next step after cce guide converting avi2dvd

[videocheez]

I followed the guide using cce to convert avi to dvd. I selected spruceup as an authoring program, when I try to import my *.mpv file into spruceup it says invalid frame rate. I have inserted my cce encoding log. Please take a look and see if something went wrong. also do you suggest another authoring program that will not give me the same error.

CCE Log FILE
biCompression = DIV3
fccHandler = div3
trying yuy2.
YUY2 format was not accepted.
trying bitcount = 32.
cce created.
encoder initialized.
encoding started at 2003/02/23 22:10:38.
>> received encoding start notification
>> received encoding stop notification
encoding stopped at 2003/02/23 23:05:40.
sync stopped.
fdev0 closed.
fdev1 closed.
>>>> Performance <<<<
Source : 10640.046 seconds (255106 frames)
Elapsed: 3303.359 seconds
---------------------------------------------------
>> File reading 346.227 10.481 %
>> Decoding 919.328 27.830 %
>> RGB -> YUY2 304.341 9.213 %
---------------------------------------------------
>> MPEG encoding 1733.462 52.476 %
uncompressed 32-bit bitmap.
cce created.
encoder initialized.
encoding started at 2003/02/23 23:05:51.
>> received encoding start notification
>> received encoding stop notification
encoding stopped at 2003/02/24 01:15:31.
sync stopped.
fdev0 closed.
fdev1 closed.
>>>> Performance <<<<
Source : 10640.046 seconds (255106 frames)
Elapsed: 7781.625 seconds
---------------------------------------------------
>> File reading 4388.615 56.397 %
>> Decoding 0.000 0.000 %
>> RGB -> YUY2 581.163 7.468 %
---------------------------------------------------
>> MPEG encoding 2811.847 36.134 %


thanks in advance,

VC

[rui]

Well, you hve a divx3 movie, right?
I am going to assume that you have a divx3 "LEGAL" AVI.

After this, are you loading the avi directly into CCE, or using a avisynth script?

Because it seems to me that your avi ins't in YUY2 colour format, so CCE couldn't handle the avi correctly. But on the other hand, you shouldn't have any mpv file to start for, because CCE should give you an error right in the start. But you have a mpv file, so maybe ins't this :confused:

Maybe if you use avisynth, and put in a line saying ConvertToYUY2(),
and see what happens.
Also, i normally use Spruce Maestro, it never gave my any problems.

[videocheez]

Thanks for your reply I will try your suggestion about using Spruce Maestro, I havent found any instructions on how to use avisynth with CCE. Can you please refer me to a guide that maybe able to help.

Thanks in advance,
VC

[vmn3k]

I am also experiencing a similar problem with SpruceUp. I ripped a dvd with DVD Decrypter, then produced an AVI using DVD2AVI and finally encode with TMPGEnc (MPEG-2 720x480 23.976fps CQ 80, Layer-2 48000Hz 224kbps). When trying to import the asset to SpruceUp it fails with "invalid frame rate".

Any idea? Thanks.

[ultimatebilly]

You have to apply pulldown to your m2v, using pulldown exe...
This way flags are added to the stream, which tell the player to do a 3:2 pulldown, that means converting the 23.976 to 29.97->NTSC-compliant...
Download pulldown.exe, and use this:

pulldown inputfile outputfile -framerate 29.97 -drop_frame true

Drop frame true means that the framerate isn't brought to 30.00, so your video and audio should stay in sync...
Make sure to set the drop-frame parameter for the audio as well, if your authoring solution supports this...
I think Spruceup does this automatically, but I'm not sure of it, because I live in a PAL-country and don't use spruceup anyway...

[vmn3k]

Thanks for the quick response, ultimatebilly!! That solved the issue.
However I noticed that after producing the new m2v file with pulldown when I import the video stream to SpruceUp, the mp2 audio stream is not automatically imported (both have the same filename). I had to multiplex both streams with TMPGEnc and then import.
Not sure if SpruceUp actually takes care of the drop_frame parameter and since I am multiplexing into one single stream, would that cause any sync issue? At first look I could not really tell, but would like to be sure...

Thanks again
vmn3k

[ultimatebilly]

I'm also not sure...
But you should be able to tell if video and audio is in sync by looking at a scene in the end of the track, because if there is a sync-issue, it will gradually get worse by the time...
You are able to import a mpg into Spruceup? Thats new to me...
Could maybe somebody with more experience with Spruceup tell how it handles Audio?

[vmn3k]

After further testing I noticed that, yes, there is a sync issue when merging the modified (23.97fps -> 29.97fps) video stream with the original mp2 audio stream (I guess that makes sense).

I tried to convert the frame rate for the audio stream to 29.97fps using BeSweet but the converted audio sounds like twice the normal speed. Not sure if that is expected or there is some setting in BeSweet that prevents that. Besides for some reason TMPGEnc does not like the mp2 produced by BeSweet (it complains about the file format).

It is wierd, though, that SpruceUp would import some of the mixed (converted 29.97fps video + original 23.97fps audio) mpg files but for others would complain regarding the audio out-of-sync problem. Don't know why it liked some and not others.

As you said, maybe someone more experienced with frame rate conversion and SpruceUp would give more insight. BTW, is there a tool to convert frame rate to a mpeg2 system file (video+audio) instead of dealing with each stream individually?

Thanks
vmn3k

[digitalman]

Make sure that when you are running the movie in DVD2AVI at Force Film, that the movie is true film. It usually is if DVD2AVI is showing Film 95% or higher. If it is not you may want to disable Force Film, cause it may be 29.97. This is not a set standard as some DVDs are tricky and are both film and interlaced video mixed. Like the starting intros, credits, and cut scenes may be 29.97 interlaced, but the rest of the movie is 23.976 film.