[DoC hEx]

I’ve done a normal 2-pass encode on a short music video and it worked fine.

But then with the same source I tried to run the comp test and got the above error. So for me it’s only on the comp test that I have the problem. But I’ll do more tests on the 2-pass just to be sure.

[colordog]

I never got that error on comp tests - only on actual full passes, myself. I'll encode a few full-length movies tonight with alpha 7 and let you know what happens.

[snowman386]

I am having the same problem with alpha 7. Using alpha 6, the comp check worked fine.

[colordog]

I updated to alpha 7, and the comp check seems to have completely stopped working for me. When I click on "Save & Encode", and do any percentage comp check, the check takes '0 seconds' to complete... Now I'm getting Encoder thread termination errors 100% of the time when doing a comp check, instead of 0%.

Access violation at address 004046BD in module 'GordianKnot.exe'. Read of address 646C691E

I'll see if it actually lets me encode anything...

[len0x]

the problem was unrelated to log files...
(it's the addition of first/second single passes back caused me some problems...)

[colordog]

Comp check is working for me again now ... thanks!

As far as the other VDubMod encoder thread errors, I haven't gotten another one yet, but have only done two encodings. Have a bunch set up for today, will let you know.

[colordog]

@len0x

So far, I've done six 'full-length' encodes (two with alpha 7, and four with alpha 8). Alpha 8 definitely fixes the comp check bug, and it seems that 7 and 8 erradicate the VDubMod "Encoder Thread termination" error that I kept getting in alpha 6. (Six isn't the highest number for testing, but I'd usually get that error every 2nd or 3rd movie with alpha 6, so... :D )

@all developers

You guys rock! If those of us out here who have NO programming skills want to help, is there any other way we can outside of leeching off the lastest alpha/beta and greedily testing it? I'd like to contribute!

[len0x]

Originally posted by colordog
@len0x

So far, I've done six 'full-length' encodes (two with alpha 7, and four with alpha 8). Alpha 8 definitely fixes the comp check bug, and it seems that 7 and 8 erradicate the VDubMod "Encoder Thread termination" error that I kept getting in alpha 6. (Six isn't the highest number for testing, but I'd usually get that error every 2nd or 3rd movie with alpha 6, so... :D )


Good, we're gettings stable :) Now I have only one singinficant feature to implement before we release (won't tell you yet which one ;) )

Originally posted by colordog

@all developers


I'd like to see myself as many people indeed :cool:

Originally posted by colordog

You guys rock! If those of us out here who have NO programming skills want to help, is there any other way we can outside of leeching off the lastest alpha/beta and greedily testing it? I'd like to contribute!

That's exactly why I'm releasing alphas so fast... So that you guys can test it straight away...

[colordog]

I noticed that if I select TomsMoComp under Deinterlacing options, that in the AVscipt that "decomb.dll" is still un-rem'ed to be loaded - is this correct? If we use TomsMoComp, we don't need to have the decomb dll loaded, right?

[Ruppl]

If we use TomsMoComp, we don't need to have the decomb dll loaded, right?
@ colordog

This is correct! The decomb.dll got nothing to do with with TomsMoComp...

@ all

Someone here who tested the new alpha 9 with the Xvid Codec..I´m at work and cannot test...arghh

ca after work

[len0x]

incorrect loading of decomb.dll will be fixed :)
10x

[spud1980]

Will the new Gnot be support OGG stuff? Since Xvid is already supported?

[Micro@Dee]

Hi Folks!

Can I try to implement AviSplitCalc support into GNot?

cu, Micro@Dee!

[len0x]

@spud1980

OGM will be supported eventually, but not in 0.28

@Micro@Dee

What's AviSplitCalc ? Automatic splitting ?
Which mechanism are u thinking about ?

[Micro@Dee]

@len0x: AviSplitCalc is an automatic splitting tool for avifiles.

Look here: http://ia.microdee.net

I think it would be nice to have an option after the finishing of GNOT to split the file.

This evening I will inspect the delphi code of GNOT and then let's see ... ;-)

cu, Micro@Dee!

[Dark-Cracker]

Hi,

for the split i think vdubmod and the "save segmented avi" will do a better job.

Bye.

[hakko504]

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
for the split i think vdubmod and the "save segmented avi" will do a better job. ...with the little exception that the second file most likely isn't playable unless you put it back together with the first one.

'Save segmented Avi' does split by frame accuracy at a given MB, but in order to be able to play the file it must start with a keyframe, something 'Save Segmented Avi' doesn't care about at all. If you don't split at keyframe you will end up with audio/video desynch, missing frames at the split-point and some apps will not play the file at all.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
Hi,

for the split i think vdubmod and the "save segmented avi" will do a better job.

Bye.

if it's true, can somebody dig up vcf script commands to do that ?

*edit*
now after Hakko's reply - can it be done via jump to the last key frame ? (I mean can that funtion be accesible via vcf script command ?)

[hakko504]

Originally posted by len0x
*edit*
now after Hakko's reply - can it be done via jump to the last key frame ? (I mean can that funtion be accesible via vcf script command ?) I don't think so, but if you ask Belgabor nicely (i.e. use the feature request function at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=512622&group_id=65889&func=browse)) I'm sure it can be made available through scripting.

[len0x]

Originally posted by hakko504
I don't think so, but if you ask Belgabor nicely (i.e. use the feature request function at sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=512622&group_id=65889&func=browse)) I'm sure it can be made available through scripting.

just did :)

[pixolex]

Can't you upgrade the Gordian Knot rippack with the latest software you use..like VirtualDubMod and the others...

:o

Congratulations! Good work you are doing LENOX :) keep going...

[len0x]

If you're so anxious look here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=50507

some test installers there... As soon as we out of alpha stage proper installers will be offered...

[spud1980]

Hi,

The part where after you do the settings and recroping of your DVD2AVI project file and when you select Encode & Save, after which a dialogue box pops up for you to select the resize filters and noise filters?

Yep, I was wondering if in the version of Gnot the new and more popular filters eg. Fluxsmooth, C3d and Lancrosize would be acutally implemented in the program itself by which I mean not just included in the packs but integrated with radio button selections in addition to the standard filters. Or do users have to manually edit the avisynth script and load them etc in order to use them although the files are already within the directories. It's quite a impending step for less experience users like me who want to use them but dare not alter the defaults for fear of screwing the scripts up and the technicalities involved.

(although I've read in other forums that it's already included in o.27 but I don't see that option, there's only like the standard ones up to sharp bicubic and the last filter is called simple -fast
& good-)

Lastly, you know the options part where you get to config the settings for divx and xvid for the different passes and credits?
I was wondering if default settings are included for the layuser or either the software would autoconfigure them everytime you set the bitrate / resolution etc, or maybe it autoconfigs after you run a comp test or something or maybe it's a new step in the whole process itself where users have to manually configure them.

Cheers.

[len0x]

And I was wondering how carefully you read this development forum :)
Most of the answers are already out there...

Lancsoz resize is already in 0.28 since alpha 1 (and default, btw).
I'm still deciding on deafult noise filter - between Convolution3D and FluxSmooth (the name will not appear but they will be used).
In any case for noise filters - they all will be used I guess in the avs (just commented out) if you don't like default until we have flexible interface to plug in all the filters...

Regarding default settings - all that lazy user have to do at the moment is just press and say OK. All defaults will be automatically
confugured during that process. After that in principle you never ever have to see codec window again... I don't see much reason to include default settings yet (although if somebody can compile them into *.reg excluding postprocessing settings of the codec we can include them with GK now as well). In the future it'll be a bit different (read other threads...)

[spud1980]

Opps sorry about the thread thingy, I just got caught up in this, downloaded the alpha9 today, an hour before the alpha10 got released (sheesh).

Commented out of curiosity and interest after I've seen the actual alpha? Noticable cosmetic differences, caught my interests and just started pondering about the details.

