ffdshow development

[HarryM]

Originally posted by dTb
I'm using WinXP with the 23/5/03 alpha, I'm unsure what you mean by VMR9.


VMR9 = Video Mixing Renderer 9 (DirectX 9)

[Asmodian]

I am using WinXP with VMR9.

[dTb]

Yep using DirectX 9.0, maybe I should update to 9.0b.

I just noticed on the release notes for ffdshow-20030424 that post-processing was updated, it's possible the problem originates there. When I get the chance I'll try that and some previous alpha's to try and see if that's the case.

[Soulhunter]

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ffdshow crash with "ConverToRGB32()" command in AviSynth-tab
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Addition to my above shown post:

ffdshow v.2003.04.24 does not crash at playback, but the video is shown "wrong" (vertical green and pink lines in the pic) :confused:

Thats all for now...

Bye

[MarkCoolio]

Has someone already tried the 2003.07.11 release and seen if bugs are solved? I am currently downloading it and will test it soon too...

[sekxx]

escuse me Mark, but where did U find this release, i don't see it on sourceforge

[MarkCoolio]

Drop me a mail... I can send it to you then. Sorry have no download link. I received it by icq...

By the way: it includes ffdshow audio decoder part :)

[Ghim]

I hope there will soon be a public release...
I really want to try the new version with bugfixes and new functions (audio decoder) ...

[MarkCoolio]

Hi athos,

i see you online on this board right now.

Just a question: is the ffdshow version I have public? If not, I won't share it of course. Don't know where my mate had it from. But I searched for it today on official sites and did not find it there.

Please let me know. Thanks...

[athos]

the 20030711 release is not official, but you can spread it no problem. i compiled it, its just that milan asked me not to put it up on sourceforge. but anyone can download the source off the cvs on sf and compile it themselves, so its not like theres an NDA or anything ;) Actually, you might want to take a look in http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/

[Ghim]

I've seen some anoying PP that were in 20030523 fixed... great work !! (what's what I wanted the most...)

If I see some bugs (and that's the case) in 20030711 release, should I report them even if the release is not official and even if it's 1 month old ??

[BoNz1]

Under IDCT there is a new routine called Skal's IDCT. Not to sure exactly whether it is Walken or Simple or something else but I found on his site this http://skal.planet-d.net/coding/mp4.html at the bottom in the changelog:

02/03: v0.06: . Big decoder speed-up (MMX/SSE) with a new self-contained Sparse IDCT and an experimental IDCT-Add and IDCT-Put. Yeah! I broke the silly 1500 fps limit :). No real impact yet on the encoder.
02/03: v0.05: . Sparse IDCT (MMX/SSE) was not rounded correctly => "greenish" color bleeding was *very* visible. + removed some unnecessary code: Arithmetic coding, LZW codec, Symbol entropy, Gif-PCX-Tga I/O... I'll put it back if needed later. I'm now done with the quantization bugs I was mad about. pfeeewww... :) Next step is to fix the encoder!

So I guess it is different than both (or maybe it is made more for simple) :D anyhow it looks much better than the XVID IDCT in ffdshow IMO when decoding Walken content but still has a couple problems. Maybe if it was made specifically to decode Walken it would be perfect.

[Animaniac]

Is the "Autoselect" for the IDCT selecting the best/correct IDCT for Walken XviD content? Skal? Is it selecting simple for non-Walken?

[CruNcher]

@ athos
what for external includes are needed to build it ?

btw seemes their is a bug in this build thats causeing film (24 fps) content to be wrongly played, info shows 24.39 fps and its not fluid so use this build carefully

[athos]

Originally posted by Ghim
If I see some bugs (and that's the case) in 20030711 release, should I report them even if the release is not official and even if it's 1 month old ??
I guess it wont hurt, feedback is good.

[Ghim]

Here's a bug that wasn't here in 23/05/2003 build. I compiled the latest CVS source and it's still there... :

When vertical resolution isn't divisible by 8, and if Chroma Deblock (H) is enabled, ffdshow seems to crash...

[Animaniac]

Originally posted by Ghim
Here's a bug that wasn't here in 23/05/2003 build. I compiled the latest CVS source and it's still there... :

When vertical resolution isn't divisible by 8, and if Chroma Deblock (H) is enabled, ffdshow seems to crash...

I have a similar problem. ffdshow (newer than 23052003) crashes with dev-api-4 (720x426) material when Nic's PP active.

