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BlakIce
2nd March 2003, 00:10
is there anything i can do that will increase the processing speed in IC right now its hitting about 828kb/s, im using a P41.7 256k with 512mb of rdram, im building a new PC next week with a 2.53 P4 512k and 512mb of DDR memory, will i see a big increase there or should i start looking at faster HD's?

abatis
2nd March 2003, 05:18
I am runing an AMD XP2700 on an ASUS A7N8X-d board with 1G of samsung 3200 memory. I am running at 333FSB no overclock - however I will try that now that you brought this up. My machine is generally in the 1.2 -1.5 mb/s (Mistaken before as whatever 100% = 7.0 MB/s + range during processing.) I took a screen shot below.
I really don't know what 100% means - like 100% CPU or no reduction in vid stream? Confused.


http://www.xyzdns.com/~sered/driverimage.htm

:)

OsirisMedia01
2nd March 2003, 07:47
Hrmm not sure how fast mine runs
But im running

P4 2.43GHZ 512MB DDR
I think it usually runs between 5-8
In any event it usually runs just ahead of the movie
eg
120 min movie
usually done in
105 mins.

ZeroLimit
2nd March 2003, 08:45
sweet thats fast my Amd Athlon XP 1900+ is slow and only
256 PC2100 DDR Ram I need more ram =(

fusion007
2nd March 2003, 13:39
mmmm.... i have amd 1500+xp with 1.3gig 2100ddr(kingston) 2x80gig maxtors k7t msi board and mine did bourne identity region 2 in 2h10mins is this good average i dont know but it does me!

SteveV
2nd March 2003, 17:03
I get an average of 1mb/s with a XP2400+ 1024MB DDR333
2x80 Gb Maxtor 7200rpm drives.

MackemX
2nd March 2003, 17:53
Originally posted by abatis
I am runing an AMD XP2700 on an ASUS A7N8X-d board with 1G of samsung 3200 memory. I am running at 333FSB no overclock - however I will try that now that you brought this up. My machine is generally in the 7.0 MB/s + range during processing. I took a screen shot below.



http://www.xyzdns.com/~sered/driverimage.htm

:)

quite slow really when copying @ 100% :D

is mine any good?

is this fast? (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/fast.htm)

Oneiroxy
2nd March 2003, 18:21
MisterX how did you disable the preview?
There must be a way through registry!
I have been trying but with no luck

MackemX
2nd March 2003, 18:38
Originally posted by Oneiroxy
MisterX how did you disable the preview?
There must be a way through registry!
I have been trying but with no luck
The preview still shows but when you press ALT + Print screen it does not record the video pic, same goes for PowerDVD

I have noticed the view setting in the registry is set to standard, but as I don't know what the other option is I cannot change it (deluxe maybe)

I just wanted to show I don't believe anybody here can get 7Mb/s for processing unless @ 100% settings, cos if you set the slider to 100% its just shows the maximum speed your HD can copy data and mine is quite fast as I have it on seperate eide channels

realistically I have noticed mixed results, from as little as 800kb/s upto 1.7MB/s depending on the movie

maths to prove you 7MB/s+ guys above are using 100% settings

7GB of movie = 7168MB, so take IC running @ 7MB/s, that's 1024 seconds which is just over 17 minutes, so it's a shame people have to show false pics or run it at 100%

maybe it is true, prove me wrong but I don't believe it

because 7Gb of movie = 7168MB, IC running at say 1MB/s average is 7168 seconds which in turn is just under 2 hours, now thats believable :D

nice try guys, I was impressed for all of the time it took me to read the post, but @51.93MB/s even setting @100% will take some beating :D (don't use paintshop)

abatis
2nd March 2003, 21:14
I wouldn't even know how to make a false pic to show higher rates. I just took a couple of shots. It bounces all over the place. But I really never see less than about 1.3 MB/S. I am also running SATA RAID may not make a diff.

Also Mister X post is the menu read - very fast probably on most machines.

mrbass
2nd March 2003, 21:37
Yes setting the main movie to 100% I can get 20MB/sec it's doing nothing just copying the data over to .pdi. Usually though it flucuactes (man I can't spell) between 750KB/sec to 1.5MB/sec on a P4 2.53Ghz. I believe RAM over 256MB will not speed it up any.

