What is ReAuthorist?

[aquabubble]

Some of you might be thinking what this ReAuthorist tool is that's being talked about. Well, here I am to fill you in on a few details.

Well, ReAuthorist is the new name for doItFaster4Me and is designed to take the effort out of CCE/Scenarist projects. It combines the functionality of several tools that are currently needed into one neat package, and adds a whole raft of new features that are available nowhere else. It's come on a very long way since the early alpha that was released in January. It still has some more to go before I am ready to release it, but the basic functionality is now there.

Following a rip from DoItFast4U, ReAuthorist performs all of the manual steps that you'd normally undertake to put all the pieces back together again. Not only this, but the first public release will see an interactive interface to let you adjust the amount of compression to use on your different VTSs, showing you in real time what your new DVD size will be - kiss goodbye to your bitrate heartaches! In addition, it will also let you choose which audio and subpicture streams to keep, tracking your new DVD size as it goes.

This first public release will be able to be used with a great many titles, but restricted to PGC-rips only. However, that should be the only major initial restriction. With enough positive feedback I will move on to vobid and cellid ripped projects.

For more information for where I am up to, please feel free to look at my changelog.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Hy aquabubble.


This first public release will be able to be used with a great many titles, but restricted to PGC-rips only.

Release Date? :)

I´ve read about two weeks, that´s true?

[aquabubble]

I hope so, but as ever it depends on workload/free time. I'm putting in virtually every free minute I can spare to develop it though. Keep your eyes open in this forum for updates.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Hy aquabubble.

I´m very interested with your tool and how it works.

I can make Audio,subtitle, *.avs with DIF4U.

So how do you use these to get ready in Scenarist?

I mean, the audio have a small delay.
Do you fix that delay?

In your changelog is something to read about ecl for CCE.
Do you use EClCCE for support newer versions of CCE?

Can ReAuthorist handle with Button over Video like Matrix "follow the rabbit"?

How do you handle these all together to import in Scenarist?
Do you use "new from script" for import everything?

BTW: if you need more beta-tester for your tool, let me know. ;)

[aquabubble]

Hi fortyfour,

It analyses all of the demuxed files, AC3, DTS, D2V/M2V etc to identify their attributes, such as duration, bitrate and number of channels - basically, all of the information that Scenarist needs to know about your different assets. If there is any information missing (as in the case of missing audio streams), then it fills in the blanks.

Audio delays should, for the most part, be handled automatically by Scenarist so no alteration of the AC3 is needed. However, I am aware of a problem with some PAL titles, but until a proper workaround can be found I will not implement this into ReAuthorist. Personally, I think there may be a bug in DVD2AVI/mpeg2dec that is causing some frames to go missing. You see if everything worked as expected, no alteration of any of the demuxed files should be needed.

At the moment my ECL only supports version 2.5 of CCE. If someone could give me an example of an ECL from a later version then I will look into implementing this. As an alternative - and this may be the preferred way of doing things - the soon to be released version of ReAuthorist will also create a file compatible with DoCCE4U.

ReAuthorist will recreate your subpicture streams for things like button over video, but in order to get this working IFOUpdate has to do its job properly.

Yes, the file generated by ReAuthorist is a SCP script file so it is imported by using the "New from script" feature - thanks Sonic! :)

If you would like to help beta test, pm me your email address and I'll include you on the distribution list.

[Mikel]

To my knowledge, there is no fully working trial version of CCE above 2.5 available. That's why most people are still sticking to that old version. All versions 2.6 and above have no saving code included.


To automate things, ecl files are really neat. That's the only reason I still use version 2.5. I use an advanced editor (like UltraEdit) to change all the settings i need in the batch-file. This saves quite some time.

Aquabubble: I am really looking forward for your tool. I was thinking about coding something like this myself, but not in C.

Anyway I hope you can release your first beta soon.

Cheers

Mikel

[fourtyfour]

servus...

PM is out.

2.64 Versions works very well.

For 2.66 and 2.67 there is a solution called EclCCE.

It works also very well.

Maybe we can find a way to include EclCCE to import Ecl in CCE.

But first I have to test the beta :D

[Mikel]

ECLCEE, is that some kind of tool? Never heard of before.

What is PM?

Thanks for your help

Cheers

Mikel

[fourtyfour]

servus...

PM= private message (for aquabubble)

For EclCCE use the search button in this forum.

[Mikel]

Thanks for your help regarding ELCCee. I just downloaded it and it was just what i was looking for.

Great

Cheers

Mikel

[mikeathome]

aquabubble, fourtyfour you got PN.
I would like to share CCESP 2.66 automation and missing frames correction with you...

mike

[Shamanis]

Aquabubble,

As per subject, I've also noticed this. Adding up all the frames in a multi-pgc title and then comparing to the number of frames in CCE seems to drop about 15 or so. This causes the video to be about 1 seccond shorter, and leads to duration mismatch in IFOupdate. No serious problem as long as there wasn't a chapter point on that end (which sometimes there is). I'm going to try and manually add those 15 (or whatever) frames to CCE ECL file and see if it encodes correctly, or dumps the CCE Error message into tresulting MPV file.

EDIT: Just tried a file that had dropped 4 frames. Added the 4 frames to the ECL and can't see any error message etc. anyone else wanna try and confirm?

[aquabubble]

shamanis: it's a really annoying problem! I'm not sure that adding frames to the ECL is the way to avoid it, since the mpeg2dec plugin reads the d2v file to find out where the frames are in the m2v. I know from my testing that adding a few frames does not result in error, but adding say 100, does. Also, my tests happened to be with video clips that had frames of black at the end, so couldn't tell whether any "real" frames were being added - what did your test reveal?

Besides, my belief is that frames may be being lost from the beginning as well as the end (and possibly mid-way through as well).

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by Shamanis
Aquabubble,

As per subject, I've also noticed this. Adding up all the frames in a multi-pgc title and then comparing to the number of frames in CCE seems to drop about 15 or so. This causes the video to be about 1 seccond shorter, and leads to duration mismatch in IFOupdate. No serious problem as long as there wasn't a chapter point on that end (which sometimes there is). I'm going to try and manually add those 15 (or whatever) frames to CCE ECL file and see if it encodes correctly, or dumps the CCE Error message into tresulting MPV file.

EDIT: Just tried a file that had dropped 4 frames. Added the 4 frames to the ECL and can't see any error message etc. anyone else wanna try and confirm?

Hi,

you need to patch (add the frames in the .d2v) Add a '2' for every missed frame. Don't forget the '9' at the end. I automated this process incl. the count of the missed frame. Mail me, I'll send you the solution.

mike

[hakko504]

Originally posted by aquabubble
shamanis: it's a really annoying problem! I'm not sure that adding frames to the ECL is the way to avoid it, since the mpeg2dec plugin reads the d2v file to find out where the frames are in the m2v. I know from my testing that adding a few frames does not result in error, but adding say 100, does. Also, my tests happened to be with video clips that had frames of black at the end, so couldn't tell whether any "real" frames were being added - what did your test reveal?

Besides, my belief is that frames may be being lost from the beginning as well as the end (and possibly mid-way through as well). Frames are indeed lost from the beginning if the vob doesn't start with an I-frame.
Unless you have an faulty stream, frames should not be lost in the middle.
And as have been pointed out, sometimes frames are lost from the end. I'm not sure why, but I have a feeling it might be that the last frames are marked as dropped in order to close a GOP, and that DVD2AVI doesn't recognize this, but simply skips those frames when it creates the .d2v, making it a little shorter than it should be.

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by hakko504
Frames are indeed lost from the beginning if the vob doesn't start with an I-frame.
Unless you have an faulty stream, frames should not be lost in the middle.
And as have been pointed out, sometimes frames are lost from the end. I'm not sure why, but I have a feeling it might be that the last frames are marked as dropped in order to close a GOP, and that DVD2AVI doesn't recognize this, but simply skips those frames when it creates the .d2v, making it a little shorter than it should be.

Hi,

this matches exactly my investigations. I did an indeep framecount at the beginning at the end of a vob (choosed a small from a split by VobID) and found, that in 99% of the cases when you split at VobID you'll loose frames (1-5) at the end. Indeed, this might be due to 'artificial' closed GOPs which are necessary at VobID/CellID border. Since a VobID needs to start with an I-Frame I found this not to be an issue.

mike

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by hakko504
Frames are indeed lost from the beginning if the vob doesn't start with an I-frame.

Agreed. In what circumstances would a VOB not begin with an I-frame? Remember that we are dealing with demuxed M2Vs (one big one normally), not that it should make any difference.


And as have been pointed out, sometimes frames are lost from the end. I'm not sure why, but I have a feeling it might be that the last frames are marked as dropped in order to close a GOP, and that DVD2AVI doesn't recognize this, but simply skips those frames when it creates the .d2v, making it a little shorter than it should be.

Interesting... what do you mean by "marked as dropped"? I wish I had the time to delve deep into DVD2AVI to look into correcting this!

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by mikeathome
you need to patch (add the frames in the .d2v) Add a '2' for every missed frame. Don't forget the '9' at the end. I automated this process incl. the count of the missed frame. Mail me, I'll send you the solution.

Hi mikeathome,

I had a look at the solution you sent me - thanks for that, it looks interesting. However, one thing that I find most intriguing in all of this is that the virtualdubmod for mpeg2 is based on DVD2AVI, yet it gets the frame count right! Now if we can work out what it's doing differently...