[oddball]

Has anyone figured out how to get AutoCrop to work with ffdshow correctly? All I get is a cropped video that is set within a 4/3 overlay. It does not crop the overlay for some reason so when outputting to a TV it shows the black bars still (But has cropped top and bottom only it's not zoomed it in the overlay if you get my meaning).

It's cropping but not actually CROPPING to the playback window.

[athos]

For those who dare, you might want to take a new look in http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/
...

[Ghim]

I tried 16/08/2003 build and 11/07/2003 and I got some bugs with both versions...
I sometimes seems to have a conflict problem with ffdshow audio decoder and Ms MPEG3 Decoder (I desactivated every audio decoding in ffdshow audio decoder). The video plays very choppy (with ZP at least).

I don't know how ffdshow audio decoder interract in this problem but it does... If I just manually unregister ffdshow audio decoder (with ZP filter manager), I got no more problem but no more sound too... I need to restart my computer to get back sound and I don't have the problem anymore... This is a proof ffdshow audio decoder is playing a role in this problem.

How is it that ffdshow audio decoder seems to interract in my audio graph when I desactivated every audio decoder in ffdshow config ??

[Ghim]

I'd like at least an option in the installer to disable the audio decoder installation (registering)...
This way, I won't have the problem I mentioned in my precedent post anymore...

[Animaniac]

Originally posted by Animaniac
I have a similar problem. ffdshow (newer than 23052003) crashes with dev-api-4 (720x426) material when Nic's PP active.

Still remains in 16082003. :(

The Audio Decoder still doesn't work after seeking (since 11072003).

[Gaia]

The Audio Decoder still doesn't work after seeking (since 11072003).

It works fine after seeking in my machine but i am using Win98SE...

I sometimes seems to have a conflict problem with ffdshow audio decoder and Ms MPEG3 Decoder (I desactivated every audio decoding in ffdshow audio decoder). The video plays very choppy (with ZP at least).

I didn't see anything like this in my short test with several players including ZoomPlayer. It can ofcource happend randomly i only tried it with few files.

[Ghim]

I forgot to tell... I'm using WinXP SP1.

[oddball]

New Athos builds cause jerky playback (Was hard to spot at first). It judders every half second especially on pans and stuff moving sideways slowly. This was happening when playing back a 25FPS XviD with AC3 sound (Even though it was disabled in ffdshow audio properties and AC3filter was handling it).

Using last official alpha the jerk is not there. It's not an audio interleave problem as that is set to 64ms (Which always works for me).

[Owen]

I have big problems with audio sync with 11072003 and DVD playback in Zoom Player using WinDVD 5 decoders. Even if no ffdshow filters are in use.
Playback of Xvid and Divx files is perfect.

Regards,

Owen

[kastro68]

Originally posted by oddball
New Athos builds cause jerky playback (Was hard to spot at first). It judders every half second especially on pans and stuff moving sideways slowly. This was happening when playing back a 25FPS XviD with AC3 sound (Even though it was disabled in ffdshow audio properties and AC3filter was handling it).

Using last official alpha the jerk is not there. It's not an audio interleave problem as that is set to 64ms (Which always works for me).


I seem to be experiencing a similar problem, but with *.asf music video files downloaded off the net. In my case, ffdshow reports the files as MP43 and wmv1 in the info tab. For a particular clip it plays smoothly with MPC up to 30 seconds, then after that same spot it starts lagging from 30 secs till the end of the clip. It consistently starts the lagging at the same spot each time. It only lags when I use Gabest's Media player classic 6459 with athos's most recently compiled ffdshow (at the time of this message)

Video playback works smoothly with windows media player 8 and 6.4.
I don't seem to be having any trouble with any other file type thus far.

I had to switch back to ffdshow-20030523.exe since it works smoothly with MPC. I'm not sure if it is an ffdshow issue or an MPC issue.

[Soulhunter]

Nice Work... :D

Here are some "bugs" I found in the ffdshow 2003.08.16


Video Filter:

Avisynth command ConvertToRGB32() does work now... :D
But changeing to Fullscreenmode does deaktivate it I think... Also when cahngeing back from Fullscreen to normal, it still deactivated. Only restarting the Player works... :(

Warpsharp (aWarpSharp) crashes the player... But ffdshow original warpsharp not!
When I change from original to aWarpSharp while playback, the scrren is full of green horizontal lines... :confused:

MJPEG decoding (Morgan_Multimedia_M-JPEG_V2_Codec) produces a small black boarder at the right side of the screen...

When I play a file, and DragDrop a second while playing, the player crashes...


Audio Filter:

WindowsMedia-Audio8 doesnt play... :confused:


Mixer:

Mono output plays the sound... Uhm... very-fast... :D

3/0 - 3 front plays it to slow...