MackemX
2nd March 2003, 21:43
so it must only take around 20 mins for an average film for you to process at that speed of 7MB/s claimed

what about DVD2One? that must take less than 5 minutes

I put the movie @ 100% I got THIS (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/fast.htm)

answer to an early question is that the preview does not show @ 100%

so how long does it take you for an average DVD?

yours may be fast but I doubt it maintains 7MB/s

even then it goes to show mine can maintain just under 18MB/s while writing, so it's not the HD slowing it down or else it would handle 7MB/s, so that has nothing to do with it and your processor & memory setup is a fraction faster than mine and I have the non SATA board like yours, so it can't be that either

It's mostly down to pure processing/memory speed as the HD can feed IC as much as it can handle, that's why it goes a little lower when it comes to a complex scene with high bit rate and little higher on the slower scenes. That's my theory :D

n.b. note only 6 minutes left with 4.31Gb to go :D, so like I said yours must be around 20mins for a DVD, maybe I shudda bought a SATA board back then but there were no HD's at the time :(, maybe time for an upgrade :)

please prove me wrong cos I will go buy the SATA mobo version and a couple of SATA HD's tomorrow if it is the case :)

abatis
3rd March 2003, 06:09
Hey I am a rookie - by 100% do you mean CPU usage or the trancode?

int 21h
3rd March 2003, 06:15
The transcode %.

abatis
3rd March 2003, 14:48
int

If you go to the screen shots I posted IC predicted a size of 4.31. I was going directly to disk - This has worked for me in the past. Anyway I ended up not burning as the file ended up at 5.62G. IC's burning program asked me if I wanted to remove files? I didn't do it, but I geusss I should of tried. The movie is Minority Report.

Anyway any prediction why I went over 4.31G?

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 15:03
Originally posted by abatis
Anyway any prediction why I went over 4.31G?
Is it the 2 Disc version you have?, seems strange that you went over by that much

What I have noticed with IC is that although the movie may resize ok, some of the actual extras Titles don't reduce by the relative % setting and some still maintain upto 99% of their original size no matter what you set them at!

The way to check this the original size against the actual resulting sizes is firstly to write down the original size & predicted size for each Title before running IC the 1st time. Extract the resulting PDI files, then open IC again but this time select the newly created IFO and check what size the file actually came out

This will then help you predict what to use in the 2nd run as you can see what affect each % has on each Title as they act differently due to their Video content

hope this helps

p.s. I see your speed has come down a bot now also, bit more believable at 1.71MB/s and 111 mins remaining :)

p.p.s. Do you have Excel as I have a spreadsheet knocked up where I input the Original Title Size/% settings/Predicted/Outcome and it shows the actual % reduction and what % of the predicted it is also. Take a couple of mins to fill in, but it's one big help when I run IC again as I know what to expect for each Title. I can upload it if you wanna try it

abatis
3rd March 2003, 16:58
I do have Excel and would appreciate the file.

I am just running a another video - GoldFinger(6G-Original Real Bond) on IC. I turned off the reg hack and noticed what I was missing in the previous blowups and high process speeds. I didn't think about it at the time but I wasn't getting the 5 video tests before it started the actual read. I will bet that this disk comes out OK.

Also - are you saying that you process through a pid file more than once to keep reducing down?

MackemX
3rd March 2003, 23:26
Originally posted by abatis
I do have Excel and would appreciate the file.

I am just running a another video - GoldFinger(6G-Original Real Bond) on IC. I turned off the reg hack and noticed what I was missing in the previous blowups and high process speeds. I didn't think about it at the time but I wasn't getting the 5 video tests before it started the actual read. I will bet that this disk comes out OK.

Also - are you saying that you process through a pid file more than once to keep reducing down?
If I get a file of say 4.40Gb, I look at my excel info and see where I can remove 0.3GB. I extract PDI files straight away using PDITOOL

normally this 30-39MB (0.3Gb) can be removed from an extra of say 300MB, so all I do is refer to the figures from the first run

so say Title 5, original size 300MB set @65% came out at 190MB (actually 63.66%), Excel would show I need a setting of around 54.45% to reduce this to 160MB, this inlcudes IC's margin of error regarding this Title as 160/300 is actually 53.33%

So I select only the menu @100% and only the Title I want to reduce at 54% just to be safe. IC processes this in less than 5 minutes. Extract the resulting VOB and insert into 1st run and run ifoupdate. Sorted :)

it's all in the guide HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/2big.htm)

HERE (http://www.deano.dsl.pipex.com/recorder.zip) is the Excel file