[hakko504]

Originally posted by aquabubble
Interesting... what do you mean by "marked as dropped"? I wish I had the time to delve deep into DVD2AVI to look into correcting this! Instead of encoding a black frame, It is possible to set frametype to Z, instead of IPB. This is equivalent to a dropped frame - it's a frame of size Zero.

And if you use FAT(32) there is a lot of reasons why a vob wouldn't start with an I-frame. ;) But you are right - when dealing with vobs there is very few occasions where the vob won't start with an I-frame. I can't really think of any, as long as all cuts are made at cell boundaries.
Some versions of DVD2AVI can handle transportstreams as well, and those almost never start with an I-frame, but that's a different thing.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by hakko504
Instead of encoding a black frame, It is possible to set frametype to Z, instead of IPB. This is equivalent to a dropped frame - it's a frame of size Zero.

Just been looking into this to see if it would be possible to find out where/how many dropped frames there would be. According to my documentation (dating back to 1995), the picture_coding_type is a three bit value:

000 - forbidden
001 - intra-coded (I)
010 - predictive-coded (P)
011 - bidirectionally-predictive-coded (B)
100 - shall not be used (dc intra-coded (D) in ISO/IEC11172-2)
101 - reserved
110 - reserved
111 - reserved

Hmmm... which one would be Z?

(we are seriously off-topic here - should we take this to the DVD2AVI forum?)

[Eyes`Only]

Everyone,

We're constantly on the lookout for a viable solution to add to our apps to fix the vobid demux. I'm also aware that the subtitle vobid demux doesn't work right and I'm working on resolving that too.

In addition, I've talked with Light_UK, to see if the problem can be resolved by having him make DVD Decrypter write the .m2vs differently. If anyone has suggestions on how he could do this, he's ready to listen. We realize this is a big issue and as soon as a viable solution can be found it will be implemented. Personally, I'm looking at fixing it from the DVDDEC side, if possible, since that seems to be where the problem stems from.

[hakko504]

@aquabubble

I've spent the evening reading the DVD2AVI code, trying to find exactly what happens at the end of a file but I haven't been able to draw any certain conclusions - except one: if you don't have a closed gop at the end of a vobID this could lead to the last two B-frames ending up in the next .m2v! There are some mystic flags being parsed also, but I'm not sure what all of them does, and if that could be interpreted as bad frames.

And feel free to move (or copy) this thread to the DVD2AVI forum. I also think we should ask Belgabor if he knows anything about this as VirtualDubMod does deliver those last missing frames.

[digitalvideo]

Hello aquablue,


Can i have acces to your beta of ReAuthorist ?

thank's

digitalvideo@ifrance.com

[d4g]

Hi could i have access to reauthorist to give it a go and see how it works


secondly have you found a way to do vobid yet.especially when u have to enter chapters manully for those titles..

other question id like to ask why do u got through the cce method in your program when docce does al of that....doesnt your program just look at all the assets and implements them to a scenarist script for importing.....

if im wrong please let me know....


Denis

d4g@iprimus.com.au

[aquabubble]

Hi d4g,

Sorry for taking so long to respond - I've been busy working on the next beta. Sure, I'll include you on the distribution list. Things are taking a major leap forward with this release, so I'd prefer you to have this next version rather than the current one - it will only be a wait of a few days. I hope you don't mind.

As for vobid projects, well yes, I have this planned out in my head, but I want to get the PGC rip functionality 100% first. We'll see how this goes.

ReAuthorist started development before DoCCE4U was available, hence it's own ECL files. However, very soon (when DoCCE4U does everything that ReAuthorist does with the ECL), ReAuthorist will produce a file compatible with DoCCE4U as well.

ReAuthorist is intended to be an interactive tool for choosing which assets you want to keep for your DVD and sizing the different components to make it fit on a DVD-R. Once you have decided what to keep, ReAuthorist will generate a task list for encoding and a Scenarist script to go with it. In other words, the process flow is:

DoItFast4U--->ReAuthorist--->DoCCE4U
|
|
V
Scenarist--->IfoUpdate

[Fmazzanti]

Hi,
could I have access to this next-to-come beta release of reauthorist when it is ready? I would like to take a look at it, just to see how it works.
Thanks...
mazzanti@salleurl.edu

[brashquido]

This one sounds too good to be true. I know this is the obvious questino, but I'll ask anyway :rolleyes:. Is there any ETA on the public release yet? And how much will it cost?

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by brashquido
This one sounds too good to be true. I know this is the obvious questino, but I'll ask anyway :rolleyes:. Is there any ETA on the public release yet? And how much will it cost?

ReAuthorist is going to be free I believe, but I am sure Aquabubble would be extremely happy to take donations. :)

[brashquido]

Well if it's as good as it sounds, I'll be happy to support Aquabubble with a donation :)

[klona]

Well, Quite a nice tool you design.

I would really be pleased to be able to try it as I am a CCE/Scenarist/ifoupdate addict from the begining, loving all these great automating tools which saves me lots of time.

You told about looking for CCE script from version 2.6x. Can send you some if you need.

[[Hawkeye]]

Hi aquabubble

When do you think ReAuthorist is going gold?

Sounds like at great prg.

Best Regards

Hawkeye

[AndyP]

Hi

I would be grateful if I could have a copy of the new beta also.

Andy [at] somewhere-out-there.freeserve.co.uk

Thanks,
Andy

[squancey]

Hi Aquabubble,

I've been using DoItFast4U and DoCCE4U for a while now and been very impressed with the results, any chance of getting my hands on the latest beta of Reauthorist to complete the puzzle.

e-mail detail in profile

cheers

squancey

[aquabubble]

Thanks to all those that wanted to be part of the beta test team. Apologies for the delay in getting back to you all, but as you can imagine I have been a very busy man! All those that have recently expressed an interest are now on the list and should have details of the latest beta, version 0.5.0.4. This is an interim beta before the release candidate which is now due very soon. Keep 'em peeled! :)

[brashquido]

Oh man, I can't wait :D

[nlphillips]

I've been watching this thread for a long time and I can't wait to give Re-Authorist a go. Any chance of adding yet another poor, mis-guided soul onto the beta list?

Thankyou :)

[influenza]

You can add me to the list too. Since I've been testing all day on our own software this would be a nice distraction..........

influenza@influenza.speedlinq.nl

[Chevelle]

I also have been watching this thread alot. Is there any way I can get on the beta list also?

chevelle@hush.com

[brashquido]

I've got a question for you aquabubble, as good as ReAuthourist sounds, what audience do you think it'll be aimed at, or usable by.

[list=1]
I'm a one click wonder IC7, DVD95copy, or DVD2one user, don't care how it works, as long as it works.
:
Only used all in one products to date, and am looking for a bit more flexibility/quality, but don't have the time/wish to learn other methods in great detail. Need it simple with minimal user input, and minimal understanding of tools used in background to get the reauthoured DVD.
:
Tried all in one products and they don't give the results I want, am willing to learn new tools as long as they aren't user intensive.
:
DoItFast4U, DoCCE4U user, and have had limited success and have a good general knowledge of DVD structure
:
DVD enthusiast user with high level of success using several different tools, good understanding of DVD structure and the individual tools used in DVD authouring.
:
DVD Guru - totaly comfortable with DVD structure and all the individual tools used for authouring.
[/list=1]

[ShaneZ]

@brashquido:

Well, I have been using DIF4U, DoCCE4U, and ReAuthorist almost since their inception. Before I started using them I knew next to nothing about backing up DVD's. I have never used one of the multiple one-click solutions that are out there, using these tools it is getting close.

As long as you know the basics of DVD backup and you want added flexibility, I would suggest that you switch. The authors of all the programs are more than willing to accomodate features requested by users and are constantly issuing updates.

[taskman]

Do you have any idea yet of a general release date for reauthorist as I cant wait to get my hands on it.

[dssgorila]

how can i get a copy of ReAuthorist

[brashquido]

Originally posted by dssgorila
how can i get a copy of ReAuthorist

It's gotta be released first. Shouldn't be too far off now.

[VerbaL]

Hi,

Today I tried the ReAuthorist beta and I must say...this tool kicks ass. Thanks for this aquabubble!!!

Just one more question I have: I just started a new DVD backup and when checking the IFO files, I noticed that 2 VTSs reuse a vobid which is very short in time (only 1 second). According to Trilight's guide, I can rip that by PGC using DoItFast4U!

Can I also use ReAuthorist to author everything, or does it not support this at the moment?

Thanks,
verb

[dssgorila]

Does ReAuthorist automate the process of scenarist

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by dssgorila
Does ReAuthorist automate the process of scenarist

Yep, it automates your Scenarist project as long as it does not have to be ripped by VobID.

[dssgorila]

cool can someone send me the beta
dssgorila@yahoo.com

[brashquido]

Me too :)

brashquido@datafast.net.au

[aquabubble]

Well it's certainly good to see all this interest. If you guys that can't wait to get their hands on ReAuthorist can just bear a few days, I'm hoping to have the first public release out very very soon. Things are looking very good right now for me to be confident to let this loose to the pubic following a successful test of my last beta. It's taken me longer than expected, but that's because I have been enhancing its features to ensure a kick-ass launch product :D oh and getting rid of the bugs ;)

[d4g]

how is the vobid implementing going with the product the pgc way works like a charm


d4g

[dssgorila]

sounds good to me :)

[hendrix]

Cant wait til ReAuthorist comes out

Thanks to Aquabubble, Derrow, BBWolf, Eyes'Only, Lightning UK, Doom9 and everyone who help make dvd back-ups less "pain in the ass"
all i can do is donate.

hendrix

[jerschwab]

the soon to be released version of ReAuthorist will also create a file compatible with DoCCE4U.