2/1, 3/1, 2/2 quadro, 3/2, 2/0+SW, 3/0+SW, 2/1+SW, 3/1+SW, 2/2+SW and 3/2+SW doesnt play anything... !?!

But 2/0, 1/0+SW, DolbySurround-ProLogic and Dolby ProLogicII works fine... :)

But Dolby ProLogicII causes DeSync when I play Audio+Video...


Winamp PlugIns are working generally... My favorite is the 4Front Headphones plugin... (FU#*KN GREAT :D)

But some Winamp plugins (exspecialy ones with an config. GUI) cause a "hanging" of the player... (endless loading of the config. GUI)



I used different Audio & Video Files for testing (XviD/DivX5/MP3/MP2 etc.)

System stuff: WinME, DX9b, Detonator40.7x Driver

Thats all so far...

Bye

[Soulhunter]

SOME NEW BUGS I FOUND (ffdshow-2003-08-16)

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ffdshow audio decoder + activated winamp plugin, shows an error in KERNEL32.DLL when you exit the player... (tested with different plugins)

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Video playback (MPEG with different decoders) + audio playback (MP2/MPA with ffdshow decoder) the palyer shows an error message when a winamp-plugin is activated, and you exit the player or you try to skip...

This is the ERROR message:

MPLAYER2 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul <Unbekannt> bei c16e:018251df.
Register:
EAX=0056eae4 CS=018f EIP=018251df EFLGS=00010246
EBX=0056eae4 SS=0197 ESP=0053002c EBP=0053004c
ECX=005300d0 DS=0197 ESI=8195090c FS=2247
EDX=bff6682d ES=0197 EDI=005300f8 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:

Stapelwerte:
bff66821 005300f8 0056eae4 00530114 005300d0 00530204 bff6682d 0056eae4 005300e0 bff7845a 005300f8 0056eae4 00530114 005300d0 018251df 005302bc

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Video playback (MPEG with different decoders) + audio playback (MP2/MPA with ffdshow decoder) the palyer shows an blue-error-screen when a winamp-plugin is activated, and you try to skip...

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I do some more tests tomorow...

Bye

[IvS]

ever thought those may be WINAMP PLUGIN bugs?

[slxslxslx]

Where can I download the newest version?I can not find the ffdshow-2003-08-16 in sourceforge

[Assault]

If you've read this thread carefully you would have found http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/ for downloading the latest ffvfw and ffdshow builds.

Assault

[slxslxslx]

my dns Server has something wrong. I can not get the true ip of the http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/.so I ask the question. Now I get the true IP of it. no problem now.thank you.

[Soulhunter]

@IvS: Ever thought those may be WINAMP PLUGIN bugs?

No, I dont think so... Because in Winamp they work without any errors (for long time now...) So I think its a problem in ffdshow... !?!



But I found some new bugs:
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Cropping produces a green boarder around the image and gives an error message when closing the player (test was DivX/Xvid video different crop values)

Error message was:

MPLAYER2 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul KERNEL32.DLL bei 018f:bff8e1ad.
Register:
EAX=c002fa54 CS=018f EIP=bff8e1ad EFLGS=00010212
EBX=0056ff68 SS=0197 ESP=0052fd8c EBP=00530028
ECX=00000000 DS=0197 ESI=00000000 FS=1287
EDX=bff6682d ES=0197 EDI=bff69138 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
53 8b 15 f4 bc fb bf 56 89 4d e4 57 89 4d dc 89

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Zoom function produces a green boarder around the image...(test was DivX/Xvid video different zoom values)

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Bye

[aydc]

I downloaded the latest version, (200308xx) and I'm dismayed to see that the mplayer postprocessing that was broken in 200305xx is still broken. I prefer mplayer pp to nic's pp since it's simply better.

As a result of this, I'm not using ffdshow anymore. Latest beta DivX decoders have much better pp.

Are there no plans to implement mplayer postprocessing again?

[Gaia]

No, I dont think so... Because in Winamp they work without any errors (for long time now...) So I think its a problem in ffdshow... !?!

So what? Did Milan say all Winamp plugins work with ffdshow?

I know quite a few Winamp plugins that works with Winamp but not with any other programs that should support Winamp plugins...

[Soulhunter]

@Gaia "So what? Did Milan say all Winamp plugins work with ffdshow?"

Uhm...? No, but as this option is included in ffdshows audiofilter I thought it should ;)

If the option to use Winamp2 plugins is integrted... I think he wants that it works with all (or most) winamp plugins... So I wrote about the errors/bugs/problems I got...