I'm curious as to why Divx 3.11 Alpha is still included as a Codec since I suppose 5.02 and above pretty much does a better job? This would greatly reduce the need for Nandub to be included along with the stats files editor thingy (which I understand is used in conjunction with 3.11).

And I've always wondered what's the use of the Filelist writer? The Gnot tut didn't seem to mention that aspect at all (I figured out the Nandub and statfile thingy myself through some readings).

Lastly, I think the auto avi-segmenter feature (but perhaps make it an optional feature) will be really neat and will really bring gnot up on par with competiting s/w (if not already ahead or on par). DVX included a OGM cutter and stuff, not sure about avi cutter. And this other s/w which I've used before called DVDx has segmenter as well though not a optional feature on it, plus it does a very bad job of outputing inaccurate segment sizes specified by the users (20-30 megs off).

Cheers.

[CaptainCarrot]

Hi lenox,
I was just trying to encode a movie with xvid, and i could`t use the "encode credits separately"-option. In the "save and encode"-menu the trim-options were all greyed, so were was only one *.avs-file and the "encode credits separately" in the xvid-options was greyed as well. So i tried to fool gnot by pretending to do a divx-encode. Now the trim options were available and i created 2 *.avs-files. I could check the "encode credits separately" in the xvid-options as well, but hitting the "add job to encoding queue" simply closed the window and that was it. Did i do something wrong?

Greetings

edit: I'm using alpha 10

edit 2: OOOhhh, it's configured automatically in the advanced options... i didn't expect it to be that automatic, there isn't anything left to choose.

[len0x]

Originally posted by CaptainCarrot

edit 2: OOOhhh, it's configured automatically in the advanced options... i didn't expect it to be that automatic, there isn't anything left to choose.

Yep, it is configured automatically - all you have to do is to set the beginning of the credits :)
(that's why the option is grayed - not to mess around with several avs files...)
Glad you liked that feature :)

[mazzo]

Hi there

I've done my first encode with 028. The video was just .... GREEN ....

What happened?

My original avs was like this:

segmentedavisource("d:\video\simpsons.avi").converttoyv12()
trim(0,18933)+trim(24299,36937)

I was aiming at a filesize of 179 Mb, but ended up with approx. 20 after the audio mux.

Anyone got an answer?

I have Virtualdubmod, Divx 5.03 and Avisynth 2.5

[irasnyd]

Would it be possible to have an option to reset the XviD settings to defaults?

irasnyd

[kxy]

Got an vdenc.log file, load it to GK, got a warning regards to number of pixels not stored in divx 4. Click either on yes or no, then nothing shows up.

my vdenc runs like this with several pages...
1 0
0 0
0 0
0 0
0 0

[TheWEF]

avi splitting:

my brother aquaplaning just wrote some delphi code for analyzing avi files and finding the correct splitpoint. i'm going to add him to the devs list now so he can upload the code.

wef.

[FeWipS]

Hi there guys, i installed the new gknot alpha 10 yesterday to try it out, after some minor errors about missing dll's i fixed that and it worked fine, But
since i try to use xvid in my latest rips i get almost always undersized avi's, when i used gknot 0.27 for my last 10 rips( 3 of them xvid & 7 divx3.11) , all the divx3 rips are exactly 700mb or 1400mb when i make a 2cd rip, but the xvid always gets some less, 696 instead of 700 or 1390 instead of 1400mb, that kinda stuff, i had it with gknot 027 and now with the new alpha i tried over night, i got the same, again a very nice encoded xvid BUT 696mb instead of 700, anyone has a clue why xvid always gets a little undersized while divx3 always fits perfect? [ Sometimes i used ac3 sound and this time mp3 but no difference, always a little undersized :S ]
Any tips are welcome!

Greets

[len0x]

@mazzo
You configuration is quite unusual. But I know that 5.0.3 has problems with green frames... and regarding segmentedavisource it looks like a common problem not related to GK:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41085

@irasnyd

Reset to defaults when exactly?

@kxy

I'll try to fix that in the next alpha, but it's getting more and more difficult with loading all sort of stats files (ppl want the comp check working properly for every codec + load every stats/log file)

@Wef

If he can upload it as seperate unit, that's be great...
(I'll merge it somewhere...)

@FeWipS

Interesting, we have to investigate this problem - anybody else have the same issue ?

[N_F]

@FeWipS

Sounds more like an XviD issue to me.

You say you use 0.27 with XviD. You mean you used GordianKnot to create an avs-script and then encoded separately?

[majerle]

@Len0x
@FeWipS

from gordian log:
Bitrate: 1350 k(=1000)Bits/s

As far as i know xvid use k=1024 bits ...
And

(http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16935,
When Setting bitrate:
Entering 573440 will give an output avi of 560 MB. (i.e. KB=MB*1024)
)

may be the problem ?

@irasnyd

hit load defaults in xvid settings ( after hit "First Pass")

Best Regards

Andres

[FeWipS]

Originally posted by N_F
@FeWipS

Sounds more like an XviD issue to me. [that's true]

You say you use 0.27 with XviD. You mean you used GordianKnot to create an avs-script and then encoded separately?

yes with 0.27 i encoded with virtualdub separately

and @majerle

when u choose divx5 or xvid in gknot (027 or 028 doesn't matter) it counts already mb*1024 so that is not the problem i guess...

[Ruppl]

@ lenox

I´ve started a 1CD rip with alpha10 and Xvid, i`ll let you when recieve the same problems with the filesize...

or maybe the problem the problem are 1024...

bye;)

[len0x]

Originally posted by majerle
@Len0x
@FeWipS

from gordian log:
Bitrate: 1350 k(=1000)Bits/s

As far as i know xvid use k=1024 bits ...
And


See, that log of a bitrate calculation is obsolete for xvid, since it doesn't have a bitrate settings. It uses desired size instead...
So error can only be in the overhead/audio sizes or in the codec itself...

[FeWipS]

Originally posted by len0x
See, that log of a bitrate calculation is obsolete for xvid, since it doesn't have a bitrate settings. It uses desired size instead...
So error can only be in the overhead/audio sizes or in the codec itself...

my guess is also that it's the overhead/audio size, BUT how can i make it work? :D

[aquaplaning]

i have made a delphi unit for finding a keyframe for splitting in an avi file.
you can search for it by providing a ratio (e.g. 1/2) or a desired file size.
first tests show it pretty accurate...

@Wef
If he can upload it as seperate unit, that's be great...
(I'll merge it somewhere...)


i don't want to step down into the dark dungeons of sourceforge so i'll attach it to this post. ;)
a very small sample application is also included (only source, no binary!)

[len0x]

Great! :)
but where is the attach ? ;)

[hakko504]

Originally posted by len0x
but where is the attach ? ;) Waiting for a moderator to validate it: and it must be a moderator of this forum or a supermod so I can't do it :(

[len0x]

I rejected it once, but now I know what's it for :)
Doom ? :cool:

[colordog]

Possible bug introduced in a10 - haven't tried a11 released just minutes ago!

Using DivX, I set up the movie parameters, do not set a credits start point, and then click on Save & Encode. The filters window allows me to choose any of the four radio buttons under 'Trim', even though I didn't specify a credits start point.

I'm fairly sure this didn't happen in alphas 1-9.

[len0x]

Yep, I know what's the problem already...
(I was trying do disable it for XviD and forgot about divx...)
it's still exists in alpha 11...

[colordog]

Originally posted by len0x
Yep, I know what's the problem already...


Cool!

[DaveEL]

Originally posted by hakko504
Waiting for a moderator to validate it: and it must be a moderator of this forum or a supermod so I can't do it :(

Sorry it took so long checked attatchments this morning and didn't have any didn't check again until now.

DaveEL

[irasnyd]

In the alpha11, I noticed that in the title bar of GKnot, it says: "Gordian Knot 0.28 alpha11 (visit us at gordianknow.sourceforge.net)

The w is a typo I assume. Just thought I'd let ya know.

irasnyd

[Ruppl]

@ lenox and FeWipS

Just a few minutes ago my 1CD Xvid Rip(with alpha10)finished. The result is a ogm file which is 706MB large. For ogm´s I use the 1xVBR-MPR Frameoverhead.
Is there an chance to build in a ogg frameoverhead?