How's it coming with the DoCCE4U integration? Are you confident enough in DC4U's ECL creation yet? I tried your program on the weekend for the first time and it looks just awesome! I couldn't believe it when I opened up Scenarist and saw everything in it's place!

Anyhow, keep up the good work! You'll see a donation from me as well sometime in the future!

[brashquido]

Everyone seems to have a copy of the ReAuthourist beta except for me :(

OK, I've had my cry now, I'll be good ;) . It's like waiting for Christmas when you're a little kid or something, I'm checking the forum every couple of hours to see if it's out yet.

*edit*

Oh yeah, If ReAuthourist does what it sounds like it will, I'll happily donate some $$ too :) . Although the stupid Aussie dollar isn't worth much anywhere else :(

[dssgorila]

im anxious too, Scenarist gives me a headache

[toolman2k]

please give us the tool! we all want it! finally good encoding on the whole disc...not just the movie...finally extras that are watchable.....:)

[hendrix]

im with toolman2k

HOOK US UP! :D

[MLS]

Sounds like a really sweet program, can't wait for public release :)

/MLS

[Fmazzanti]

hi,

first of all, I must say that this is my first contact with DoItFast4U
and Reauthorist, although I've been fighting with IfoEdit and CCe for a while now (will partial success I must admit). In any case, yesterday I installed all the components and started a project, but maybe I'm missing something 'cause I got stuck at an intermediate point due probably to incomplete knowledge about how these tools are to be used.

I want to backup a DVD which contains 2 PGCs in VTS_01, one for the main movie and another for a tiny blank stream. There are also other VTSs in the DVD, some of them contain things you can't remove (as trailers of movies that show up upon insertion of the DVD into the player and prior to the root menu) while others are extras that one can safely take away. I decided to get rid of these extras, so I launched DoItFast4U and ripped only those VTSs I wanted to keep. Furthermore, I did not deselect any audio or subtitle stream because, according to the Reauthorist README, one can do that in Reauthorist. Well I let DoItFast4U rip the thing and I must say it did it *perfectly* (I was certainly impressed about how good this tool is actually). once that was over, I closed DoItFast4U and started ReAuthorist. Pointed the working directory to the folder where the VTSs ripped by DoItFast4U were and... Rauthorist crashed :(
Repeated it and the same result.
Then I decided to point the working directory to the VTS01 folder created by DoItFast4U (which was located inside the RIP folder) and Reauthorist didn't crash, but it showed no subpicture streams to select (the selection box was empty), and I couldn't make it find them.

Now obvioously this means I'm doing something wrong, but don't know what. So maybe somebody can answer a few questions I have so that I can understand better what these programs do in order to trace down the problem.

1) These tools are meant to reauthor the DVD. But does this means that the resulting DVD is going to have *exactly* the same structure as the original one? I mean, if in the original DVD there are titles that play upon insertion on the standalone (as the many many trialers that show up in Disney disks at the very beginning), should these be kept in order to have a working project? I guess the answer is yes, but still would like to confirm it.

2) can I deselct titles/audios/subtitles in DoItFast4U and feed the result to ReAuthorist, or should I rip everything first with the former and make the selections with the later?

Ok, I thing this is enough right now. I must add that although I haven't succeded (yet) both tools look really amazing!

Cheers.

[aquabubble]

Hi fmazzanti,

Sorry to hear you are having problems. First of all, can I ask what version you are using? Please make sure you are using the The latest is 0.5.1 - this fixes some problems when loading certain projects.

In answer to your questions:

1. The aim is to replicate the DVD structure pretty much exactly. However, with careful attention you can remove those segments of video you mention - so long as they are replaced with a short, blank piece of video to keep the structure intact.

2. My preferred way of doing things is to rip everything and deselect appropriate assets in ReAuthorist since this will retain the exact DVD structure as the original and let you interactively see the effect on DVD size of deselecting different items. However, if you absolutely know that you're not going to need a specific stream then by all means deselect it in DoItFast4U.

[VerbaL]

Hi,

Just trying out the new beta and it seems that a lot has been improved once again. Really appreciate the efforts aquabubble and everyone that's working on these tools.

First times I tried ReAuthorist, I didn't use DoCCE4U but manually loaded the ECL file into CCE. Now I thought I'd give DC4U a try and I noticed that DC4U isn't loading the Bias and QFactor settings from ReAuthorist. Is this a known issue or should it have taken those from ReAuthorist as well?

Greetz,
verb

[aquabubble]

Thx VerbaL

Yeah, currently DoCCE4U is not able to take all of my settings so you will lose the bias and IQP. However, I have been working with BBWoof on modifications to his input file to allow all of these to be passed across. As soon as he is ready to release this version, I will get a new ver of RA out to use it. You can expect to see this quite soon.

[VerbaL]

Great! Thx for the update. I find it quite amazing how you co-operate with the other toolmakers and how quick program updates are being released.

[waldok]

We sure have a powerful trio here with Aquabubble, BBWoof and Eyes'Only. These guys rule.

Waldok:cool:

[Fmazzanti]

@aquabubble,
I'm also sorry about ReAuthorist crashing, but such is life... since this is my first contact with these tools, I can't really say is a ReAuthorist problem, I tend to think it's me who's messing up things.
In any case here's what I see: after DoItFast4U does its job, I have a folder that contains subfolders VTS01 to VTS09. VTS01 is the VTS of the main movie with 2 PGCs, and IfoEdit shows that PGC1 (=main movie) uses VOB IDs:1,2,3 while PGC2 is a tiny blank stream using VOB Id:3. If Iunderstand things correctly, this should not be a problem...
And well, ReAuthorist crashes when tries to load the contents of VTS02, which has copyrights etc. If I set the working directory to VTS01, then ReAuthorist doesn't crash but doesn't see any subpicture stream either (and there are 32 of them).
And yes, I'm using the last beta 0.5.1 Tried also with 0.5.0.5 and the same problem...
If you fell this might be something related to your prog, feel free to ask me for any info. As i said, I'm not sure this is really a bug, but probably you can tell better.
Anyway I keep thinking your tool together with Eyes Only one are heaven sent ;)
BTW thanks for the answer to my questions.

[Fmazzanti]

Ok, after messnig around I managed to have ReAuthorist recognising subtitles in VTS_01 8however the total project still crashes one it reaches VTS02). So I point the working directory of Reauthorist to the VTS01 folder created by DoItFast4U. After choosing audios, I hit the encode button and DoCCE shows up as expected... It then loads
VTS__01_P01.16-9_1 and... nothing happens (remember this is the first time I use it), so I hit the play button and a dialog looking for the .ecl file appears. I then load the .ecl file created by Reauthorist and DoCCE says the following
ERROR: Could not locate the CCE File Open dialog
ERROR: Could not load ECL file into CCE
but CCE is there and I can hit the 'encode' button myself and let it run over the loaded .ecl file (which does a 1pass VBR at Q=40 and then stops)... what is it I'm missing?

[dssgorila]

aquabubble
can i get an estimate as to how many days till the release of reauthorist. i dont mean to put pressure or anything im just curious to know when it will be available

[ShaneZ]

Well, after about a week I finally got a chance to check out your new work Aqua. :) Everything worked out great and you know if I didn't crash it, it must be pretty friggen stable.

Good job

:)

[brashquido]

I just finished my first ReAuthourist project, and from a total novice point of view I think it's fantastic tool!

Although I had no idea what I was doing, and actually intended to do a full 1:1 conversion, I ended up with a movie only result :rolleyes: .

As this is my first sucessful CCE/Scenarist based conversion, I'm was trully amazed with the resulting video quality. In a nutsell, quality = original :D :cool:

I'm going to play a bit more to see if I can find out why I got Movie only, I'm pretty sure I know what it was. I think I only imported the reautourist.scp file into scenarist, instead of all of the **.scp files ReAuourist produced.

[fourtyfour]

servus...

What do you expect?

It is a movie only tool.

You can use IfoUpdate for menu ect. to create a full backup.