Was this wrong...? :(

Bye

[PS: I got also lot of errors when useing WA2-plugins in bsplayer...]

[Gaia]

No no nothing wrong with reporting "bugs". I am just not so sure if they really are bugs like IvS said...

[Soulhunter]

@Gaia
I was also not "really" sure... But I thought its better to post this than not... The best way would be to let milan decide if its a real bug ;)

Bye

[athos]

It's good that you are posting bugs, but please remember that all builds since 2003-05-23 or whatever the latest one on SF, are unofficial. Milan has asked me not to put anymore on sf for a while, so i just provide them here for those who are curious.
After all, anyone can download the source off the cvs and compile for themselves.

[midiboy]

Hi !

I hope this is the right place for posting a bug in ffdshow. I have tried every recent ffdshow build, even the "silent" builds from July and August of this year. The latest build that works correctly is the build from 24-04-2003. The 23-05-2003 build has the bug already.

I am running a dual screen configuration on a Radeon 9000 with Catalyst 3.6 drivers and Zoom player 3.1/3.2 beta. (overlay mixer renderer, no ffdshow processing settings activated)

With the 24.04.2003 build, playback of Divx/Xvid files in Zoom player works fine on both screens.

With the 23.05.2003 build and all silent builds since, the same files will freeze Zoom player right after start on my second screen. It still works fine on the first screen but this does not help me.

I am sorry if this is old news already and I hope newer ffdshow builds will correct this bug.

Thanks,
Alex

[Danzel]

What Windows are you using?
Because it seems that Windows 9x (95/98/ME) doesnt work with the more recent releases (I know my windows ME crashes).

Danzel.

[HarryM]

Originally posted by midiboy
Hi !

I hope this is the right place for posting a bug in ffdshow. I have tried every recent ffdshow build, even the "silent" builds from July and August of this year. The latest build that works correctly is the build from 24-04-2003. The 23-05-2003 build has the bug already.

I am running a dual screen configuration on a Radeon 9000 with Catalyst 3.6 drivers and Zoom player 3.1/3.2 beta. (overlay mixer renderer, no ffdshow processing settings activated)

With the 24.04.2003 build, playback of Divx/Xvid files in Zoom player works fine on both screens.

With the 23.05.2003 build and all silent builds since, the same files will freeze Zoom player right after start on my second screen. It still works fine on the first screen but this does not help me.

I am sorry if this is old news already and I hope newer ffdshow builds will correct this bug.

Thanks,
Alex


You must open media file WITHIN ZoomPlayer (I have disable automatic playing after open too, you don't use DCP-SP filter too!).

Click on media file, e.g. in Windows Explorer, causes freeze ZP during opening(?).


Most latest ffdshow builds is generally very problematic on Win9x. I don't know what for... :( But on WinXP no problem. Do anyone testing on Win9x?

Build 24042003 is stable for Win98SE, of course.

[midiboy]

What Windows are you using?

Hi Harry, Danzel,

I am using Windows XP of course, SR1 and all 60 patches installed that came out after SR1.

Ah ... yes, I double click on the media files in explorer, thereby starting Zoom player. I always work that way. Works fine with the earlier April build.

Thanks,
Alex

[Soulhunter]

Hmm...:(

Some news ???

Bye

[oddball]

Project seems a bit dead yup :)

[easyfab]

Originally posted by oddball
Project seems a bit dead yup :)

Go see the CVS on sourceforge and you'll see that milan work hard on it. The sources files changes very often(last changes 19 hours).
Perhaps the news functions are not stable enough for a public release.

[athos]

i checked the cvs yesterday, and it seems it does not compile currently, due to some work that milan is doing, so ill wait for that to be finished before i compile again.

Edit: new build is up @ http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/
Please note: this is an unofficial build, milan has not authorized it.

[S_O]

I tested the newest build and all the new codecs in there, with this results:
Sorenson Video 3, Cinepak, MS Video 1 and Real Video 1 are working perfectly.

With Sorenson Video 1/2 (SVQ1, Sorenson 2 is Sorenson 1 compatible and uses the same FourCC), Indeo 3.2 and sometimes MJPEG the colors are wrong (blue and yellow seem to be exchanged).

Vp3 and WMV 8 doesn´t work correctly, they´re artifacted (vp3 only sometimes, WMV 8 all the time).

I could test Asus Video 1/2, ATI VCR1 (have only VCR2 files), MS RLE and CYUV.

[Soulhunter]

THX athos !!! :D