Filesize is ok for me;)

[cyberyeye]

Gordian Knot 0.28 alpha11 (visit us at gordianknow.sourceforge.net)

:D

Dev people are working too late in the night..... Anyway this typo is funny lol !

[cyberyeye]

Someone could correct me if i'm wrong but, it seemes that Ogm file doesn't use frame overhead for muxing ?

So this should be desactivated when using ogg in gk ?

Gk 0.28 > Bitrate:

Interleaving and avi overhead...

[v] Calculate frame overhead > should be checked
o No audio > should be checked

I suppose that this option should be good with ogm (i've not test it).

but maybe i'm wrong.....

[colordog]

I thought OGG/OGM support hadn't been incorporated into GKnot 0.28 yet?

[Ruppl]

@ colordog
OGM will be supported eventually, but not in 0.28
@ cyberyeye
I think I´m right with using the 1xvbr-mp3 offset setting. OGM needs less Sync-Offset then VBR-MP3. So my settings are good...

@ lenox

OGM support in later releases would make me so happy. Finished another nice 2CD Rip with the alpha11.
Good work, keep going:)

[irasnyd]

Some new cosmetic bugs I've found.

-In alpha12, the Divx3 option button (top right, bitrate tab) is cut off. (specifically the text "DivX 3)"
-In many areas of the program, there are large areas of text for instruction. These can be highlighted and changed by the user right now! (its not sticky, when you restart GKnot, the modifications are not saved). This can be remedied by changing the Enabled property of the memo tabs to false (I think).

Thats about it.

irasnyd

PS - I'm learning Delphi right now, so I might be able to help out soon.

[mazzo]

I have this problem:

When I open an .avs i GKnot, the preview screen will be gray if I state .converttoyuy2() or says nothing. If I use converttoyv12() everything seems ok.

But if I encode from that avs (yv12), I get no picture or just green in the final result.

How can that be?

[Mr. Chaos]

One thing I noticed with all the alphas so far is that the default audio directory never changes when configuring multiple encodings. It's always the one that was used the last time.

Is it possible to change that? IMHO it would make more sense if the directory where the original D2V file is located was taken as the default.

cheers,
Chaos

[len0x]

That was in GK forever, actually...
Good, that you reminded me (that annoyed me before :) )

[binky the stunt cat]

it seems that the comptest has been turned off again...
was this intentional?

[len0x]

Almost a FAQ:
Comp test is disabled if path to the VirtualDubMod is incorrect.

[binky the stunt cat]

that helps...
seems like a short sticky on the ins and outs of using the 0.28 betas would be helpful.
Suggestion: putting the path selectors to nandub and vdubmod on the options tab rather than their present position.

[MinosK]

Hey! I have a question... I have Alpha 15 of GordianKnot.. I have MPEG2Dec3.dll in GK folder and I deleted the old MPEG2DEC.dll. The "Use alternative mped2dec.dll in scripts" option is filled OK with mpeg2dec3.dll. But when I try to click the open button (to open the d2v file) I get an error message "Before you can use this you have to put MPEG2DEC.DLL into your GKnot-filder!". I know how to solve that problem (putting again the MPEG2DEC.DLL file into GKNOTS folder) but... What's about that error? Why is not using the new dll for displaying the d2v project file?

(Sorry for my bad English)

[Bro]

so....how did you manage to get your hands on alpha15 ????
at the moment theres only:
GordianKnot 0.28 alpha 14 ready for testing - XVID support is here!

[len0x]

I wish I knew how you managed to get alpha 15 :)

Anyway, the old check for mpeg2dec.dll is still there, coz it's needed to display the movie (mpeg2dec3.dll will not work for that but just for encoding). I've added check for presence of both of them, instead of just one...

[AmigaFuture]

Hello,

I'm using GK 0.28 alpha 13 with AviSynth 2.51 installed. With a Decomb.dll for version 2.5 as well as MPEG2Dec3.dll in GK's root with the option ticked & filename entered correctly. I'm curious as to why I keep getting "VideoSourceAVI error: The source image formation is not acceptable. (error code-2" with VirtualDubMod 1.4.13 V2?

I'm unable to encode a movie or even do a Comp Test with everything installed as the Intructions say with the Field Operations set to anything.

However, if I uninstall AviSynth 2.51 & go back to 2.08 & go back to an older version of Decomb.dll & change the (hehe) MPEG2Dec.dll settings back to older, I can then encode a movie OR de-interlace if I want.

EDIT:

After a lot of searching I found the problem here.. http://virtualdub.everwicked.com/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=997&

I should have known.. Man, what we tend to forget some times. I hope this will help & remind others when they get "Error Code -2" from VirtualDubMod (V2+). :) Now, on with the Beta testing.

[binky the stunt cat]

righto, next problem (i seem to be having alot of these :rolleyes: )

The codec settings are not saved, and previously created profiles are not showing up in the divx 5,03 codec dialog, in both the comptest config and "save as" config.

I guess i've done something else wrong again?

[len0x]

Codec settings on SaveAvs window are not picked up from defaults and not saved, coz they are using completely different setting from those will be used during encoding...
It's sort of a feature... (ppl who know what they are doing can change them easily, and those who don't don't have to click on codec settings at all...)

[MinosK]

Originally posted by len0x
I wish I knew how you managed to get alpha 15 :)

Anyway, the old check for mpeg2dec.dll is still there, coz it's needed to display the movie (mpeg2dec3.dll will not work for that but just for encoding). I've added check for presence of both of them, instead of just one...
SORRY!!! my false.... i have Alpha14.... not 15... Thanks for your answer!

[Rash]

Just a question, is it normal that VirtualDubMod shows "Projected File Size" around 90Mbs when doing comp test?

I'm using the latest VDubMod, alpha 14 and DivX 5.03. ;)
Thanks

[majerle]

@Rash
compt test are usually made at 5% of total lenght. so 90mb*20=1800 mb
or 90*(100/x%)

bye

Andres

[frodoontop]

When selecting the first pass settings for XVID under the options tab, the setting won't be saved. When you want to encode the standard settings are loaded again.
Besides this, Luma masking isn't really accepted by everyone. Some like it, most people don't. So it is a bit weird this is checked by default.
Other default option is VHQ at 1. This is good for quality, but is slow like hell. I don't think this should be the default value.

Just trying to help you guys...

[irasnyd]

I get the same bug as frodoontop above.

The settings in XviD are reset.

I also agree that Lumi Masking should be off by default. In my tests it looked worse.

irasnyd

[Rash]

@ Andres

OK, I know that. It is just that on GKnot + DivX 5.02, VirtualDub used to show around 300Kb as Projected File Size because that's the first-pass log file size.

Not that I'm complaining, I just wanted to know if that was normal. ;)

[len0x]

Describe what you do step by step, coz I cannot reproduce what you're saying...

[frodoontop]

OK, here it comes.
1. I open the .d2v file.
2. I go to the option tab, select the first pass default settings for XVID. (I'm using Umaniacs 14-4-2003.1500)
The settings I use are VHQ=0, Lumamasking=off, Qpel=on, Bframes=3,100,200, GMC=on, Discard first pass=off, rest are the default XVID values (load defaults).
3. Save & Encode. I use the default script, with no filtering.
4. I go to the XVID tab, first pass settings. And the result is that VHQ= 1 and GMC=off. Thus different from the previous settings. Other settings are still intact. I thought I had the problem also with Luma masking before, but somehow I can't reproduce this. I don't know if this is due to the XVID build I was using.

I used the second beta of Gordian Knot.

[len0x]

OK, it's not a bug. (well at least this was intended)

Default settings were introduced not to be shown on encode tab again.
They are used when you just click "Encode" without specifying codec settings for each encode. However if you press codec settings on encoder window, then standard (hardcoded) values are loaded, not the ones you specified as default ones (or if you saved them already for this encode then saved will be loaded...)