[aquabubble]

When used correctly, ReAuthorist can help you achieve a full DVD copy in next to no time - it was never invisaged as a movie only tool, although I suppose it could be used for this. Anyway, please make sure you are following the instructions properly. Make sure you have "Create VIDEO_TS using unused VTSes" checked on in DoItFast4U and the following should work perfectly:

[list=1]
Rip those VTSs you need ripping by PGC in DoItFast4U
Start up ReAuthorist
Select your rip folder. (ReAuthorist will process all subfolders)
Move through your Title Sets (VTSs) and remove any unwanted audio and subpicture streams
Once you are happy with what's going to be in the project, either click on the Auto-Size button, or manually go through your PGCs to change the bitrates in order to get your project to fit on a DVD-R
Click on Encode to launch DoCCE4U and create your re-encoded files
Import the ReAuthorist.SCP script into Scenarist
Wait patiently while Scenarist does its stuff. If you wish, verify that your tracks have created successfully and with the correct audio/languages etc and that the Scenario looks appropriate
Get Scenarist to author your VOBs and IFOs
Copy the authored VOB files to the location of your other files, i.e. the VIDEO_TS folder that DoItFast4U created for you (excluding any VTS dummies unless you're ditching the VTS completely)
Run IfoUpdate on the original IFOs and correct the VTS sectors
Test it and burn it baby!
[/list=1]

[Fmazzanti]

Hi,
bad news again. I tried a second DVD and at least this time it goes through DoItFast4U and ReAuthorist until the end. However, when I load the project in Scenarist and copile, it spits the following messages

Info
Info Creating DVD Files
Warning Sub-Picture (stream 1 in Track "VTS_01_PGC_01") is across scene boundary at 00:11:19;05
Error The Audio Attribute(Language, coding mode and so on) in PGC<VTS_01_PGC_02pgc>:Stream<0>:Title<Title102> is different from The Reference PGC<VTS_01_PGC_01pgc>
Error The Audio Attribute(Language, coding mode and so on) in PGC<VTS_01_PGC_06pgc>:Stream<0>:Title<Title103> is different from The Reference PGC<VTS_01_PGC_01pgc>
Error The Audio Attribute(Language, coding mode and so on) in PGC<VTS_01_PGC_06pgc>:Stream<1>:Title<Title103> is different from The Reference PGC<VTS_01_PGC_01pgc>
Error PreCheck From DB failed
Error DVD files could not be created

and does not compile anything. Well... time to do the backup 'old style' I guess.

Cheers!

[aquabubble]

I think there may be a problem with DoItFast4U in setting the language in the audio/subs filenames. All you need to do to correct this is to go through your tracks in Scenarist and make sure that those audio streams in the same positions within a VTS are set to the same language. Then everything will work perfectly I assure you.

Don't give up so easily! ;)

[Fmazzanti]

@aquabubble,
thanks for the advice. Apparently it worked and now the project compiles...
Now please don't think I want to surrender. I have a backup pending to do today, but that doesn't mean I'm going to withdraw. I asked you for the beta of ReAuthorist and you sent it to me, so now i have the responsability to give you my feedback and I try to do it. That is the LEAST thing I can do...
BTW I still have to send to you the file you requested. It will be comming either today or tomorrow...

[brashquido]

Hey aquabubble,

I followed your steps to the letter and I've got my 1:1 copy :D :D. Came out at 4484MB, so there is no wasted space either:D.

It came out so close to the original, I never thought it was possible. Apart froma few audio/visual stutters and artifacts in the extras, it is to my eye 100% identical. I find it weird that there are these artifacts in the extras though, as I didn't re-encode them. They are all straight from the DVD rip, should be identical to the original?:confused:

*edit*

Forgot to say that when I went to burn it with Nero 5.5.10.7 it came up with an error saying a vob file was missing, but it burnt and seems to work on both my PC and set top player. Could this have anything to do with the artifacts? Not that it really matters, just curious is all.

[brashquido]

Just thinking, could the artifact, and nero errors be due to this conversion being so close to the maximum limit of the DVD-R limit? The conversion I did came out at 4,699,965,440 bytes which only leaves 34,560 bytes left on the disc. Could this upset it in this way?

I don't believe it's media (could be wrong) as I'm using Pioneer DVD-RW media for testing like I normally do, and it's never been a problem before.

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by brashquido
Just thinking, could the artifact, and nero errors be due to this conversion being so close to the maximum limit of the DVD-R limit? The conversion I did came out at 4,699,965,440 bytes which only leaves 34,560 bytes left on the disc. Could this upset it in this way?

I don't believe it's media (could be wrong) as I'm using Pioneer DVD-RW media for testing like I normally do, and it's never been a problem before.

Nero could be the problem. I used to use it to burn, but now I created my dvdr iso with ImgTools and burn back with DVD Decrypter. I had artifact problems as well and it seemed to clear up a lot of the flakey little problems I was having.

@Waldok:
I stand corrected :)

[waldok]

@Shanez, is this "DVD Decoder" an app you just wrote ? :p :p
or did you mean "DVD Decrypter" ? :D

@aquabubble : Sorry to say this, but I have a constant crash (error : cannot write to memory at adress blabla") with the latest Beta at import time on the movie Snatch R2. Tried the same operation on the same DIF4U-generated files with the 0.49 version and it works fine.
I'm sorry I can't give much more details right now, the movie is Snatch R2, 20 VTS, nothing special apparently.

Maybe you can get this movie and try by yourself ? I just used latest DIF4U, unchecked all "non english" audio streams, and kept French subtitles only.
I really don't know what else I could say to help. Really, trying this by yourself is your best bet.


Good luck.

Waldok:cool:

[aquabubble]

Hi waldok,

Hmmm... this is an odd error. Not seen any problems like this in a long while. I will email you to get more details if that's okay - my log file contains a lot of information that is useful to me.

Actually, to all my beta testers... Until ReAuthorist goes public, if you get any bugs with the betas, please could you email them to me rather than using the forums? Thanks :)

To anybody else reading this, don't worry - I'm working hard to make sure the public release is as flawless as possible :D

[SniperKilla]

heh, /me cant wait to get his hands on it

[hendrix]

@aquabubble i'd like to be a beta tester - i do a lot of episode dvds
(ie simpsons, oz, etc.) i want to check out how well your proggy can handle them.

TIA
Hendrix

hendrix_lars AT hotmail.com

[waldok]

Aquabubble,

Sorry, I just mixed up everything, as I used PM with eyes Only for a DIF4U bug instead of using the forum and used the forum for "your bug "instead of emailing or pm you.
Maybe I should stop drinking after all... :D

Waldok:cool:

[hendrix]

@ waldok

don't stop drinking man :angry:

[Fmazzanti]

Hi,
I knowbug reporst and stuff like that should go PM, but I just wanted to say that the second backup I reported to fail (where end credits of the main movie were missing) has finally surrendered to the power of ReAuthorist. Don't ask me what I did 'cause I started messing around with my PC until I had things fixed, but after that I started all over again and this time got a *perfect* copy. This program really rocks and I'm happy to be a beta tester...
Cheers.

[dssgorila]

what version of docce4u and doitfast4u do i need for reauthorist

[redeemer-dk]

Is it possible to post a link to the newest ReAuthorist or can you send it to my email?

Thanks a bunch. Sounds like a great prog!

rune.svendsen@mail.com

[d4g]

you probally got my msg in mirc but ill post here anyway so i can get an answer


ok when u rip by angles in doitfast4u and the subs are named with a1 a2 and so forth

when i use reauthorist ra it doesnt import those files....i have to import it it looks like it doesnt recognise the a1 and a2 files..but when i rename them to the non angle way they import fine can you look into this thanx

d4g

[brashquido]

d4g I think aquabubble is wanting to keep all discussion regarding the operation/enhancement/bugs of ReAuthorist restricted to the e-mail addresses included in the readme file that comes with the beta. Just so the non-beta testers don't feel left out, and to avoid confusion. Nice feedback though :)

[SkoalWintergreen]

Any release date information on this yet? sounds like it is working for a lot of beta testers? I do a lot of movie only, stripped to sing PGC, if the program can easily do that maybe a movie only release so the general public can get a feel for the program? either way just curious, pretty excited about this.

[GlenC]

Hi,

Reauthorist is designed for keeping the whole or most of the dvd intact. Single pgc's can be done without this program with ease.

It is not a rip tool such as instant copy or dvd2one.

The process is dvddecrypter->dif4u->reauthorist->docce4u->reauthorist->scenarist->ifoupdate

It's still a longish process to go through, probably around 24 hours computer time? in total, but the final output, your complete dvd in VERY high quality, is worth it.

As Aquabubble say, it's for the purists.


Glen.

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by GlenC
Hi,

Reauthorist is designed for keeping the whole or most of the dvd intact. Single pgc's can be done without this program with ease.

It is not a rip tool such as instant copy or dvd2one.

The process is dvddecrypter->dif4u->reauthorist->docce4u->reauthorist->scenarist->ifoupdate

It's still a longish process to go through, probably around 24 hours computer time? in total, but the final output, your complete dvd in VERY high quality, is worth it.

As Aquabubble say, it's for the purists.


Glen.

I was gonna reply as well, but I think you pretty much summed up everything that needed to be said. :)

Aqua has done one hell of a job.

[Fmazzanti]

Need some help here :)

I've been backing up a movie with Reauthorist. I've followed Aqua's instructions, but the final result does not play properly :(

Trouble is with VTS_01, where the main movie resides. It has 2 PGCs, the second one being a blank stream of 0.15 secs. I go through all the steps and Scenarist compiles the project, but the final VTS_01.IFO contains 2 cells less than the original one. These cells correspond to positions where Vob_ID changes in the original files, while in the generated by Scenarist there's only one Vob_ID.
So IfoUpdate fails when doing its job, complaining about the number of cells not being the same in the original and authored file.
If I understand that correctly (although I'm not sure at all about this) IfoUpdate must be run in Adjusted cell mode, isn't it? I've tried all modes and only Standard works, but the resulting project does not play propperly. Can someone help me? I don't know what I'm doing wrong... Please indicate what would be the right mode in IfoUpdate. I've been using the prior to latest release of ReAuthorist, 'cause I don't have the latest one yet. I'll download it and run it on this project once again, anyway. However, I'd like to understand what's going on...


