Multiple IFOs

[leozak]

Culprit: Cowboy Bebop DVD Volume 1

Hello,

I've been able to copy dvds in the past with success.. but I've stumbled upon what seems to be the most challenging of them all.. Most of the instructions out there deal with 2 ifo files.

This one is one mean dvd and is made up of 21 or different IFO files.

I've looked at the DVD and found the 5 different VOBs that contain the main movie file:

VTS_03, VTS_04, VTS_11, VTS_12 and VTS_13.

I've done:

- copying the movie vobs to a separate directory
- rebuilt the IFO files from the vobs
- edited the language option in both IFOs
- 'get vts sectors'

However, It was NOT successful as PowerDVD was able to play the movie if I watch it as one continous one, but the minute I jump to a scene, it loses it's place and seems to jump all over the place and eventually crash.

I was curious as to how this DVD can be handled.. i was also curious as to whether or not it would work if I copied all the files, rempeg the vobs then to remux them back in.

Anyone have suggestions?

[coona]

Hello leozak,

could you be more precise? What does it mean "Most of the instructions out there deal with 2 ifo files". Do you re-encode your vobs or only strip some parts out??? Can you describe your process step by step???

[leozak]

Hi,

I hope this will explain things more clearly... typically in a DVD movie, there are two ifo files.. a VIDEO_TS.ifo and a VTS_0X_X.ifo which typically points to the movie vobs..

with Cowboy bebop.. instead of just 1 VTS_0X_X.ifo file that controls all the movie vobs, it has 5 separate ones that control an episode ea (total of 5 episodes).

The instructions out there only deal with 1 VIDEO_TS.ifo and 1 VTS_0X_X.ifo since movies only have these two files.. but for a series which is broken down into separate episodes, it may not be one long running "movie".

What I'm trying to go is to either:

A) Merge all the VTS ifos together so that it will rip all the appropriate vobs and make it into one long movie.. essentially making it as though it were one long movie..

OR

B) Rempeg'ing the vobs so that it will all fit under 1 "4.7" DVD..
with all files.

What I've done so far is taken all the vobs that contain the episodes and rebuilt the IFO files using the 'create ifo' feature of IFOedit.. it works if I watched the anime as one long movie without interruptions, but when I try to jump a scene, it messes up and eventually freezes in my software player..

I hope this helps in getting some answers =)

[leozak]

my step by step process is:

1) using DVDDecrypter to rip all the files off the DVD

2) move the vobs that contain the episodes into a separate directory

3) renamed all the vobs so that they will fool ifoedit into thinking it was one long series of vobs (ie. vts_01_1.vob, vts_01_2.vob, vts_01_3.vob, vts_01_4.vob, etc..)

4) create ifo in IFOedit

5) change the language settings in the audio for the VTS_0X_X.ifo and VIDEO_TS.ifo

6) get vts_sectors.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by leozak
Culprit: Cowboy Bebop DVD Volume 1

Hello,

I've been able to copy dvds in the past with success.. but I've stumbled upon what seems to be the most challenging of them all.. Most of the instructions out there deal with 2 ifo files.

This one is one mean dvd and is made up of 21 or different IFO files.

I've looked at the DVD and found the 5 different VOBs that contain the main movie file:

VTS_03, VTS_04, VTS_11, VTS_12 and VTS_13.

I've done:

- copying the movie vobs to a separate directory
- rebuilt the IFO files from the vobs
- edited the language option in both IFOs
- 'get vts sectors'

However, It was NOT successful as PowerDVD was able to play the movie if I watch it as one continous one, but the minute I jump to a scene, it loses it's place and seems to jump all over the place and eventually crash.

I was curious as to how this DVD can be handled.. i was also curious as to whether or not it would work if I copied all the files, rempeg the vobs then to remux them back in.

Anyone have suggestions?

What you have is a non-stranded DVD. That is you have episodes in different titlesets. Read this thread and see if it helps for you. Most people find DVD2One is better than ReMPEG. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46338

[TRILIGHT]

First of all, this post is not an "advanced authoring" question but since you're new, you may not be aware of this. 2COOL seems confused also by calling it a "non-standard" DVD. It's nothing of the sort. If any DVD's could be considered "non-standard" it would be the strange authoring/result on Warner Brothers DVD's. Nothing is strange about having multiple VTS sets.

Your problem, leozak is that you are incorrectly thinking about IFO files and your DVD structure. There can be MANY IFO files (there is always one per VTS set). The guides do address this. In fact, my UberGuide instructs you to do each VTS set and update each IFO accordingly. However, it sounds as if you are only interested in using IFOedit for "authoring". IFOedit is nothing more than a tool. It is not true authoring software so your results will be inconsistent. At any rate, since your question strictly deals with IFOedit, I am moving your thread to the IFOedit forum.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by TRILIGHT
[B]2COOL seems confused also by calling it a "non-standard" DVD. [B]

@Trilight

I didn't call it "non-standard". I referred to it as "non-stranded". I am not confused and I didn't make it up as I got it from a reply on my thread in the DVD2One forum from rishardc. I assumed this is the terminalogy that most people used. He had a guide on doing multi-PGC DVDS. Here's the link he gave.

http://www.dvd2dvdr.com/Episode_Guide.htm

[TRILIGHT]

I see. It must be phrases he coined himself or heard incorrectly from someone else. There are no such things as "stranded" or "non-stranded" DVD's. In fact, the terminology is not used in reference to any DVD technology. I didn't read all of his pages but at first glance, he seems to be referring to multiple vs. single Video Title Set (VTS) discs. Multiple VTS's are nothing new and are not handled any differently than a single. You just do the same thing more than once. Granted, that is when faithfully recreating the original DVD structure which does not appear to be what he does.

I would certainly be wary of anyone writing "guides" who do not even know the proper terminology to use in describing what they see. It's precisely this sort of misinformation that exacerbates the problem of newcomers being confused about things. I'm not knocking you necessarily but, if I were you, I would think twice before following the advice of someone who does not even understand the fundamentals of what it is they are trying to "teach" others to do.