I don't quite understand if you have defaults already, why do you want to set them up again during each encode?

[CaptainCarrot]

@lenox
I guess frodoontop and irasynd were just confused by this behavior, and so was I. Usually you'd expect that if you want to alter the setting for a single encode that you get the default settings and start from there. And since GKnot is supposed to be an easy understandable tool with as few confusion as possible, maybe you should really load the user defined defaults in the encoder tab instead of the hardcoded.

Just my 2 cents

[len0x]

that makes sense, the question is though:
If you press that button second time - what do you expect - defaults again or previously saved ?

[frodoontop]

Now I understand...

Personally I would find it more logically if the saved values under options were loaded again.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by frodoontop
Personally I would find it more logically if the saved values under options were loaded again.

definitely - and a separate button to restore defaults.

[len0x]

@wef

saved values are loaded already
but what you mean by restore defaults? - deleting what was saved in the target directory already ?

P.S. Cunning feature I was just testing - automatic adjustment of resolution after comp test (to the threshold just below 80%)! It so simple to just scroll though slider and find the position giving you desired percentage! :)

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by len0x
but what you mean by restore defaults?

aeh... forget this comment - i was confused... :rolleyes:

wef.

[CaptainCarrot]

@lenox
correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought that a compression test is resolution-dependent, so if i.e. you get (after comp test) a value of, say, 40% and then adjust the resolution to have close to 80%, it is quite likely to get a different value if you rerun the comp test at that new resolution. I guess there probably won't be a big difference, but still..
I'd test it, but my pc is busy with encoding for at least another 4-5 hours.

[LordIntruder]

Hi.


I don't know if this has already been pointed out but in case of:

I noticed that Gknot produce invalide lines for convolution3D in the avs file.

Gknot writes this:

Convolution3d("movielq")

Instead of that:

Convolution3d (preset="movieLQ")

Same for HQ and others presets.

If you try to start both a compressibility test or to encode your movie, VD or VDM will give you a error message.

I noticed this problem since some beta. I have Avisynth 2.08 installed and the latest convolution3d DLL in the GKnot directory.

Hope this helps. :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by LordIntruder
Hi.
I noticed this problem since some beta. I have Avisynth 2.08 installed and the latest convolution3d DLL in the GKnot directory.


I believe it's convolution3d for Avisynth 2.08 problem.
If you install both packs properly (Avisynth 2.5 + filters) everything will work just fine...

[Jing]

I just finished a 2-CD rip of The Thing using Beta 2, and the audio in the split avi files is out of sync by a couple of seconds, while the audio in the unsplit file was fine. I don't know what caused this, but I do have noticed that 1 frame was dropped in the split process:

(from thing_GKnot.log)
...
12:33:10 PM: Encoded: 155753 Frames.
12:33:10 PM: Speed: 15.090 Frames per Second.
...
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(0,84772);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\The Thing\\thing_part1.avi");
...
VirtualDub.subset.AddRange(84772,70980);
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("E:\\The Thing\\thing_part2.avi");
...

since 84772+70980=155752 < 155753. I don't think this would cause the audio to go out of sync, but I don't really know how it works. So maybe it's something that should be looked into.

BTW, thanks for the great job!

[Jing]

These little bugs are mostly just annoyances in the install and uninstall process and do not affect the functionality of the programs. However, it would be nice to get it right.

I am running Windows 2000 Pro.

First of all, after installation, Gordian Knot does not appear on the list of programs in Add/Remove Programs. This could be fixed merely by an entry in the Windows Registry, and it should be fixed for consistency.

Also, it seems the uninstall program simply delete the programs and the program folder, without touching the registry keys. I assume this is to preserve user settings in case of a reinstall. And there is a "Delete Registry Keys" button in the Options tab, which restores default settings. It works fine, although a bit unusual since uninstall is supposed to clean up the registry as well.

On the other hand, "Huffyuv AVI lossless video codec (Remove Only)" appears in Add/Remove Programs, but remove doesn't work due to a invalid UninstallString.

Lastly, all the Start Menu items are installed only for the user who did the install, i.e. Administrator in my case. It's probably preferable to make it available for All Users by default instead.

Thanks again.

[SubConscious]

These little bugs are mostly just annoyances in the install and uninstall process and do not affect the functionality of the programs. However, it would be nice to get it right.

These are not bugs. Bugs prevent a program to work correctly as it should be (this is how I chose the installers to work).

First of all, after installation, Gordian Knot does not appear on the list of programs in Add/Remove Programs. This could be fixed merely by an entry in the Windows Registry, and it should be fixed for consistency.

At the beginning I have done it like that but then I thought that it is better to be only as a link, because after all it does the same job and it doesn’t mess a lot with windows.

Also, it seems the uninstall program simply delete the programs and the program folder, without touching the registry keys. I assume this is to preserve user settings in case of a reinstall. And there is a "Delete Registry Keys" button in the Options tab, which restores default settings. It works fine, although a bit unusual since uninstall is supposed to clean up the registry as well.

When you press the button “Delete Registry Keys” and close GKnot then the registry keys have been deleted and not replaced by the defaults. I believe that the most people will find it annoying to uninstall GKnot to install a newer version and see that all their settings have gone. After all you can delete them manually.

On the other hand, "Huffyuv AVI lossless video codec (Remove Only)" appears in Add/Remove Programs, but remove doesn't work due to a invalid UninstallString.

Huffyuv AVI lossless video codec indeed has problem with uninstallation. This is a problem which can’t be fixed because the installation of the codec is made by the creator of the codec.

Lastly, all the Start Menu items are installed only for the user who did the install, i.e. Administrator in my case. It's probably preferable to make it available for All Users by default instead.

You are right about that. I never thought about it. From now on the Start Menu items will be available for All Users if the user who is doing the installation has privileges on the other accounts. This will be applied in the next GKnot release.

[BiaTch 5.0]

Is it possible to do 3 or more passes with DVX5.4 ? I can't seem to find how to set this up.

[majerle]

@BiaTch 5.0
Sure you can ! :p
go to encoder, press add job, check divx 5
You have "First Pass" button, "Nth pass" button, and "Number of passes" from 2 to 6.
But have you latest divx 5.03beta fully registered ?

regards

Andres

[Jing]

These are not bugs. Bugs prevent a program to work correctly as it should be (this is how I chose the installers to work).


Sorry, my mistake. I meant "features". ;-)


At the beginning I have done it like that but then I thought that it is better to be only as a link, because after all it does the same job and it doesn’t mess a lot with windows.


Fair enough. It's just that I thought it's a good idea to keep it consistent with standard Windows behaviour, since GKnot "messes" with the registry anyway.


When you press the button “Delete Registry Keys” and close GKnot then the registry keys have been deleted and not replaced by the defaults. I believe that the most people will find it annoying to uninstall GKnot to install a newer version and see that all their settings have gone. After all you can delete them manually.


Understood. I just thought that was unusual too. But if you really want to avoid messing with the Windows registry, which I think is an admirable goal, user settings could be saved in a simple text configuration file, and the user has the choice of keeping or deleting it at the time of uninstall.


Huffyuv AVI lossless video codec indeed has problem with uninstallation. This is a problem which can’t be fixed because the installation of the codec is made by the creator of the codec.


No problem. Just pointing that out.


You are right about that. I never thought about it. From now on the Start Menu items will be available for All Users if the user who is doing the installation has privileges on the other accounts. This will be applied in the next GKnot release.


Thank you very much. Looking forward to the final release.

[BiaTch 5.0]

Originally posted by majerle
@BiaTch 5.0
Sure you can ! :p
go to encoder, press add job, check divx 5
You have "First Pass" button, "Nth pass" button, and "Number of passes" from 2 to 6.
But have you latest divx 5.03beta fully registered ?

regards

Andres
Thanks buddy, I never went that far, I expected it to be in the options bar :P

Thank god GKnot now supports Nth pass, DVX504 I can't take DVX's shit config.