Originally posted by GlenC

The process is dvddecrypter->dif4u->reauthorist->docce4u->reauthorist->scenarist->ifoupdate


What? According to aqua's readme, the second reauthorist step (the one you write before scenarist) is not there... what is it for?

Thanks.

[GlenC]

Hi,

The first Reauthorist step is to set the vts sizes, after this docce4u is called. The second Reauthorist step is creating the scenarist project.

Glen.

Btw. Excellent job Aquabubble!!

[ShaneZ]

There was a slight error with RA handline NTSC video in RA 0.6.0.3beta but Aqua has just released 0.6.0.4beta that should solve the problems.

Hope that helps before you swamp Aqua with bug reports. :)

Shane

[Fmazzanti]

Thanks for the answer! But still I'm missing something... I usually do both steps at once, before running docce4u, and maybe that's the reason why I have troubles with the resulting DVD structure (I have to fine tune it by hand with IfoEdit in the end).
Why can't you create the scenarist project before running docce4u?

Originally posted by GlenC
Hi,

The first Reauthorist step is to set the vts sizes, after this docce4u is called. The second Reauthorist step is creating the scenarist project.

Glen.

Btw. Excellent job Aquabubble!!

[SkoalWintergreen]

Just a note for those of us who just want our hands on a beta of Reauthorist you can just load up your favorite IRC program and get on the EFNet network and join the room #doom9dls and their should be a bot in their that is serving the latest Reauthorist Beta. This is just for those who aren't really into the beta testing but want to try it out.

Amazing program by the way, all you programers are quite talented. Keep it up.

[SniperKilla]

0.6.0.4 not working, i hit encode and the program flashes and sits there :(

nevermind, i restarted my pc, and it worked now.

[Fmazzanti]

Hi guys,

I start to be desesperated and I need somebody's help to get a project done with ReAuthorist. I'm affraid I'm missing something really important here because I can't make a workable project out of this movie and that's because I'm probably doing something weird, so please somebody help me here... In any case, I did want I understood it had to be done according to Aquabubbles readme. I'm using release 0.6.0.3beta.

My movie has VTS_01 through VTS_09. That's the contents

VTS_01: 2 PGCs, PGC1 main movie, PGC2 a blank stream
VTS_02: Warnings in several languages anank streams that are there d a Touchstone logo
VTS_03: Trailer
VTS_04: A 'deleted scenes' extra
VTS_05: 'movie making' extra
VTS_07: Trailers of other movies.
VTS_08: Trailer of the movie in french

VTS_06 and VTS_09 are short VTSs that I don't know what they have, as DVD2AVI and PowerDVD do not play them (they're probably blank streams that are probably there just to make a workable DVD structure).

Now since VTS_04 ia round 2Gb in the original and I'm not really interested in it, I just deleted the VOBs and hacked the IFO in order to bypass it. I did this in the original rip and the whole DVD played ok in IfoEdit, so I'm sure I didn't do anything wrong.

Problems came after that. I ran DIF4U and told it to process VTS_01, VTS_03 and VTS_05 only, because those are the only VTSs I wanted to reencode. I though that (appart from VTS_04) all other VTSs are so small that I could simply keep the original ones in the final project.
That way I got in the DIF4U rip folder 4 new subfolders: VTS_01, VTS_03, VTS_5 and VIDEO_TS containing the rest of files belonging to the original DVD.
Once DIF4U did his job, I ran ReAuthorist on the ripped folder and it correctly detected all VTSs. VTS_01, VTS_03 and VTS_05 showed the corresponding information, while VTS_02 and VTS_04 showed in blank. No VTS_06 to VTS_09 were seen by reAuthorist.

I then went through the required steps: pressed the Auto Size button, then the ENcode button and once that finished, the Author button. I got the a ReAuthorist project that loaded up into Scenarist and, after a while, compiled the project.

At theat point I found in the Scenarist folder a DVD structure conatining the VIDEO_TS files, and the VTS_01 to VTS_05 IFOs, BUPs and VOBs. Still, by loading up VIDEO_TS into PowerDVD and playing it, it jumped right to the movie: no menues, no nothing else.
I then copied the VTS_01, VTS_03 and VTS_05 VOB files to the VIDEO_TS folder created by DIF4U, and tried to run IfoUpdate. Then came the problems:

a) I could only do the IfoUpdate of VTS_01 in 'Standard' mode, as 'Adjusted cell mode' and 'cell only mode' complained about the original and the authored files contining different number of cells. I'm not very experienced on this, but checking both file in IfoEdit I see they have the same amount of cells (0 to 32 in PGC1 and 1 in PGC2). Running IfoUpdate on VTS_03 and VTS_05 in standar mode worked.

However, the final project does not play well. ALready at the very beginning, after the Touchstone logo, IfoEdit player stops. Ging to the root menu by hand a from there to the scenes menu and from there to the last scene, after the movie ends it does not go back to the title menu but freezes there. Exactly the same thing happens when I play any of the reencoded extras.

SO... I guess I did it completely wrong. That means I don't really know how do I have to use all these programs. So would you say the DVD navigation structure was broken because I just processed few VTSs in ReAuthorist instead of process the whole thing?

What would be the right startegy then? Rip everything with DIF4U, and then check/uncheck unwanted PGCs in reAuthorist instead? Would that preserve the complete DVD structure?

Please, somebody help me to understand this one... I've been fighting with this movie for three days and I start to feel a huge pain about it...

Thanks for your help.

[tomy601k]

What would be the right startegy then? Rip everything with DIF4U, and then check/uncheck unwanted PGCs in reAuthorist instead? Would that preserve the complete DVD structure?

That's the strategy u have to follow ... Don't Strip the movie ... you'll probably miss with the structure of the DVD ... :rolleyes:

Tomy.

[Fmazzanti]

Thanks for the advice. However if I do that ReAuthorist crashes when reading the folders createdby DIF4U. This damn VTS_02 is killing me, man... It contains still images (copyright notes) that dvd2avi doesn't handle welll. I found that one before. Anyway thanks.

[dssgorila]

I hope someone makes a nice guide with screenshots of doitfast, docce4u and reauthorist in one tutorial, any of you pros willing to take this on.. :)

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by dssgorila
I hope someone makes a nice guide with screenshots of doitfast, docce4u and reauthorist in one tutorial, any of you pros willing to take this on.. :)

If I am not mistaken (and I can be), Doom9 is waiting for the initial public release of RA before redoing the DoItFast Guide.

Shane

[Doom9]

indeed.. don't worry, the day RA is publicly released you'll have your guide. And basically it's just ripping out the Scenarist part of the current guide and replace it with very few instructions.. the rest of the way is already laid out in the current guide.

[dssgorila]

i love this place :)

[jerschwab]

Just wondering if in reauthorist, do I hit "Author It" before or after I encode?? it's worked for me when i create the scripts before... but i'm not sure if this is right?! I read the Readme and what I could in this forum (I have read everything, maybe not all of it stuck in my melon!).

This is the part in the Readme that is unclear to me:

6. Click on Encode to launch DoCCE4U and create your re-encoded files

7. Import the ReAuthorist.SCP script into Scenarist

At what point should I create the scripts? Or should Reauthorist create the scripts after DoCCE4U is complete?

I have backed up several movies creating the scripts before DoCCE4U, but I'm not sure if that's right (or why it would even matter).

THANKS GUYS!!

[Rack]

Hi, If you followed ReAuthorist from its early betas you'll be familiar with it and you'll know what to do :)

6. Click on Encode to launch DoCCE4U and create your re-encoded files

6a. Click on Authore it (After DoCCE4U is finished)

7.Import the ReAuthorist.SCP script into Scenarist

I hope that will help you ;)

Rack.

[Fmazzanti]

But whay after DoCCE4U? Incidentally once I created the authoring file before DoCCE4U and then once again after the encoding was done, and I got the same result... Anyone can explain why should it be pressed after DoCCE4U?

[influenza]

I don't think the moment is importatnt. As far as I can can see the program just looks for m2v/mpv files and creates a script for it. I f you didn't encode the movie yet your project will be to big to fit on dvd-r that's all.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
But whay after DoCCE4U? Incidentally once I created the authoring file before DoCCE4U and then once again after the encoding was done, and I got the same result... Anyone can explain why should it be pressed after DoCCE4U?

Actually, it makes no difference whether you press it before or after. Ideally the SCP should be created at the same time as the encoding starts, but for flexibility I allow the encoding and the script creation to be done separately.

[SkoalWintergreen]

Does Reauthorist support forced Subtitles?? I was just curious I'm about to get started on Lord of the Rings and I know that needs forced subs during the Evilsh speaking parts.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by SkoalWintergreen
Does Reauthorist support forced Subtitles?? I was just curious I'm about to get started on Lord of the Rings and I know that needs forced subs during the Evilsh speaking parts.

Absolutely - so long as you rip the subs with dif4u, it will set all the forced subs automatically for you.

