View Full Version : Seamless transition from PGC
kitchy
14th February 2003, 07:25
Hi!
I have a meu, which I have reencoded, and are now putting back together. But one problem occured to me.
There's one vob file for the intro for the menu, and another for the main menu, in the original these two go together perfectly, there's no a slightest hint of a pause when it shifts to main menu. In my authored version, I can't get this transition to work properly. Is there any settings which could make for a seamless transition between the two PGC's? If not, I could probably put these 2 files in 1 and add them as one PGC, and set buttons and stuff to after the intro, but there should be a way to make a transition betweek PGC's seamless. Any ideas?
Kitchy
Zeul
14th February 2003, 17:20
when authoring in scenarist are you setting the pgc to seamless?
mpucoder
15th February 2003, 06:28
How was it done in the original? As 2 PGC's? As far as I have been told linking from PGC to PGC is not seamless. What might help is to make sure the video objects are adjacent to minimize head movement, but the player will still have to load the next PGC from the ifo file (they retain only one in memory).
kitchy
15th February 2003, 11:32
When ripped by cells or vob id I come out with 2 video files, one for the menu intro, and one for the main menu, so I'm guessing the original is 2 PGC's....
TRILIGHT
16th February 2003, 22:30
2 VOBID's are not necessarily indicative of two PGC's. They are two entirely different things. For instance, in my "Insomnia Notes" guide, the movie is made up of VOBID's 2 and 3. Since the two parts are adjacent to one another, I was able to go in and set the flag to "seamlessly" (please see the bottom part of the "Insomnia Notes" for how to do this). Scenarist will not always let you set things seamlessly though. You certainly won't be able to set anything seamlessly between one PGC and another.
Now, this all being said... Why are you bothering with trying to recreate the menu system when you don't even have to? This is the second post by a "newbie" (no offense intended) stating that they are recreating the menus. There are far more reliable and easier methods than this. Are you certain this is what you want to do? If so, I really have to ask... why?
kitchy
16th February 2003, 23:45
I found out how to do it...
I merget the two files (both video and audio), and set the buttons to start when the first part was done, and also managed to set a GPRM check, so it would jump to second part (from another menu) if the first part allready had been played...worked great..:)
As to the second part, why I do it, it's actually cause I was interested in seeing how things worked. I'm doing it because I wanna learn how to do it, how things are built up, cause I have a lot of time on my hand. Now I'm quite fascinated by it, and want to do some research as to if there's a possible career for me in this....I'm sick and tired of my current job (Computer support and management), and wanna do something new, this is what I would love doing. Originally I just wanted to see if it was difficult to do, and yes it's really hard, but I pulled it off, the menu function almost exactly like the original (I have pulled some stuff out though, to get the menu down in size, and reencoded the animated parts of it).
Kitchy
kitchy
16th February 2003, 23:50
Another thing, even though my nick state that I'm a Junior Member, I'm not a newbie, only a newbie for creating Menus. I've had problems with registering, and therefore never been able to post here, but have used it as a great source for answers to my many questions.
Many people has said to me not to reauthor menus, but I wanted to, so that's that.
TRILIGHT
16th February 2003, 23:54
I do not imagine that what you did is truly "seamless" though. There will be a pause when the registers are checked. I'm not saying that what you did is wrong. Hell, what is "right" is whatever you think works well for you. I just wanted to make a note for others who may read this thread looking for "seamless" information, you cannot create a truly seamless transition between PGC's by using the command structure. There will be a slight pause as the registers are checked and the commands are executed.
mpucoder
17th February 2003, 05:06
In fact anytime you add a command, such as between cells, it makes it non-seamless. The reaction varies by player, but by definition, it is not seamless.
kitchy
17th February 2003, 09:27
Actually, one thing I forgot to mention here: I had 2 video and 2 audio files, which I merged together. Now when I had the track, I created a new scene when the second part was to start. This way I could add a GPRM check on the PRE of the whole track, to see if the disc had been accessed before, if it had, the check jumped to scene 2, which skips the the first part of the track. Bit eitherway, it works as it's supposed to, so I'm a happy pappy..:)
Kitchy
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