[Selur]

(speaking of Xvid)
hope this wasn't emntioned before, but some people tend to do the 1st pass, shutdown the computer. Now the restart the computer but can't add a Xvid 2nd pass to the encodeing queue.

Multipass, only adds 1st pass
same for First pass
and Nth pass wants an DivX4-log-File

Would be nice to be able to add a second pass to the encoding queue on it's own ;)

Cu Selur

Ps.: Problem came up in a german forum.

[len0x]

can you please submit the bug at SF in the bugs section ?
(so that I will not forget about it)

[len0x]

Originally posted by Jing
I just finished a 2-CD rip of The Thing using Beta 2, and the audio in the split avi files is out of sync by a couple of seconds, while the audio in the unsplit file was fine.

I bet if you open final avi in VdubMod you'll see warning "improper VBR header detected"...
Since option to ignore VBR headers cannot be enforced in the script, I'd better switch to nandub for splitting (will do for the final version).

[Selur]

yup, no problem, it'll be posted ;)

[MinosK]

The auto split feature is working really really great (in beta4 only)!!! Why don't you make GKNOT to also autosplit the .sub files??? I believe it is simple.. The comand line usage of vobsub cutter is:

rundll32 vobsub.dll,Cutter <src> <dst> <countfromstart> <hh1:mm1:ss1:ms1> [<hh2:mm2:ss2:ms2>]

(but i'm sure you olready know that...)

Can you make the autosplit to make the 2ed cd to start approximately 10 sec before the end of cd1??

[Wilbert]

I also installed Gknot rip pack and beta 3. I have a few questions/comments:

1) When opening a huffyuv-avi (yuy2) the preview doesn't show anything? I really appreciate if you could look at this.

Some less important stuff:

2) The one pass is greyed out, could you enable this?

3) Is Nandub used when encoding/muxing the audio? Because I can't encode/mux the audio without installing Nandub. Isn't it better to use VdubMod for this?

4) About the deinterlace options, could you add a standard option:

Telecide()

for correcting swapped fields/phase shifts. I guess this is not important for dvd's, but for captures it is often used.

Sorry, if any of this is changed in beta 4.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Wilbert
1) When opening a huffyuv-avi (yuy2) the preview doesn't show anything? I really appreciate if you could look at this.


My knowledge in this area (AVI2AVI) is a bit limited. Can this be realted to Avisynth ? (may be you can post sample of avi file here, so we can have a look. All samples of avi that I tried opening with GK were fine...)

Originally posted by Wilbert

2) The one pass is greyed out, could you enable this?


I think this was disabled since 0.27 (There were no 1-pass mode for a while). It'll be back after 0.28...

Originally posted by Wilbert

3) Is Nandub used when encoding/muxing the audio? Because I can't encode/mux the audio without installing Nandub. Isn't it better to use VdubMod for this?


Nandub is used only for divx3 encoding. All other modes (divx5, xvid, muxing & splitting) are performed by vdubmod...
So you have any errors when nandub is not present ?

Originally posted by Wilbert

4) About the deinterlace options, could you add a standard option:
Telecide()


:) Deinterlacing becomes the most confusing part on save avs window :)
I'm not sure if I can fit in one more option unless I split it into two columns (like I did with resizing method)...

[Wilbert]

My knowledge in this area (AVI2AVI) is a bit limited. Can this be realted to Avisynth ? (may be you can post sample of avi file here, so we can have a look. All samples of avi that I tried opening with GK were fine...)
I will post a short sample (after eastern).

So you have any errors when nandub is not present ?
Yes, I only see the audio muxing/encoding disabled (I'm not behind my own comp, so I don't know the exact options) check, when Nandub is not installed. The other (about) four options are not present.

Deinterlacing becomes the most confusing part on save avs window I'm not sure if I can fit in one more option unless I split it into two columns (like I did with resizing method)...
Oh, ok. If it is not to much work :) But if you don't do it, it's also fine.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Wilbert
Yes, I only see the audio muxing/encoding disabled (I'm not behind my own comp, so I don't know the exact options) check, when Nandub is not installed. The other (about) four options are not present.


That'll be fixed. I wanted to do that ages ago, but forgot :)

[len0x]

Originally posted by MinosK
The auto split feature is working really really great (in beta4 only)!!! Why don't you make GKNOT to also autosplit the .sub files??? I believe it is simple.. The comand line usage of vobsub cutter is:

rundll32 vobsub.dll,Cutter <src> <dst> <countfromstart> <hh1:mm1:ss1:ms1> [<hh2:mm2:ss2:ms2>]


Thats not trivial - I don't have cutting points in hh1:mm1:ss1:ms1 format, only frames... So you can submit request at SF, may be at some point we'll do that...

Originally posted by MinosK

Can you make the autosplit to make the 2ed cd to start approximately 10 sec before the end of cd1??

I'm not convinced that this is usefull. Some ppl want this, some not, some want 15 sec, some 2-3 keyframes, some want manual adjustment - the number of options is huge. It's not worth making everybody happy with this feature (yet) :)

[drebel]

- stats file for second pass of xvid can now be loaded

Not yet here with beta4.Trying beta5 .... :(

[len0x]

what exactly doesn't work ?

[BiaTch 5.0]

This issue may have been fixed in current beta,

[Gknot beta2] I had sync issues with mp3 that I found where caused when Gknot split the encoded video file

[drebel]

I though the "load" button didnt serve only stats file created by gnot ,but also manually from virtualdubmod...

[X-guy]

When i try manualy work with VirtualDubMod,when i chose the compression under the Video tab,it gives me an error of "This application has failed to start because MSVCRTD.dll was not found..."
Its with the Beta5,clean installed after uninstalled the previous one.

[Claudius]

That warning happened with me also and I copied msvcrtd.dll in the sistem32 and it worked.

[X-guy]

found it

[len0x]

Originally posted by drebel
I though the "load" button didnt serve only stats file created by gnot ,but also manually from virtualdubmod...

You thought correct - I have no problem loading *.stats as well a vdenc.log...
(but if you rename vdenc.log to something else it won't work since I have no way of finding out whether it's 5.0.2 log or vdubmod...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by BiaTch 5.0
This issue may have been fixed in current beta,

[Gknot beta2] I had sync issues with mp3 that I found where caused when Gknot split the encoded video file

It is fixed in beta 5...

[mazzo]

I've seen some discussion about Nandub/VirtualDubMod here, and my experience is: When I use GKnot 0.28 (not the LATEST version, I haven't tested that yet) and VirtualDubMod muxes the audio, it will be delayed with approx 120 ms. This will not happen if I mux with Nandub.

I am talking about encoding from avi here, not from DVD.

Question: I see that there is a whole new rip pack now from april 19. What do I need to use the latest 0.28 version of GKnot?

[cca]

When I press the Load button trying to load an XviD stats file, I get a "Floating point division by zero" error. Is this going to be fixed eventualy?

[len0x]

Originally posted by cca
When I press the Load button trying to load an XviD stats file, I get a "Floating point division by zero" error. Is this going to be fixed eventualy?

are you able to do that with 0.27 (the same stats file)?

[cca]

@lenox:

Nope. It doesn't work with 0.27 either. I think it only happens with XviD encodes that have bframes enabled. But it is annoying because I can load the same file in the "Nandub files" tab with the "Open" button.

[len0x]

Originally posted by drebel
I though the "load" button didnt serve only stats file created by gnot ,but also manually from virtualdubmod...

I found small bug preventing vdenc.log being loaded from different locations than project. Should be ok in the next version....

[len0x]

Originally posted by cca
[BNope. It doesn't work with 0.27 either. I think it only happens with XviD encodes that have bframes enabled. But it is annoying because I can load the same file in the "Nandub files" tab with the "Open" button. [/B]

Well I had a look and I can't do anything :)
See, loading takes into account snip size of the comp test. So only stats files generated by comp test can be loaded this way...
In fact "load" means "load comp test results", not "load first pass"...