[Fmazzanti]

Hey!
I asked that before but didn't get an answer, so I try it again :D According to aqua's instructions, once the Scenarist stuff is done, one should run IfoUpdate on the resulting ifos. Well, the question is: in which mode? Standard? Adjust Cell mode? Does it depend on the VTS, if it has several PGCs or not, etc etc as when you do it 'by hand'?
Help appreciated, you DVD gurus :D :D

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by Fmazzanti
Hey!
I asked that before but didn't get an answer, so I try it again :D According to aqua's instructions, once the Scenarist stuff is done, one should run IfoUpdate on the resulting ifos. Well, the question is: in which mode? Standard? Adjust Cell mode? Does it depend on the VTS, if it has several PGCs or not, etc etc as when you do it 'by hand'?
Help appreciated, you DVD gurus :D :D

You just need to run IFOUpdate in Standard mode.

Shane

[DVDHack]

Are we there yet ????

Any update on when it will be released?

I'm not impatient, really I'm not !!

[toolman2k]

I have read trilights guide...but it doesnt mention encoding of menu's....i think it just keep the original menus right ? but what if you have like huge 1GB moving menus....can it be encoded also ?

[Fmazzanti]

If there's a 1Gb menu, I guess that's mostly because it comes in many languages. You should then consider stripping off unwanted menu languages with IfoEdit. And in case it is just a one language menu... man! What kind of menues are there in your dvds :p ? In that case I would simply consider removing completely the menu and creating a new one with Maestro or Scenarisr, or even transcoding the original one with tools like InstantCopy or so... what I would not do by any means is to suck one whole Gigabyte from a DVD-R for a menu. After all, menues are nice but just a transient thing that leads you to what you wanna see (the movie), isn't it?

[toolman2k]

i had several dvd's with big menu vobs..like bourne identity has a 900mb menu or something.....anyway, I tried reauthorist and stuff....but where can i read about how to rip with dif4u? do i need to vobsub all on all pgc's ? and why does reauthorist take so long to process files ? is it normal that it makes like thousands of dummy ac3's ? that is what its doing now....i dont think thats correct though....

[Eyes`Only]

....but where can i read about how to rip with dif4u?

Doom9 has a 'doitfast-guide' in his guides section.

[toolman2k]

yes i know,however......its about how to set it so reauhorist can take it.anyway, i set it to create auto create folder for eacht vts and to process vobsub all on each pgc.

it seeems reauthorist accepts it, however it looks like its not responding.....when i look in the logfile it says it making dummy ac3's.....but many houndreds...is that ok ?

[Doom9]

@toolman: the settings in the guide should work for reauthorist, after writing the guide I used the same setup to make two reauthorist projects and they worked just fine. If the darned codec comparison gives me some time off I will write a guide for beta testers.

[toolman2k]

thanks doom.i look forward to it! but what about those hundreds of dummy ac3's ? is that normal ? i mean it looks like reauthorist is not responding anymore...but it is busy for sure....

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by toolman2k
it seeems reauthorist accepts it, however it looks like its not responding.....when i look in the logfile it says it making dummy ac3's.....but many houndreds...is that ok ?

Hmmm.... you may have found a little bug. I think I know what it might be, but if you email me your log file I will take a look at it for you.

[toolman2k]

ok thanks.I will have to start over again, since i deleted all the files....I will try again and send you the log.

[toolman2k]

does anyone know how can verify that reauthorist is taking all (non processed) files into account when setting enconding settings ? im doing tombraider now, but it says "video_ts=0mb" this looks weird to me, isnt it supposed to put the size of the untouched files there? i mean im encoding now....but i wouldnt like it if i found out that in the end the size is too big.....

if this is not correct, then how can i fix it ?


-------------------------------------------
ok aquabubble just mailed me....I guess im just a stupid newbie not knowing i had to set dif4u make a folder with unused files...silly me:)

[dssgorila]

can someone help me ive done the entire project and the menu doesnt come up it plays straight to the movie.

[VerbaL]

Did you do a Get VTS sectors in IfoEdit at the end? I had the same problem yesterday and I forgot to do that step.

[toolman2k]

ok, i finally have all my files ready to be updated by ifoupdate.....i might be doing something wrong(i hope so) but after reading guides by both trilight and doom i did this:

- i had my final folder with all files copied over from the mounted iso that needed no updating, so basically all vobs ifos bups,except the VOBs(just the vobs) that needed reencoding.
<i forgot to let dif4u make a video_ts folder with unused vts's,thats why i had to do this by hand>

- then i copied all my authored VOBs(only vobs) to this folder

- i ran ifoupdate, with (correct options set in standard mode), pointing to the original (copied from mounted iso to the final folder) ifo's that needed updating (so only the ones I had reauthored) and the authored ones, these were about 5 or so....

- then i did vts correct

now when i play the video_ts in powerdvd, it locks up, black screen, and my HD starts to make noise....but nothing happens it just freezes.

does anyone know what to do? im desperate here! i got it all working...with the cool tool reauthorist.....but now it doesnt play correct.:(

---------------------------------------------------------------------
OK i found out what it is.......I forgot to copy all the vts*_0.vob 's to the final folder....better let dif4u do it for me next time:) but now i have an oversized dvd...so i have to figure out how to smartly reduce a part of the video to make it all fit without having to reencode all again, but thats just a puzzle that i know can be resolved :)

[dssgorila]

ok i got the whole reddraggon project done i tested it on powerdvd and it works sweet i checked to see if the chapter menus where sync
and they were. I then burned the dvd and try to watch it on the standalone player and it froze at the warning. I remebered that i forgot to do the vts sector update. Is there anyway to extract the dvd i burned and corect and reburn, ive deleted the encoded project and i dont want to start all over. Can anyone help me.

Thanks in advance.

[Ripe73]

Rip the dvd with DVDdec(all files) and then choose get VTS sectors
with IFOedit and reburn it

[Fmazzanti]

If I'm not wrong that's the *simplest* thing in the world: just put your burned dvd in the dvd drive and copy its contents to a folder :D
Then do what you want with it. Burned dvd's have copy protection removed, so that's why it is so simple. Then do Get VTS sectors and voila!

[dssgorila]

It worked i tried and it works. This excellent Reauthorist, DoCCE4u and DoITFAST4u all kick ass keep up the goodwork guys. Everyone who helped me thanks. Im going to work on some more projects.

[dssgorila]

all we need now is a list of movies that can and cannot be done with the "Big 3"

[toolman2k]

maybe tombraider cant be done :( please look into here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51975

[jerschwab]

Tombraider was one of the first DVD's I did with Reauthorist. Worked pretty well actually.

[dssgorila]

i havent tried tombraider and im not to experienced to help with your problem sorry. Has anyone done resident evil ive done the project til the scenarist part when i try to compile the movie in scenarist i get an error and scenarist shuts down a dialog comes stating that scenarist has generated some errors.

[brashquido]

No idea sorry, perhaps send your ReAuthourist log and/or ReAuthourist.scp file to aquabubbles bugfix address so he can have a look?

[toolman2k]

ok people ...it was my drive being bad! i just now burnt a working backup of tombraider with my new a05 :) thanks all for the help and thanks aquabubble for making this great tool !

[toolman2k]

why doesnt reauthorist set the encoding properties right in the ECL it makes ? i mean, i checked the orignal video specs...but reauthorist set its all wrong, like putting it at linear while source is non linear etc....also, i wonder why it doesnt set topfield first off, since its know to be buggy....CCE always encodes topfield first no matter what u set.....but if you do set it, errors may occur like black lines in bottom of video......anyway, its not hard to chage it all to make it right, but it would save time if you have like 20 or so itmes to encode...just my thoughts.

bte, i dont like docce4u, since it doesnt give me the control i need over the encoding, like setting the image priority.

[aquabubble]

@toolman2k

When I first started designing RA, I intended one day to detect these properties and set them correctly. However, when I heard that BBWoof would be building his tool, I stopped my research and left these things to the expert. Therefore, unfortunately RA does not detect and set any of the video properties apart from those controlling the bitrate.

Give DoCCE4U some time and it will eventually become much more intelligent. In my opinion, it's no longer RA's place to do this and for the foreseeable future, I will be doing no more work on the ECL files - sorry! :)

[69Mws]

I had the chance to watch this tool in action and it's very impressive.

As far as I saw, RA creates dummy-mpv's for the Titlesets, that were not checked in DIF4U.

Regarding to Trilight's Guide, there must also be Dummy Files for Audio.

Now my question is, are dummy-audio files necessary at all or are dummy-mpv's sufficent to "uphold the integrity of the original structure" (nice expression, eh? :D )

If so, is it planned that RA creates automatically these dummy-audios?

Although it doesn't really need to "create" dummy-files, 'cause in the DIF4U-Guide@doom9 are already Trilight's dummy-audios to download, which could be "simply" copied and renamed by RA when needed, as far as a path can be set in RA which points to the location of the dummy-audio files.

Maybe you could also add me to your "Beta Testing Group", I'd really appreciate that :)

69mws@myrealbox.com

Greetz
69Mws

[whaqatac]

Aquabubble, Sounds like your developing a great tool.

I would like to be able to give you feedback with the rest of your testers on ReAuthorist if you email the beta to me.

Thanks

Whaqatac@hotmail.com

[toolman2k]

hmmm....i just had my scenarist crashing:(

this is the case: i encoded my extras at half resolution......so the first time scenarist gives an error saying the video resolution is different.that was resolved by editing the frame sizes in the .scp script of reauthorist....but now at the very end it just crashes scenarist.

anybody an idea why ?

[Eyes`Only]

half resolution == YUCK.