[LordIntruder]

Hi.


A suggestion about differents bitrates used for movie and credits.

Could you code a credit option that, when selected and filled, tell people the new bitrate for the movie? Of course if you use Gknot to do all the encoding stuff this option is useless as it recalculate itself the correct bitrate. But people using Gknot only to make a quick AVS and encode the stuff manually with VirtualDub would enjoy such an option. :)

I would! :)

You can get this information by letting Gknot to encode the credits and then you hit "abort". In the job area it will then write the new bitrate for the movie. Then you hit abort again to stop the movie encoding. Yes we can do that but it's not very fine, you'll agree, and should be great to have a new box in the bitrate tab for example that would allow us to fill it and read directly what we need.

Anyway whatever you decide, thanks for all. :)

[X-guy]

Hi guys i got this little problem...
i ripped a movie to XViD+OGG,now when GK finishes the job and mux the video with the ogg,nandub just crashes with vorbis.dll error,but when i try to mux the two with oggmux,it works fine,any idea why?
I was a way while it was ripping,when i came back the movie rip was finished but when i opened the file it gave me an error of libmplayer.dll,so thats why i had to use the oggmux program to mux them again,btw with oggmux the final file size was much more accurate then the GK calculation (GK had an error of -3MB while oggmux had just the requested file size).

[drebel]

Well I had a look and I can't do anything
See, loading takes into account snip size of the comp test. So only stats files generated by comp test can be loaded this way...
In fact "load" means "load comp test results", not "load first pass"...

I 'm not a coder and hell i dont want to patronise u (sorry in advance) ,but is there a way to open an xvid.stats file containing b-frames with "open nandub stats" method instead of throwing that ugly "floating division by zero" automaticaly from "load button" (and in the same time auto-answer "no" to that question about the correct number of frames)?.You 'll save a LOT of people from troubles (especially the nOObs)

Just a thought...

[Wilbert]

The huffyuv file (five frames) can be downloaded here:

http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/huffyuv.avi

The problem is that the preview doesn't show anything (tried with beta 3).

[majerle]

@X-guy
Nandub isn't supporting ogg, neither Gordian, now.

Encode video with gordian and audio with besweet, mux with virtualdubmod or ogmuxer !

Regards

Andres

[X-guy]

Originally posted by majerle
@X-guy
Nandub isn't supporting ogg, neither Gordian, now.

Encode video with gordian and audio with besweet, mux with virtualdubmod or ogmuxer !

Regards

Andres

Well it did encode with the Ogg file,just the player wont open it with a dll error,weird,but thanx,yeah im muxing the files manualy just as i thought.

[len0x]

Originally posted by Wilbert
The huffyuv file (five frames) can be downloaded here:
http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/huffyuv.avi
The problem is that the preview doesn't show anything (tried with beta 3).

wow, I can't play that file with anything. Moreover I cannot even see it properly with VDubMod (it's showing very very scrumbled picture...)

[len0x]

Originally posted by drebel
I 'm not a coder and hell i dont want to patronise u (sorry in advance) ,but is there a way to open an xvid.stats file containing b-frames with "open nandub stats" method instead of throwing that ugly "floating division by zero" automaticaly from "load button" (and in the same time auto-answer "no" to that question about the correct number of frames)?.You 'll save a LOT of people from troubles (especially the nOObs)
Just a thought...

It's impossible with just _one_ button, only by instroducing another button this can be done :)
Coz there is no way for me to know in advance what the hell are you loading :cool:

[Wilbert]

wow, I can't play that file with anything. Moreover I cannot even see it properly with VDubMod (it's showing very very scrumbled picture...)
It looks garbage on this pc too. Don't know what went wrong. Please, try the following file:

http://www.geocities.com/wilbertdijkhof/huffyuv4.avi

[len0x]

well, I checked the way avi is loaded and found this dll is responsible for that:

avifil32.dll

So I guess there is nothing we can do about it... (I checked a couple of versions I could find, but no luck) If someone has dll which can load those types of avi file - let me know...

[mazzo]

When choosing 112 as CBR on the MP3, BeSweet will downsample to 44.1 automatically.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
When choosing 112 as CBR on the MP3, BeSweet will downsample to 44.1 automatically.

I have troubles understanding - is this bug, feature or suggestion ? :)

[mazzo]

It is a fact, in other words - a bug.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
It is a fact, in other words - a bug.

Then I'll tell you that this is a feature since 0.27...
(the same goes for VRB mp3 actually). I didn't do that on purpose - that's how it's always worked...

[mazzo]

Well, it works ok if you put "resample 48" in the command line.

When it downsamples to 44.1, the audio falls out of sync in the final mux.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
When it downsamples to 44.1, the audio falls out of sync in the final mux.

that's a differrent problem then... I'm not really an expert in audio. Can someone tell me if downsampling works in general? (i.e. no problem in muxing afterwards)

[idanm19]

Hello everyone !
(I updated cut.bat a little bit ...)
untill the subtitles auto-split feature is implemented, I have a batch file to make the job, maybe someone else will find it useful... (see attachment, rename it from cut.txt to cut.bat or copy&paste)

@echo off
echo Subtitles (2 parts) cutter automate and avi renamer by Idan Miara
echo Useage: cut (hh:mm:ss.ms) (SUB_SRC) [AVI_NAME] [DEST_MOVIE_NAME]
echo:

rem change the rar.exe path if needed
set RAR="C:\Program Files\WinRAR\RAR.exe"

rem ------------ VARIABLES SET ------------

if %2x==x goto ERROR

set CUT_POS=%1

set SUB_SRC=%2

set AVI=%3
if %AVI%x==x set AVI=%SUB_SRC%
set AVI1=%AVI%_part1.avi
set AVI2=%AVI%_part2.avi

set DEST=%AVI%
if not %4x==x set DEST=%4
if not %5x==x set DEST=%4 %5
if not %6x==x set DEST=%4 %5 %6
if not %7x==x set DEST=%4 %5 %6 %7
if not %8x==x set DEST=%4 %5 %6 %7 %8
if not %9x==x set DEST=%4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9

set DEST1=%DEST% [1of2]
set DEST2=%DEST% [2of2]

if not exist %RAR% goto ERROR
if not exist %SUB_SRC%.idx goto ERROR
if not exist %SUB_SRC%.sub goto ERROR

rem ------------ EXECUTE ------------

rundll32 vobsub.dll,Cutter %SUB_SRC% temp1 0 0:0:0.0 %CUT_POS%
rundll32 vobsub.dll,Cutter %SUB_SRC% temp2 1 %CUT_POS%
ren temp1.idx "%DEST1%.idx"
ren temp1.sub "%DEST1%.sub"
ren temp2.idx "%DEST2%.idx"
ren temp2.sub "%DEST2%.sub"

%RAR% a -m5 "%DEST1%.rar" "%DEST1%.sub"
%RAR% a -m5 "%DEST2%.rar" "%DEST2%.sub"
del "%DEST1%.sub"
del "%DEST2%.sub"

ren "%AVI1%" "%DEST1%.avi"
ren "%AVI2%" "%DEST2%.avi"
echo:
echo DONE !
echo:
goto END

:ERROR
echo hh:mm:ss.ms: Cut possition (see comment*)
echo SUB_SRC: the subtitle name (without the .idx .sub extention, NO SPACES)
echo AVI_NAME: don't append the _partx.avi
echo just the name before the "_" (NO SPACES)
echo DEST_MOVIE_NAME: movie name, may consist up to 6 words (5 spaces)
echo:
echo Example: input: "HI_RISK_SCN.idx", "Hi_Risk_part1.avi"
echo "HI_RISK_SCN.sub", "Hi_Risk_part2.avi"
echo:
echo Prompt: cut 0:36:19.440 HI_RISK_SCN Hi_Risk Hi Risk
echo:
echo Output: "Hi Risk [1of2].avi", "Hi Risk [1of2].idx", "Hi Risk [1of2].rar"
echo "Hi Risk [2of2].avi", "Hi Risk [2of2].idx", "Hi Risk [2of2].rar"
echo:
echo * Edit path for rar.exe in cut.bat (if not "C:\Program Files\WinRAR\RAR.exe")
echo * Defaults: AVI_NAME:=SUB_SRC, DEST_MOVIE_NAME:=AVI_NAME
echo * how to find the cut possition:
echo open moviename_part1.avi with VirtualDub and then push CTRL+RIGHT ARROW.
echo look inside the brackets at bottom where it says: Frame...
echo close the file moviename_part1.avi in VirtualDub, or else it won't be renamed.

:END
pause

[len0x]

=====================
known problems:

audio-bitrates below 128 (in lame) can cause sync-problems (and sound terrible), because lame is automatically
downsampling to 32 or even 22kHz. i highly recommend to use 128 or 160 and nothing else. to avoid downsampling you
have to add "--resample 48" to your lame commandline options if you encode at low bitrates. also downsampling to 44.1
with BeSweet and ssrc should be no problem.
=====================

I guess BeSweet still has this problem probably...

[mazzo]

I find giving sound on old movies higher bitrates than 96 to be overkill, it's better to give as much bitrate as possible to the video, or ....?

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
I find giving sound on old movies higher bitrates than 96 to be overkill, it's better to give as much bitrate as possible to the video, or ....?

I'm doing lots of old movies rips (the most actually). Sound is usually just ac3 stereo or even mono which I just mux without trascoding (although I do 2CD rips... - b&w old movies compress really badly...)

[butterw]

The ability to handle properly (reasonable quality, no sync issues)
96kbps CBR MP3 stereo (from AC3 or wav)
48kbps CBR MP3 mono (from mono wav, for TV caps)
is essential to any encoding application in avi container IMO.

[len0x]

It's not GK problem.
I can't add "--resample 48" automatically coz I don't know input frequency... So you have to that manually (and you can in Custom MP3...) Lame does resampling _automatically_, so no blames to GK...

[stax76]

MP3 CBR does not work anyway, in order to mux it properly VDMod 1.5.1 is required...

[len0x]

Originally posted by Dolemite
MP3 CBR does not work anyway, in order to mux it properly VDMod 1.5.1 is required...

true... bummer for CBR ppl :)

[mazzo]

I mux it with nandub, after vdubmod 1.4.13 has made a try. It's better.

[pixolex]

I try to make a 6th pass encoding with divx and when a choose to start the encoding...GKNOT BLOCKS :confused: i have to close GKNOT and start again, every time it do the same thing, i didn't try with another number of passes...i didn't have time :(

With GKnot 0.28 RC

[len0x]

Originally posted by pixolex
I try to make a 6th pass encoding with divx and when a choose to start the encoding...GKNOT BLOCKS :confused: i have to close GKNOT and start again, every time it do the same thing, i didn't try with another number of passes...i didn't have time :(

With GKnot 0.28 RC

Just tried 6 passes with 5.0.5 - no problem whatsoever...

[pixolex]

i'm not in home, but when i go back, i'll try again!
Just in the end of the day :(

But it's strange becouse all the jobs are in the queue waiting normaly, but Gknot don't start virtualdubmod. I have to shutdown the program to remove the job or change the number of passes.

i try it 2 times and it does the same thing, at the third time i choose 2 passes and it start normali. Maybe i did something roung or miss some option, i don't know, but there are no error messages.

Sorry for my english :(

[Bro]

how much difference between 2pass and 3-6pass?

[len0x]

Someone did research a while ago and conclusion was it's not worth doing more than 4 passes. But 3-passes ussually have some definite improvements over 2...

p.s. it's not mine opinion...

[CaptainCarrot]

Hi lenox,
since DivX 5.04 the CompChecks are by default running at 97% (q=2, which was 100% before). I think that should be changed to 100% (q=1).

Greetings

[len0x]

Originally posted by CaptainCarrot
Hi lenox,
since DivX 5.04 the CompChecks are by default running at 97% (q=2, which was 100% before). I think that should be changed to 100% (q=1).

Greetings

wot about ppl who use 5.0.2 ?

[CaptainCarrot]

wot about ppl who use 5.0.2 ?
hm, first I'd say there's no reason since 5.05 seems to have improved quite a bit compared to 5.02 (at least from my first experiences, haven't done too much testing yet) but since everything depends on ppls point of view I'd suggest that if you still want to stay compatible it would be nice if you added a default tab for comp test (like for 1st, nth and credit-pass) or made the settings-tab in the comp-check-menu remember changes.

[pixolex]

well...i installed the final release of GK and try to encode in 6th passes...BUT there are the same problem with me, the credits don't start to encode..the virtualdubmod doesn't start...but with 2 3 4 or 5 passes every thing go OK...WHY?!?!? ther are any diference between 5 or 6 passes...i have the latest codec pack with divx 5.05 i don't understand :confused:

i attached a print screen...with 6 passes!

Edit - DaveEL: Image deleted as its not useful.

[len0x]

Originally posted by pixolex
ther are any diference between 5 or 6 passes...

Indeed there're not any... Just don't do 6 passes then - you have to be paranoid to go higher than 4 anyway...

[pixolex]

:( if there are no other way...

i'm not paranoid i just have a NEW :P 2500+ barton working in dual channel :) and i think the precessor it's cold... ;)

it's just to experimenting...

BUT if you recomend a max of 4 passes...THE MASTER KNOWS!!:D



Congratulations for the marvelous work you have been doing LENOX! :)

THANKS!

[wserg]

Thanks, LenOx!!

Congratulations to u!:)

[pixolex]

:( there's not a option to delete intermediate files if we encode without credits...

[CaptainCarrot]

there's not a option to delete intermediate files if we encode without credits...

What kind of intermediate files would you want to delete? When doing the credits extra, you get movie_movie.avi and movie_credits.avi as intermediate files which are then merged to movie_avi. If you encode whithout credits, you don't have these intermediate files (i think, am i wrong?).

[pixolex]

but you have the avi without the sound ;)...i think the mp3 file should not be deleted...but the main movie with no sound yes.

[len0x]

about 6 passes problem - it appears to exits only when doing credits as well. If you just select 6 passes without cretits - evrything's fine. (I have no idea how it's related, but I'll have a look when I'm back...)

[pixolex]

Yes i tried it with credits, i forgot to say it :o

And about the delete of intermediate files...with no credits ;)

[pixolex]

:( why when i open a dvd2avi project in gknot it says "File is not a valid dvd2avi project (v1.76), avi or avs file!"

i use the dvd2avi that came with Gknot...there are any option that i miss???!!!:confused: all my previews d2v where maked with 0.27 gknot and i don't have any problem...

Please some one help me!

i attached the proj.

[pixolex]

:( well i solved my problem by downloding other version of dvd2avi 1.76

here http://www.slunecnice.cz/product/DVD2AVI/

but some one can say me what is the problem???

[butterw]

I want to compress avi and avs files + the files audio stream.

- Input : lighty compressed avi with wav audio (or corresponding avs)
- Output : compressed avi with mp3 audio

Currently this feature is not supported in GK ? you can only process
audio from an external file ?

Would it be possible to add a 'demux audio from file' button to generate automatically the audio file to be processed if wanted ?

[mazzo]

Seems like I have to stick to Nandub to mux audio, maybe that is because I often use bitrates like 96 or 112 Kbps mono. VirtualDobMod is ALWAYS out of sync.

VirtualDubMod sync will also provide smaller files than muxing with Nandub.

Anyone who knows anything about this issue?

[AmigaFuture]

Hi. I'm using DivX 5.0.5 Pro, GordianKnot.CodecPack.1.1, GordianKnot.RipPack.0.28.Setup. I rendered Braveheart last night to 3 CDs but even with the Split checked it didn't split. The audio was also a little off sync. I also used 4 passes. I'll try 2 passes (usual) tonight & see what happens.