At 1850, your extras are already less than 50% their original size, at 1750 they are well below. You can EASILY lower the size of your extras without resulting to drastic measures like decreasing the video resolution! Isn't the whole objective to obtain a near-original likeness?

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
half resolution == YUCK.

At 1850, your extras are already less than 50% their original size, at 1750 they are well below. You can EASILY lower the size of your extras without resulting to amateurish antics like decreasing the video resolution! Isn't the whole objective to obtain a near-original likeness?

'nuff said.

yes but in my case i had to do it like that to avoid blockiness and to keep main movie at respectable size of original.Its really crap the xtras at 1800.i rather have a softer less blocky picture then a sharper one with blocks all over.in my opinion it comes closer to original then just putting crappy full size video on the disc.

[Eyes`Only]

Can't imagine where you're getting that opinion from. Are you only doing 1 pass or something (that 1 pass theory is just total BS when it comes to DVDr)? Just an example, I backed up Charlie's Angels R1 the other day.. after mounting the reauthored .iso, and testing it on PC before burning, I watched some extras, and damn if I didn't have to doublecheck to make sure that I didn't have the original .iso mounted! I seriously couldn't tell the difference. 1850 w/5pass CCE.

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
Can't imagine where you're getting that opinion from. Are you only doing 1 pass or something (that 1 pass theory is just total BS when it comes to DVDr)? Just an example, I backed up Charlie's Angels R1 the other day.. after mounting the reauthored .iso, and testing it on PC before burning, I watched some extras, and damn if I didn't have to doublecheck to make sure that I didn't have the original .iso mounted! I seriously couldn't tell the difference. 1850 w/5pass CCE.

i tried that too, but its too blocky...its crap.i like it softer and less blocky.....its alot more appealing to the eye than blocks all over the place.maybe its the quality of the source or something, but it looks crap to me.

so i like it this way better...so give me an answer to my question and respect my opinion as a regular dvd backupper trying to get my stuff working in the way I want it, dont talk to me like im stupid....i know what im doing.i just need help to get the halfsized video working and not crashing.thats all.unless you have a magical way to make the quality better, so that I like it also and not just you, try to help me with my script/scenarist:)

[Eyes`Only]

I apologize and have edited my original posting.

As for helping you with your script/scenarist, I think you have posted in the right thread,
If you have successfully reauthored others using your techniques manually in Scenarist, it sounds like a RA issue/feature.

Whether he's going to be willing to support such unorthodox techniques is up to him. Even Doom9 doesn't agree with reducing the size of video, as is evident in thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=287719
where someone else brought up this notion and he says well.. I think when Eyes came up with the line "tools for doing full DVD backup the way it's supposed to be" and I made it the forum motto I think we both meant that the way it's supposed to be = 720x480/576.

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
I apologize and have edited my original posting.

As for helping you with your script/scenarist, I think you have posted in the right thread,
If you have successfully reauthored others using your techniques manually in Scenarist, it sounds like a RA issue/feature.

Whether he's going to be willing to support such unorthodox techniques is up to him. Even Doom9 doesn't agree with reducing the size of video, as is evident in thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=287719
where someone else brought up this notion and he says

its ok man.i found out that it a needed .mpv was named .m2v.....so thats why it crashed....however it now have a problem when compiling, its saying "nr of frames in vobu is less than 10..." bla bla ....and then it crashes......any idea how this can be resolved ?

[turtle]

just wondering if i could get a hold of reauthorist? if not, thanks anyways.

-turtle
lookturtle@aol.com

[nlphillips]

I've been trying to get RA as well. I read further up in this thread that it is available on IRC.... but what with me being a total moron and not knowing what I'm doing on IRC, I can't get it. Oh well.

[turtle]

my bad

[aquabubble]

I just want to say guys, if you are going to use a beta version, you need to promise me that you will let me know when something goes wrong. There have been certain people that have tried out the beta, say "durr... it don't wurk" and then don't let me know so I don't know what is wrong nor how to fix it. Then they go round badmouthing it - that's bad karma in my books since it's not yet a public release. :mad:

So, by getting the beta it is on the understanding that some things may not work quite right, and you accept this possibility with a smile on your face. I want you to make a committment to me that you will help me to make the tool better. :)

Oh, and for bugreports for the betas, please email me directly rather than using the forums. This is until the public release is ready.

[nlphillips]

Originally posted by aquabubble
I just want to say guys, if you are going to use a beta version, you need to promise me that you will let me know when something goes wrong.

So, by getting the beta it is on the understanding that somethings may not work quite right, and you accept this possibility with a smile on your face. I want you to make a committment to me that you will help me to make the tool better. :)



Whether some things work correctly or not quite so is not an issue... and if I do get something going wrong then I will certainly inform you of it. I've just read so much about this cool new tool that I'm dying to give it a go for myself..... not that I've actually got a burner yet (still waiting for it to be delivered)

Good job I've got large HD's

Thanks Aquabubble
:cool:

[waldok]

Believe me guys, I'm part of the lucky reauthorist testers and I can tell this program would put all official well-paid beta testers on the dole for it is really well written and has very few bugs.
I'm using it all the time and it works like a charm (sometimes I report small bugs too, although often the bug comes from my own mistakes).

This is a really great program, and it certainly is ready to be released to the masses. Now Aqua, what are you waiting for ? :D
Lots of crap go out as so-said releases on the market (no, no, I won't tell names..huh ? OK for 50 dollars I'll tell some :D ) and your software is definitely a major piece in the reauthoring process. I repeat : What are you waiting for ? You will not be able to solve all the possible bugs before releasing, plus you'll get more feedback from more users onces it is released, so go ahead, pal, don't be shy :p

Keep up the good work !

Waldok:cool:

[brashquido]

RA's public release is completely at Aquabubble's discretion. If he hasn't released it, there will be a reason. Remember Aquabubble has many beta testers, who knows what others have found. I'd recommend beta testers have a read of the limitations section of the readme file that accompanies the beta as a guess of what Aquabubble is trying to get implemented before a public release is offered (this is purely my assumption).

Anyway, although the general feel seems to be that RA is ripe for a public release, the best way we as beta testers can support Aquabubble is to use it in as many varying ways as possible, and report any quirks, bugs, crashes or otherwise to the e-mail address he provided in the readme file. Don't forget to send in any suggestion you might have too :) . Other than that, just try and keep RA bug discussion between yourself and Aquabubble as he has requested in this thread.

[turtle]

just to let everyone know i totally understand what beta testing is. i do a lot of dvd backing up, and am looking forward to testing your new tool, reauthorist. i will not get upset if and when it doesnt work right, or look down on it, but i will report any problems i have. i would like to test it out so that the public release can be sped up a bit. thanks.

-turtle

[waldok]

Brashquido,

I hope you noticed that I was a bit "humoristic" here. (see the smileys). I was just joking a bit about the well-known difficulty authors seem to have to consider their software "ready to use" and satisfactory. Far from me to try to tell Aquabubble what he should or should not do.
(Gee, I hate having to explain this...)

Waldok:cool:

[toolman2k]

reauthorist works very well..but only with non seamless branching titles.......is there an easy way to check a title for this ? that way you save yourself many hours of work........

[brashquido]

Sorry waldok,

I wasn't meaning to sound critical, I believe RA is mature enough for a public release too. Just wanting to make sure we are giving Aquabubble the support he's requesting. That's all :) .

@toolman2k

I found this in the Scenarist guide:

Before we start the operation let's get back to VOB ID demuxing for a second: Select the first VTS set in the DVD structure view, then right click to start up IfoEdit. Then have a look at the section marked in red:
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/images/ifoedit/ifoedit-usesvobid.gif
For each PGC there's a (uses VOB_IDs: ) section. If a number is listed in multiple PGCs them I'm afraid you'll have to go the hard way (seamless branching titles are the most popular ones requiring processing by VOB ID). If one VOB ID is used in almost all PGCs but at the end and it's only a very short clip, then don't bother demuxing by VOB ID, just add it to each PGC when you are reauthoring in Scenarist.

[toolman2k]

thanks alot brashquido!

[toolman2k]

hi all, is it possible to do multiangle with reauthorist ?

if yes, then how?

im doing k19 now, which has 2 angles for some chapters......so i checked all angles on the movie vts in dif4u.....is that correct ?

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by toolman2k
hi all, is it possible to do multiangle with reauthorist ?

if yes, then how?

im doing k19 now, which has 2 angles for some chapters......so i checked all angles on the movie vts in dif4u.....is that correct ?

If you are doing a multi-angled project, to the best of my knowledge RA does not currently support that. It would have to be ripped by VobID and currently RA supports ripping by PGC only.

Well, after reading Aqua's post I stand corrected.

:D

[aquabubble]

RA can handle multi-angle projects, but it is restricted to where the angles are throughout the PGC. So if your title has only a few cells where there are multiple angles then it will need to be done by vobid. :)

[69Mws]

Originally posted by aquabubble
I just want to say guys, if you are going to use a beta version, you need to promise me that you will let me know when something goes wrong. There have been certain people that have tried out the beta, say "durr... it don't wurk" and then don't let me know so I don't know what is wrong nor how to fix it. Then they go round badmouthing it - that's bad karma in my books since it's not yet a public release. :mad:

So, by getting the beta it is on the understanding that some things may not work quite right, and you accept this possibility with a smile on your face. I want you to make a committment to me that you will help me to make the tool better. :)

Oh, and for bugreports for the betas, please email me directly rather than using the forums. This is until the public release is ready.