Brilliant work with GKnot! The work is Much appriciated. :)

P.S. I joined the files & muxed them myself, now they're fine. :)

[colordog]

Howdy -

Is GKnot 0.28 compatible with the newly released VDubMod 1.5.1.1? Or no?

[aquaplaning]

@AmigaFuture:
there is a bug splitting large files. see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52103

[Doom9]

@colordog: many things have changed so without actually having checked I'd say no. But I suppose the next version will be..

[DaveEL]

0.28.1 uses the new virtualdubmod

DaveEL

[AmigaFuture]

@aquaplaning

Originally posted by aquaplaning
@AmigaFuture:
there is a bug splitting large files. see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52103


I read it. I'm still doing it by hand because of bugs still in GK.
I'm now using 0.28.1 & am now getting: Member "SetNandubCompatibility" not found

This is after it renders completely & then does it's (I assume) split checking. Any suggestions? Thanks.

[len0x]

but it wasn't suppose to be released anyway...

0.28.2 will solve the problems...

[tekman8]

There is a bug in 0.28.2 that's very bothersome. Gknot wants to use mpeg2dec3.dll for "The Day The Earth Stood Still", and that creates a virtual dub error when doing a compresssibility check that states it is not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, which stops everything. Will you please correct this problem at your earliest convenience?

THANK YOU!:D

[colordog]

Originally posted by tekman8
Gknot wants to use mpeg2dec3.dll for "The Day The Earth Stood Still", and that creates a virtual dub error when doing a compresssibility check that states it is not a avisynth 1.0 plugin, which stops everything.


If you have avisynth 1 or 2.0.x on your system (instead of AVsynth 2.5), you haven't properly installed GKnot and its supporting programs.

If you have VirtualDub on your system (instead of VirutalDubMod), then you haven't properly installed GKnot and its supporting programs.

[tekman8]

Hi Colordog,

I have properly installed the latest rip and system/codec packs. That should suggest that I have the latest avisynth and virtual dub mod software installed. If not, then that should suggest that there was something wrong with the latest rip packs. In either case, gknot or robot4rip seems to have chosen avi2dec3.dll and created my problem. If I manually correct the avs file everything works ok. My question is: When will the problem be fixed?

THANK YOU!:confused:

[colordog]

GKnot is supposed to use mpeg2dec3, which is why it's selected as default upon installation. This MPEGsource plugin allows GKnot and its program suite to process in YV12 colorspace. Its presence is not a bug.

Also, be aware that some of the excellent coders around here may find the following to be an annoying situation:

"I'm using your software for free. I think there's a bug, and describe it in a vague way. How fast will you fix it for me?"

This is a development forum. Because these folks are busy rewriting and testing, it's important to provide them with as much specific information as possible. So far, you haven't provided any details to suggest that there actually is a bug (as opposed to a user error). Why don't you post your logfiles? Also, why not take a second to check which version of avisynth and virtualdub and/or virtualdubmod you have installed on your system. Which codec are you trying to use? Etc. See which version of everything you're running, and post your scripts and logfiles.

Again, because this is a development forum, it is even more important for you to do this, as in the past couple of weeks Len0x has released either one or two 'downgraded' versions. For instance, it's possible your problem might be an artefact of using half newer and half older files; for instance, if you've recently installed a newer 'downgraded' installer on top of an older, 'newer' one. Who knows? You'll probably actually get help if you provide more info, I bet.:cool:

[hakko504]

Originally posted by colordog
GKnot is supposed to use mpeg2dec3, which is why it's selected as default upon installation. This MPEGsource plugin allows GKnot and its program suite to process in YV12 colorspace. Its presence is not a bug.

Also, be aware that some of the excellent coders around here may find the following to be an annoying situation:

"I'm using your software for free. I think there's a bug, and describe it in a vague way. How fast will you fix it for me?"

This is a development forum. Because these folks are busy rewriting and testing, it's important to provide them with as much specific information as possible. So far, you haven't provided any details to suggest that there actually is a bug (as opposed to a user error). Why don't you post your logfiles? Also, why not take a second to check which version of avisynth and virtualdub and/or virtualdubmod you have installed on your system. Which codec are you trying to use? Etc. See which version of everything you're running, and post your scripts and logfiles.

Again, because this is a development forum, it is even more important for you to do this, as in the past couple of weeks Len0x has released either one or two 'downgraded' versions. For instance, it's possible your problem might be an artefact of using half newer and half older files; for instance, if you've recently installed a newer 'downgraded' installer on top of an older, 'newer' one. Who knows? You'll probably actually get help if you provide more info, I bet.:cool: Well spoken, colordog.

Though slightly off topic I think I'll remind everybody about three good posts about good behaviour at this forum: Open message about free pies by DDogg (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7770) This post is requred reading for anyone who think they have a problem with a free software. How to post a question by markrb (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19566) How to write a coherent and readable message also by DDogg (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51632)

[tekman8]

Hi colordog,

I solved the problem myself. I'm sorry I didn't provide enough little details to suit you. I assumed you knew more about gknot than I did--I know very little. I provided you with the error message and the movie. The little knowledge I possessed allowed me to examine that data and work backwards from there. A person with your self-proclaimed expertise should have recognised the problem and provided me with insight. Instead, your solution is to berate the messenger. I suggest you examine forensically your software, your method of presentation of upgrades and downgrades, and your written communication skills. Yes, your software is free, but that doesn't excuse your bad manners. However, if you can only chew on the messenger to feel important, then chew away.

THANK YOU! :mad:

[len0x]

NO personal msg in the forum plz (PM should be enough)!

@tekman8

Instead of accusing a person who is not involved in development of GK at all (just regular user as you. Did you get the idea that he was speaking for all developers ???) you should have provided info on what's wrong and how you solved your problem, so that other can benefit from your experience...

[pixolex]

why the changelog is not updated to the last version :(

[AmigaFuture]

@len0x

Originally posted by len0x
but it wasn't suppose to be released anyway...

0.28.2 will solve the problems...

Hi. It seems it's broken with 0.28.2 also. By the way great work with GK, I do see a lot of possitive changes. :)

The problems I've noticed while using 0.28.2 are:

1) It's not muxing my 2nd ac3.
2) I set a 3 CD split, &, haha, I got 38 parts. The 1st 3 being normal (without the 2nd ac3 though) & 144,688 for the rest of the parts. I have NO idea what happened.

[mazzo]

I have until just recently used Divx5.0x, but switched to Xvid after reading about it.

My experience in GKnot is that it doesn't encode the credits part when I choose Xvid encoding.

Is it something I do wrong, or is it a bug?

[len0x]

Originally posted by AmigaFuture

1) It's not muxing my 2nd ac3.


Hmm... that's odd. plz post your log file.

*EDIT* I can confirm that in my test it's working perfectly
(2xAC3)

Originally posted by AmigaFuture

2) I set a 3 CD split, &, haha, I got 38 parts. The 1st 3 being normal (without the 2nd ac3 though) & 144,688 for the rest of the parts. I have NO idea what happened.

Log file will definitely help here as well. But I suspect that it's still 2Gb problem (since all 2CD rips I've done don't have any problems) - I haven't closely looked at what was changed there by aquaplanning while I was away...

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
My experience in GKnot is that it doesn't encode the credits part when I choose Xvid encoding.


Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.

[bond]

what is if i want to use different .avs scripts for the movie and the credits with xvid?

[mtc]

Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.
It is now ;) I've been looking for stuff to add to the FAQs, thanks :)

[mazzo]

Should be FAQ: If you set the credits on video window, then when using XviD these settings automatically propagated to the codec (which has support for credits internally). Separate credits encoding not required.[/

Maybe it should be faq, but this is exactly what i did, and it didn't work. The file was encoded with no credits tail.

[len0x]

Originally posted by mazzo
The file was encoded with no credits tail.

how do you know ?
(did you check properties of XviD codec on encoder window to see if credits values hasve been set ?)

P.S. I hope you didn't select movie only on save AVS window, did you ?