Oh you don't have to point that explicitly out to report bugs. I'm sure I'll do that (ok, I speak for me right now, if others don't do that, it's their own fault....)

I already saw what this tool is capable of and wanna do some more testing on my own and sure report bugs, as far as I bump into them.

I'm also doing lots of backups and this week I'll have lot more time, 'cause I'm on vacation and don't have to work :D :devil:

Greetz
69Mws

P.S.: 69mws@myrealbox.com :)

[jerschwab]

Any chance there will be a "check" by Reauthorist telling us if it can't do the DVD? I'm not very good at reading IFO's at the moment, but am having lots of fun with these programs despite that!

[GlenC]

Hi,

I would think this is a job for dif4u, but I may be wrong.

Glen.

[dssgorila]

I need help someone I finally got all my stuff working i did final destination fine, Im doing harry potter 2 r1, all the encoding went fine which by the way has excellent quality with 6 passes. Well my problem is when i import the Reauthorist script in scenarist i get this error

Warning This Video [ G:\MOVIES TO DO\Harry Potter 2\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.MPV.M2V ] has different duration.

Error The scene ( VTS_01_PGC_01, VTS01_vobid05_cellid19 ) timecode ( 02:31:34:16 ) is bigger than video duration.

Error Importing failed

What should i do i Try to compile it and scenarist freezes

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by dssgorila
I need help someone I finally got all my stuff working i did final destination fine, Im doing harry potter 2 r1, all the encoding went fine which by the way has excellent quality with 6 passes. Well my problem is when i import the Reauthorist script in scenarist i get this error

Warning This Video [ G:\MOVIES TO DO\Harry Potter 2\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.MPV.M2V ] has different duration.

Error The scene ( VTS_01_PGC_01, VTS01_vobid05_cellid19 ) timecode ( 02:31:34:16 ) is bigger than video duration.

Error Importing failed

What should i do i Try to compile it and scenarist freezes

if im correct all your files that you use in reauthoring (encoded or not) hsould be named .MPV ...so try renaming your .MPV.M2V to just .MPV and try again, maybe that helps.

[Eyes`Only]

Toolman2k: Wow that's very incorrect. Being a PAL person, you have no idea how to do an NTSC title it seems! *.MPV.M2V is the correct format.

We appreciate the will to help others, but please do not guess at things and only offer advice when you're 99%+ sure of your answer. You could really screw his troubleshooting procedures up and send him down hours of experimenting and testing for no good reason!

[toolman2k]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
Toolman2k: Wow that's very incorrect. Being a PAL person, you have no idea how to do an NTSC title it seems! *.MPV.M2V is the correct format.

We appreciate the will to help others, but please do not guess at things and only offer advice when you're 99%+ sure of your answer. You could really screw his troubleshooting procedures up and send him down hours of experimenting and testing for no good reason!

why the heck is that ? why does NTSC uses 2 extensions? i mean mpeg2=mpeg2 whether its PAL or NTSC.....so no need to use two extensions i think. or is that just the way dif4u+reauthorist works with NTSC titles ?

[Eyes`Only]

Pulldown. Get yerself an NTSC title if you want to become more familiar, or read a guide and don't skip the NTSC parts :D

In short: CCE makes a .mpv file. We run pulldown on that, creating a *.MPV.M2V file. Why do we choose that extension? We only have 2 choices.. MPV and M2V right? well the original video is already M2V, and the video we have to pulldown is MPV, so there go the options for single extension. Unless of course, we name the pulldown file <blahblah>-pulled.MPV or something. We just decided MPV.M2V fit the bill, and makes sense because it shows you what the original filename was too.

[aquabubble]

Originally posted by dssgorila
Warning This Video [ G:\MOVIES TO DO\Harry Potter 2\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.MPV.M2V ] has different duration.

Error The scene ( VTS_01_PGC_01, VTS01_vobid05_cellid19 ) timecode ( 02:31:34:16 ) is bigger than video duration.

Error Importing failed

What should i do i Try to compile it and scenarist freezes

Hmmm... this is an interesting one! If RA finds a scene in the IFO that is past the end of the movie, it should move it to 0.4 seconds before the end. Therefore, the only times when I would expect to see this error is if the mpv.m2v file doesn't exist or there was a problem with the encoding or pulldown steps.

Of course, I'm not ruling out a potential bug so please could you email me the ReAuthorist.SCP file and the ReAuthoristlog.txt to let me check? The email address is in the readme.txt

Ta

[influenza]

Well mentioning bugs:

WOuld it be a bug that reauthorist doesn't use wav files while reauthoring?

I have this title (concert) that has an uncompressed pcm (wav) file and a dts track. Using reauthorist the script created only contains the dts track.

(method used doitfast4u-> docc4u ->reauthorist)

[aquabubble]

@influenza - sorry to tell you that PCM audio is not currently supported by RA. You will have to manually add the WAV to Scenarist after importing the SCP for now I'm afraid.

[influenza]

It wasn't a big problem adding it manually. ge=reat tools make you lazy though :sly:

I just wanted to give some feedback.

So far your program works fine.

It would be great if there's vobid authoring support in the future. But on the other hand, my scenarist skills would drop very fast I guess:p

[dssgorila]

Aquabubble i sent you the scripts
Thanks

[Zainal]

I'd really appreciate being able to beta test this great program. I've been using the version, that someone posted could be found on MIRC. Anyways so far I've had any problems beyond what I've inflicted, but if something does pop up I'll make sure to tell ya about it.
Here's my email shymac@earthlink.net

[JoBob]

I'd like to get onto the beta list if possible or I would appreciate it if someone would send me the latest version.
Locke1402@aol.com

[EsT]

I would also like to give a try to this software..

email me : est_x@oninet.pt

[69Mws]

I have a little problem with new RA Beta and new DoCCE4U.

DoCCE4U names the outputfiles with ....mpv.m2v

When I press the Author Button in RA, the Script points to .mpv instead of mpv.m2v

Example:
- File created by DoCCE4U: VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.mpv.m2v

- Line from Script:
Item=Video
{
Place Holder=No
Comment=
Name=VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1
Resolution=PAL
Drop Type=Non-drop frame
Data Start Time=00:00:00;00
Data End Time=01:36:01;13
File=K:\super_troopers_demux\VTS01\VTS__01_P01.16~9_1.MPV

It doesn't matter whether I press the AuthorButton before encoding or afterwards. Tested it both ways.

Greetz
69Mws

[shoarthing]

Aquabubble - Hi - would be grateful for a beta.

Thanks


- shoarthing@operamail.com

[Eyes`Only]

Aquabubble:

I think you should start a "Post Here to Beg for ReAuthorist Beta" thread so ppl stop cluttering up this thread (though it is probably already too late, this thread is pretty much tainted now) :mad:

[VampHuntD]

Hey Aqua,
I'm glad to see this project in work. I hope it is going well. Currently I back up movies to the best of my ability but being able to do full backups would be awesome. From what I hear about this project it works great. Any chance that you could use another tester?

Feel free to email me if so at neo_guardian2@yahoo.com

Good luck in this project!

[1977]

Hi Aqua,

Reading about your tool makes me very anxious! I would love to be able to use/test it. Promise to tell you of any problems I stumble on to!

Any chance I can get a copy too?

(sorry to clutter up the forum, but there little to talk about a product I haven't been able to use before ;) )

Thanx in advance!

rpellicaan@yahoo.com

[dssgorila]

You people that want Reauthorist, havent searched for it if you read this whole thread you would know where to get it. EyesOnly is right this thread was supposed to be for troubleshooting. Search IRC and you find what your looking for :)

[VampHuntD]

sorry about that. I went on irc right after and found what I wanted, didn't think it would be there but I didn't notice how long ago this thread was started either..

[fourtyfour]

servus...

Hi Aquabubble:

Did you received my last 2 emails?

Bugreports for RA

[DVDHack]

Why not just post a beta somewhere? :o

[brashquido]

Because then it wouldn't be a beta now then would it :p

[DVDHack]

Now that's the Microsoft approach to life. Do you work for M$?

[brashquido]

If I worked for Micro$oft, I would've copied all the ideas/tools on this forum, called them DoItQuick4U, CCEDone4U and ReAuthor-it. Then sued everyone here for having products with similar names and function :p . So, no I don't work for Microsoft.

[Eyes`Only]

LOL! Good comeback, Brash!

[dssgorila]

lol

[EcchiNut]

Aquabubble I'd love a copy as well:

cybph@yahoo.com

[XCPU]

I am proud of that if I could get the Reauthorist beta, may I get one?

Thank you very much!! I am looking forward that moment...

xcpu@hotmail.com

[aquabubble]

Right!

Finally I've got 5 minutes where I can sort this thread out. I am closing this since it has now served its purpose. All information that people require should be in here. Apologies to all those that have requested the beta and are still waiting - due to time pressures I have not got around to adding you to any list yet. Since I now have plenty of very generous and helpful people, I have decided to no longer accept any more requests for beta testers. However, as a gesture of goodwill I will try to add all those that have given me the necessary details to my list.

Please please please no more begging! :)

I intend to move discussion to a new thread giving you an update of where RA is up to. You'll be pleased to hear that my final version is almost ready and a guide is soon to be made available.